Feedback Weighs In On Used Games

Posted: April 18, 2012
Feedback Weighs In On Used Games
Blair Herter and the Feedback crew discuss used game sales. Publishers would have you believe used game sales are hurting the industry, but retailers like GameStop disagree. Where do you stand on the issue?

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  • IamChromeScorpion

    What would happen if you went to buy a used car and the maker of the car said oh by the way, if you want to drive on the freeway, you have to pay us a couple of thousand dollars more!!! That would not go over very well. If i buy a new chevy truck or toyota prius, or what ever, those manufacturers loose the right to tell me what to with that new vehicle. If you sell me a game new, you loose ownership of that game!!! Granted i don't have the right to copy it (hence copy-writing) and sell them. But if i want to take that game to a friend's house and play it, i should NOT have to pay for an online pass to do so! I love having a physical copy of game, because I'm a collector, i normally keep what i buy. But now it's not just about the online pass. Some games, or should i say a lot of games now cannot be played without an Internet connection. What happens when those servers are shut down ? Is my disc of one of my favorite games useless? Yes, unless they create a patch for it before they shut it down. Publishers- I buy a lot of games new, pre-order if i reallllly want it, download them when they first come out. I along with hundreds of thousands of others spend milloins each year on NEW games!!!! Don't tell us what to do with them! You can only kick a dog so many times, before he stops coming home. That goes for YOU EA, or we will find a new home. Gamestop keep up the good work !!!!

    Posted: April 18, 2012 5:28 PM
  • Gretien

    I've always and I mean ALWAYS bought used games. Not everyone can afford $60 for a new game. If used games are banned then I'm done with gaming.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 5:27 PM

    gaming companies have become less about making a enjoyable game experience and making games for the passion and love of making them, to just all about making money whether its popping out non refined sequels every 12 months for $60 or putting out dlc like outfits and parts of games that should already be in the game

    Posted: April 18, 2012 5:20 PM
  • Warlock_Arcana

    I'm sorry, publishers, but until you can guarantee to me 1frickin00% that your games won't suck (I'M looking at you, TEAM Ninja! EA too!), don't talk to me about not selling pre-owned! I've supported the new game industry long enough, and been burned by games like Ninja Gaiden 3, and even Syndicate. Most of the "hit" games this year have been flops. So I really don't blame people for wanting to save on these games. Now, don't blame GameStop either. Most people still want new games. But there are enough that still want preowned. So, make some actual awesome games, and I'm sure people will flock en masse to pre-order the gems... like Borderlands and Mass Effect... just careful how you end those games. :P

    Posted: April 18, 2012 5:00 PM
  • TranceMuse5

    Unless developers find a new way to lower retail prices for games, it's just gonna get worse. I try to support when I can but I can't support them all the time.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 4:37 PM
  • nimrod75

    Digital Distribution has to have a rental model in order for people to play multiple games. I will not buy 5 $60 games a year. I will pay $25 a month for access to the library of games that my system supports even though it s the same cost as buying 5 games. I normally play about 10 games a year through Game Fly. I only finish about 5 games a year because something new is coming out or I don t like the game I m playing. I would go back and finish a couple of games that I sent back early if it was available to download or stream at no additional cost. This concept is similar to finishing a series on Netflix that you start to watch and pick up later. I believe this would also help the games that get released against the juggernauts. The pay model would be: Sony/ Microsoft records the downloads/playtime per account and pays the developer that amount. If I play 30 hrs of Skyrim this month, Bethesda gets $15 from Sony. My kids play 10 hours of Ratchet and Clank, Insomniac gets $6 and the rest is spread out over the other titles/developers I decided to tryout. Spread out the $25 to the games that are played the most. Game developers would be like actors getting residual checks for rearing old TV series. The game developers would have an incentive to produce new content to keep the audience level high. Not to mention I would be playing a lot of games I would not have tried.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 4:30 PM
  • animeandmangarule

    Not really sure that Apple making a game console would sell as good as they think. i have nothing from Apple and i know a lot of people who don't use anything from Apple including the I-phone or I-pod... i rthink Apple should just stick with what ever there doing now, ...(whatever it is, i don't follow them much) And leave the gaming to the Professionals at Sony and.. the other guys too, i guess

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:50 PM
  • RustyNailFromHell

    I don't see the music and the movie industry complaining about used CD's and DVD's sales. The gaming industry is becoming greedy, and if it reaches to that point. I may just give up gaming.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:49 PM
  • KLCT00

    Potential loss of possession I dont think a strictly digital distri. would work just because of whats needed for quality downloads and the ability to play. As far as used games its extremely comforting to know after I finish my favorite or most disliked game I can A. trade/sell it for something different and B. after I finish this or that new game to be able to go and buy it back at a reduced price. How many people realistically will pay full price(even if its just a $15 difference) for a game they already finished even if they enjoyed as much as possible?

