Feedback: Medal of Honor Warfighter, SimCity & Mass Effect 3

Posted: March 14, 2012
Feedback: Medal of Honor Warfighter, SimCity & Mass Effect 3
Blair Herter and the Feedback crew discuss GDC 2012's big announcements like Medal of Honor Warfighter and SimCity. Find out what the panel really thinks about Mass Effect 3's Day One DLC.

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  • glenboy24

    I can't help wish they would have a full episode on the Mass Effect controversy. Blair and the panelists, while keeping things light, often have really intelligent, insightful views on matters both positive and negative.

    However, in this instance, while I can understand the difficult position this discussion would put Blair in (given that his wife is a part of the game via a character) I still think he could participate without compromising the somewhat unbiased position he has to attempt to maintain as Host. Not that he's *always* unbiased, but that's just when he really loves something, which I understand.

    Still, I would really like to see them address the pros and cons of both sides, the reaction in the gaming media, the #RetakeME3 movement raising over 50k dollars in charity for Child's Play as a sign of solidarity, Future ramification on the gaming development industry, and so on.

    Right now there's so much being lost in the shuffle, and so many facts and views getting twisted, I think Feedback would be the perfect place to clear some things up and get some smart opinions out there. Somehow though...I don't see this happening.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 4:05 PM
  • ((GLADOS))

    I reeeely hope that Simcity 5 doesn't do micro transactions on a lot of DLC. It would make it too much like a social game and that's what I hope it doesn't become.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 2:39 PM
  • Slacker_RB

    From what I know about coding, which isn't a whole lot, I do know that when coding parts of the game, if certain parts of a game are not complete at the time that the game need to be done to make production and shipping deadlines, it is often more efficient to merely disable the incomplete code than to remove it completely. This might explain the existence if code for Javik on the disk for Mass Effect 3.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 2:29 PM
  • BrenLeahey

    Jake looks so much like Cliff Bleszinski in this episode. It's freaking weird.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 1:47 PM
  • VietnamBob2473

    Quality and show length have been horrible lately. It's not like theres a shortage of anything to talk about. Have an entire feedback dedicated the ME3. That would easily spark an hour or more debate. Come on guys, I know you can do better than this. This episode of feedback has to be the laziest I've ever seen...I mean Blair's mic wasn't even working!

    Posted: March 15, 2012 10:50 AM
  • VietnamBob2473

    Quality and show length have been horrible lately. It's not like theres a shortage of anything to talk about. Have an entire feedback dedicated the ME3. That would easily spark an hour or more debate. Come on guys, I know you can do better than this. This episode of feedback has to be the laziest I've ever seen...I mean Blair's mic wasn't even working!

    Posted: March 15, 2012 10:48 AM
  • drgnmstr44

    On the day 1 DLC for ME3, people need to suck it up just a little bit. First off, it was originally collectors edition only content meaning people that didn't get collectors edition weren't getting it. Second, Bioware realized it needed to be there for everyone so they gave you the option of getting what I feel is 1 of only two things in collectors edition that was worth it for a purchase with out having to get collectors edition. So you purchase standard game for 60 dollars and tack on a 5 or 10 dollar DLC and you're getting the same game as people that paid 80 for collectors.

    That kind of move to me is a lot better than releasing a game with no collectors that has DLC in it and then releasing day 1 DLC. If Bioware would have said before that the collectors DLC was available Day 1, I would have gotten the regular version instead and purchased the DLC.

    What irritates me is that on Xbox, I have to change discs WAY too much even though I installed the game to the hard drive because it seems the side quests are all on the second disc. that's pretty stupid to me. If I install it to the hard drive, the data from disc 1 and disc 2 should be readable from either disc in hte system. I shouldn't have to change discs because it's all already there. This is probably a Microsoft fault but it still sucks.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 7:01 AM
  • drgnmstr44

    blair sounds like he's in a fishbowl or on a plane or something. Don't you guys do any sound check of the mics or headsets BEFORE you start recording? seems like a no brainer to me but someone slept on that job.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 6:52 AM
  • BoydofZINJ

    What is my thought on Day One DLC?

    Day One DLC, is acceptable if it comes in collctors edition or premium edition. I got the el cheapo collectors edition for Mass Effect 3. I got the DLC - no biggie. To me, it makes it seem that if you get collectors edition and get day one DLC it is a reward to the true fans of the game. However, let us think of this in a different way.

    Has anyone ever bought a Collector's Edition that was $150 and you got very little? THAT IS CRIMINAL. However, you do the Mass Effect 3 version and not only do you get the Collector's Edition cheap - but you get an extra character and the DLC. In the grand scope of the game - he is as useful as Zaeed. Zaeed can be useful - but has the least amount of characer development and least useful in squad selection (for my playstyle). The Mass Effect 3 DLC has the same effect on me. The DLC character (without throwing in Spoilers) had the least character development and the least useful in my squad selection. The character is almost pointless. Truely. So - does it matter he is on? NOPE.

