Feedback Weighs In On Used Games

Posted: April 18, 2012
Feedback Weighs In On Used Games
Blair Herter and the Feedback crew discuss used game sales. Publishers would have you believe used game sales are hurting the industry, but retailers like GameStop disagree. Where do you stand on the issue?

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  • Namzor

    Question to the everyone here: If the the current and new generation of consoles incorporated something like Steam Sales and game trading/gifting, how many of you would stop buying new and/or used physical copies and just go straight DD?

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:51 PM
  • hoof_hearted4

    Borderlands 2 is my most anticipated game of the year. and they are doing it right. tons of DLC and support. listening to their fans when making Borderlands 2. pumped for the game and will always lookg out for any other Gearbox game because of it.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:45 PM
  • 1narutomaster

    1 thing I really haven't seen anyone mention is the fact that old games would be impossible to find eventually. That would be an extreme waste of talent. I would predict it wouldn't give any bonus at all, the people who can't afford it would just be cut out of the market completely.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:44 PM
  • 1narutomaster

    1 thing I really haven't seen anyone mention is the fact that old games would be impossible to find eventually. That would be an extreme waste of talent. I would predict it wouldn't give any bonus at all, the people who can't afford it would just be cut out of the market completely.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:43 PM
  • psboomjr

    There isn't going to be any new consoles this year, because of the fact that all these new games are already being made for current consoles; also what's there to upgrade to?
    EX: Halo 4 is probably the biggest gaming announcement for the 360 and it would be idiotic to have a new Xbox when one of their biggest titles is around the holidays on the older system; Plus the Kinect is still new and has never reached its full potential. Maybe when there is a smaller amount of games being made in a year then that would give better hints for a new system. Like the Wii U I haven't heard of any new big Nintendo titles in a while, because of the new system.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:43 PM
  • hoof_hearted4

    multiplayer ruins games. every game now has to have multiplayer. and in some cases it ruins the single player. if anything, make the multiplayer separate. where its like a DLC or something. so i dont have to pay for half the game im never gunna use. and as a PS3 owner who tried to platinum games, i hate games with multiplayer trophies. cause i dont usually go on multiplayer except coop. and if i buy a game much later when the MP is dead, those are trophies i cant get. and its annoying. on top of that, i believe MP should focus more on COOP, and less on competitive dick measuring stuff.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:36 PM
  • Sinlovesmusic

    Just throwing it out there, but the camera guy looks like the janitor from New Girl!

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:25 PM
  • carlos0981

    I really am afraid of digital distribution. The laws on DD (digital distribution) and the consumer protection laws are so varied and inconsistent that the thought that every single hardware maker, publisher and developer would have their own outlet, and their own set of rules as to how many times you can download something and on how many different platforms, it just scares the crap out of me.

    I'm not sure if I trust Microsoft, Sony, EA, Bethesda, 2K among others, enough to not be scared that they will royally screw me the first chance they get after we go full blown DD. I mean I trust STEAM and Valve, but that trust has been built over years and years of great service, while the companies I named above among others, have eroded my trust in them over years and years of the crappiest service possible.

    Plus I like physical media, and no I am not a super old guy, I am barely 30, and I like physical media. I like the way all of my games are neatly organized in a rack (in alphabetical order and by console in alphabetical order, I know I have OCD). I like lending my friends games and I like borrowing games from them, it is something I have done since I was little and would like to keep doing, and teach my son to do, to share.

    I think that the majority of people are kind of on my side here, at least everyone I know and work with, I don't think that physical media is going away ever, I mean sure DD will eventually become the primary way to acquire something, but physical media will remain even then, At least I hope so.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:21 PM
  • neonscorpion

    Gah. Why does she keep saying that Bioware said you have to play multiplayer to get the best ending of ME3. They specifically said you did NOT have to play multiplayer to get the best ending. They said it would be easier to get if you played multiplayer. I know people who played no multiplayer at all, and still got the best ending.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:18 PM

    It's damaging to gamers when they buy a used copy at Gamespot that is 5 dollars less than new. And then they have to buy an online pass. The consumer winds up spending more on the used game than just buying new! So the publisher & developer lose a sale because Gamestop will reduce the amount of inventory they order. The consumer saves nothing in this case. Only Gamestop comes out ahead.