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:46 PM
  • Jacan

    Hmmm, Blair needs to work on his script a bit more, he clearly cant just wing it.

    But poor episode this time and also why should games be a special thing where people dont or should sell and buy used games? Its like movies, music and tons of other small things, once people have paid the first sum its there to keep and with what they want.

    I can understand that they just give one online pass for each game, but the way PS4 and Xbox720 might go down is dead wrong.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:35 PM
  • iGuy

    This is just another money grab. Just because retailers are making money off used games does not mean that the publishers are "losing" money. If I end up keeping a game that will only collect dust in my collection, the publisher isn't making a single dime off of that copy. But if I trade it in for some credit or cash then someone else might buy it, like it, and buy the sequal at full price.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:34 PM
  • Malapropism

    'the end of a console cycle is when the biggest games come out' WHAT?!
    because yeah, totally the best games came out for xbox1 and ps2 at the end... not

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:34 PM
  • Energy_Vampire1974

    I am so sick of hearing these companies and corporations whining about not making enough money.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:32 PM
  • Xilar

    First off I hope that Valve doesn't work with Apple, Valve making a console would be awesome but I refuse having an Apple product in my home. I personally think if games go all digital I would expect to see the price of new games drop. They wouldn't be designing games onto discs and seeing as that was the reason for increase in pricing with the PS3 and 360 I don't see a reason to keep games the same price. As for buying a game off line compared to online I buy off line because I like to have a physical copy, I like the disc and the case and that 3 page instruction book I never read, just because it feels more complete and with digital games right now being the same price I really dont see why I'd waste space on my console to have less product.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:24 PM
  • Bloodthr0e

    Games cost less money to make than Hollywood movies. Does it makes sense that a consumer has to spend more money on a new video game than a new movie?

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:24 PM
  • Malapropism

    'the end of a console cycle is when the biggest games come out' WHAT?!
    because yeah, totally the best games came out for xbox1 and ps2 at the end... not

    Posted: April 18, 2012 3:01 PM
  • ZoMbIEx23x

    Paused video to say that Bioware actually said that you do not have to play multiplayer to get the best ending. And that was a fabrication of the truth as we all know by now. It was the fans who revealed that you in fact had to play multi-player to get the best ending.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:56 PM
  • RoyaltyGamer

    To answer the question about Gamefly & online passes. If you rent a game for ex. Mass Effect 3 from Gamefly you have to buy a Online Pass from EA. I know this because I had to watched my best friend pay extra for a online pass on top of his Gamefly subscription. He was not happy to say the least.

    I really find the industry sending us the consumers a very mixed message. I've been attending PAX Prime & East for the past 3 years and have witness Gamestop having a bigger presence every year. For example at PAX East '12 to receive swag from Assassin's Creed 3(UBISOFT) you had to pre-order the game from Gamestop. Also Ubisoft & Gamestop had these massive signs showing off pre-order bonuses & Gamestops rewards logo. Now if you asked the booth attendant if you could order from Amazon they would have told you no. I know this because I tried. I do have a account with Gamestop.com but I find Amazon.com is much faster & easier when it comes to placing a order. If game publishers dislike Gamestop as much as it is coming off to us why don't they stop giving them such a presence. Give more pre-order exclusives to Amazon or the other big company's that don't sell used games. Ask gamers to pre-order from Amazon for free swag at PAX. Have other major companys (ex. Amazon,Target,Best Buy) do more commercials advertising your game not just Gamestop. Assassin's Creed & Ubisoft are not the only ones guilty of doing this at PAX but it was my most recent example. I have seen this being done more & more often. It worries me to think where we will be if this continues.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:56 PM
  • swisheropp

    Concerning digital distribution, I'm old school when it comes to my music and video games, I need a hard copy of it. I don't trust a hard drive or a cloud to hold something I pay my hard earned money for. Plus, when buying digital and having problems with that digital purchase I have found it to be very annoying and troubling to correct anything bad that has happened. I would much rather be able to go to a store and speak to an actual person instead of having to send an email to a generic email address.

    Concerning used games, I work at a video game store, when a customer is purchasing a used game with an online pass the employee is then prompted to advise the customer. They can buy it then or not. This has been going on before the lawsuit was settled last week. But I do agree with you that there is a slight discrepancy in price for used games compared to new games but not too much. Maybe the price of the online pass, instead of $5 make it $10-12 less than new. But I feel that used games are keeping the video game industry honest about their prices in general. I feel that as soon as they are able to make used games obsolete the prices for games could increase because they have no competition.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:56 PM
  • Joeful

    I agree that if video gaming goes completely digital, pricing should be adjusted. $60.00 for a digital copy of a game is unacceptable. I like being able to physically own my console games. When it comes to PC, I don't mind digital as much. I really like Steam but I hate that EA tried to duplicate a service like Steam for their own titles. I actually decided
    against BF3 for my PC because numerous negative reviews of Origin.

    Posted: April 18, 2012 2:53 PM