    So I think EA and Bioware handled the Day One DLC for Mass Effect 3 very well. Honestly, this is no different than what they did with Mass Effect 2. Zaeed - The Price of Revenge was a Day one DLC and I am going to guess he was pre-programmed as well into the game. So why is did no one complain back when Mass Effect 2 start?

    I can tell you the answer: Internet people like to complain. Sometimes I like to complain too. Not all complaints are valid.

    (I tried to avoid as much spoilers for Mass Effect 3 as possible.)

    Posted: March 15, 2012 6:50 AM
  • tomb940

    sessler! sessler! this show needs sessler!

    Posted: March 15, 2012 4:20 AM
  • tomb940

    bring back adam sessler

    Posted: March 15, 2012 4:18 AM
  • Minion2000

    Long time watcher. I'm sorry this episode really pissed me off. Only reason is b/c clearly you werent all together to make it. That is not a conversation thats freaking talking points. Please god do not go the route of cable media.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 12:23 AM
  • grkpektis69

    Nikole usually looks hot but she looks like crap with glasses.

    Posted: March 14, 2012 11:25 PM
  • Snookstah

    I'm posting as someone who lives in Silver Lake/Hollywood, has been in many scenes & knows "it" when he sees "it."

    NikoleZ has "it"!!!!!!

    But this show is bottling her up & I think it's sad. Her passion, intelligence, & "gamer-girl hotness" is NOT put on display here at all, it does the opposite. I've seen her in some other Internet thing & given a chance, she has that "spark" that lights up the screen. Is anyone of the "powers that be" going to read this? If so, listen to this:


    Those other guys definitely cannot, not trying to be mean, but it's the truth. Think: younger version of Jessica Chobot. Spunky, sparky, make you excited to watch (in a good way), making us happy & making you piles of $$$ = Win - Win - Win.

    Rethink her, remake her, utilize her God-given assets, let her fly, we all need her.

    The End

    Posted: March 14, 2012 11:23 PM
  • CareyGrant

    There's a problem with your comparison to Epic: people still pay for the license to use the Unreal engine, it isn't free--of course Epic wants everyone on Unreal. If your argument was to imply that Quantic Dreams should license this tech to other companies for a fee like Epic does it's Unreal engine, then I agree. However, just "giving it away" would be a HUGE mistake for them financially.

    Also... 35 minutes?! C'mon! That's weak sauce!

    Posted: March 14, 2012 11:04 PM
  • JonMangod

    I think Casey Hudson is great and I respect his work on this game. But I think that EA should have thought through allowing Casey to create this "polarizing" ending. If I was an executive trying to create as much revenue from my product line as possible, I would be very wary of an ending that closed off the universe of my game from future installments. You can of course feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the ending of ME3 does just that. Other franchises have made a vast majority of their money on the expanded universe of toys, games, etc.
    On the flip side, if Casey was trying to create a series finally that was divisive and final, I think he was forgetting he was working for a huge cooperation, that will probably take his ending, and scrub it in favor of selling more games, and making more money. It is sad, but EA will probably release a DLC that will nullify what he was trying to achieve.
    Slight *SPOILER* ahead
    These are my thoughts from an unbiased standpoint. But as a fan, I feel cheated into believing that the adventure would never be through. I feel cheated, that I was led to believe that the Krogan would be a new threat, or the Racni may turn on the Galaxy once more. But with the destruction of the Mass Relays, it feels pointless to wonder or care. The doors to the universe slammed shut. I think every one would agree that the death of a hero is a hard thing to endure, but we understand that that all stories must end to let new ones begin. It's the death of a universe which means the death of all stories and this has polarized us. Mass Effect has never been the best thing I have played, but it had something that make for a good adventure story; A setting that could revival Star Wars or Star Trek in scope and depth. You can kill Shepherd but why did you kill Mass Effect?

    Posted: March 14, 2012 11:00 PM
  • kings_legacy

    I'm with Nicole on this on about day one DLC. It not acceptable to take something out of a game to charge a extra $10. The whole argument that it wasn't complete is just a cover up by EA. Yeah I'm sure a big multi billion dollar company wouldn't lie or tell certain people to say certain things to cover their backsides. Yeah Bioware made alot of quality games but what quality got to do with letting people get away with d--k moves. People sure as hell didn't keep quite when George Lucas re-edit the original Star Wars.

    There absolutely nothing wrong with liking Bioware or the games they make, but when you let them get away with things like this, then you tell them its okay to keep on doing it/ then everyone follows suit sooner or late and we end up with incomplete games in the end.

    As for the so called "well it could make games cheaper", what century are you living in? The BIg companies are out to make profit, I don't think begin fair and generous comes into play/ ever.

    That's my Two Cents anyways

    Posted: March 14, 2012 10:53 PM
  • JonMangod

    What is up with Feedback lately?

    Posted: March 14, 2012 10:42 PM
  • SH187

    the quality of the show is great, the quantity is exactly the opposite!
    I mean 15-20 min. shorter, what the hell?!

    Posted: March 14, 2012 10:33 PM
  • crocodilius

    It's cool to see Nikole is a responsible consumer.
    I'm guessing the dudes have more money than
    brains at this point in their life.

    Posted: March 14, 2012 10:17 PM