    However, when the game is 50% or greater, it's attracting customers that are not wanting to pay 54.99 (example of Gamestop's "used" price on recent releases). In this case, the gamer comes out ahead because the cost of the disc plus the online pass / DLC is still a savings. And odds are the publisher is no longer shipping new inventory of the older titles. So the publisher gets some money from online pass / DLC, Gamestop gets their cut, and the gamer still gets a good deal on the disc, with the option to sell off the disc.

    So I would say that used games are damaging to a degree to current skus, but not damaging for titles that are out of print.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:09 PM
  • gamerjes

    Change is painful, even moreso when you try to resist a clearly unavoidable change.

    As mentioned in Feedback, publishers seem to have stopped adjusting to the changing gaming market with the Online Pass concept. They don't seem to be doing anymore and what they have done is not enough. They will suffer, in reputation and profits, until they stop dragging their feet, accept what is happening cannot be stopped, and seriously adjust to the new model.

    The fault is not with gamers, or even GameStop (and other used game sellers). The fault is with publishers/developers. They have failed to change with, and embrace, the new tools at their deposal and the customers are suffering for it.

    Publishers/Developers: Embrace the Internet, use Twitter for easy communication, and start using digital distribution now... with quality service and respectable incentives (see Steam's reputation verses Origin's "quality service"). Every financial quarter that passes that you drag your feet, you lose profit and further distance yourself from your customer base.

    Gamestop has shown the cracks in the foundation. Let the cracks widen or build a better foundation, it is in publisher's/developer's... not ours.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:56 PM
  • Shaneisclassy

    Gamestop is where its at, sometime people can't afford to buy new games. So we trade the old once in to get the new games. Sometimes people need to think about the people buying the game instead of actually who's resale them. I honestly think it should stay the same way. But for the instant download, I'm so for it. Because it would change the industry .

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:55 PM
  • Buckeyes67890

    Gamefly gives you a 2 day trial code. Thats it.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:53 PM
  • bobthebaptist

    I say no. While I understand publishers whish they could get every cent the can, It's just not possible. I never understood why selling a used car, book, house, piece of clothing, etc. would be any different.

    I don't think they ever take into consideration that maybe, just maybe some people depend on used game sales to fund towards other games. Get rid of it, go into online only and I can guarantee you will lose a lot of customers. Not everyone has fast internet or unlimited bandwidth(like me). 50GB would let you off with about two AAA games per month, not much. For the most part, DRM also affects the customers more than Pirates. People are able to crack games within days now. Oftentimes with better overall packages than what the publisher offers as well.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:52 PM
  • Kalish87

    i rely on used games i dont have the money to buy all the new games every year. i can maybe buy 1 or 2 new games a year so i have to wait till prices drop

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:45 PM
  • Reciprocity

    I completely disagree with Nicole. The PS3 has at least 3 years left in it's lifespan, and the 360 has at least 2 more, before a replacement needs to be announced. If you think you are hitting the max that these consoles have to offer, you haven't been paying attention to the hardware specs.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:45 PM
  • FrenchCorsair

    I agree with the panel - digitally distributed games need to see a price drop. The vast majority of them are priced to match their retail counterparts, with publishers justifying the cost by saying that while selling digitally saves them money, it makes it more convenient for the consumer. There s no way that those two factors balance each other out. Games on XBL, PSN, Origin, etc. need to get their prices slashed. Even on Steam, while it has some kick-ass sales from time to time, a brand-new game will still fetch you $59.99 plus tax.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:44 PM
  • Germaximus

    Awesome discussion.

    Have you guys played on OnLive yet? its uber! if your internet doesnt suck.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:41 PM
  • alexdelangel13

    Well actually if Microsoft goes all out next gen and somehow stops used game useage on its console. Then it'd actually be pretty damn beneficial for Sony to include the usage of used games on its console. That would surely increase it's console sales quite a bit. Or Vice Versa.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:39 PM
  • evilrobot123

    I almost always buy used games ... helps with a gamer that's on a budget and the game gets more time played and is not wasting time sitting on a shelf!

    Posted: April 18, 2012 1:39 PM