Feedback: Medal of Honor Warfighter, SimCity & Mass Effect 3

Posted: March 14, 2012
Feedback: Medal of Honor Warfighter, SimCity & Mass Effect 3
Blair Herter and the Feedback crew discuss GDC 2012's big announcements like Medal of Honor Warfighter and SimCity. Find out what the panel really thinks about Mass Effect 3's Day One DLC.

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  • SinHasFlesh

    Audio sucked, and 2 short :(

    Posted: March 27, 2012 5:32 PM
  • T_Dawg135

    For both the Day One ME3 DLC and the Street Fighter X Tekken character lock controversies, the biggest problem is that the companies are basically announcing to the fans that they are ripping them off. They pulled their fans to the side and said, "Listen, we know you want this. We know you want this so bad that you'll pay for it. So, here's what we're going to do. We're going to charge you for it and rip you off." That's their prerogative, but that doesn't make it a good business decision.

    Posted: March 24, 2012 10:45 AM
  • sinosleep

    I coming dangerously close to being done with this show. Other than Nikole you've all become corporate shills. For crying out loud not that long ago you guys defend gamestop tampering with games and removing coupons and now you're defending day 1 DLC and disc locked content. What the hell is wrong with you guys? You're supposed to be an INDEPENDENT FREE THINKING show and it seems more and more like you guys have been bought and paid for.

    Posted: March 23, 2012 1:05 PM
  • Frank101me

    URRRGGH!! Audio is all over the place bad! That makes me an angry pirate!

    Posted: March 23, 2012 12:28 PM
  • Spybreak

    In regards to the ME3 day one DLC: I think if Bioware incorporated a different squad mate in the DLC this topic probably wouldn't come up. A perfect example here is have Vega as the squad mate to be optional. Seriously what makes more sense the pivotal inclusion of Javik or Vega? Really it seems so obvious to me anyways.

    Posted: March 21, 2012 8:17 AM
  • ManUpMan

    Hope they talk about the end of ME3 on the next feedback

    Posted: March 21, 2012 1:05 AM
  • Richard_The_Gr8

    Nicole's there, gotta bump it up to HD...I mean...I can see the games better...

    Posted: March 19, 2012 3:52 PM
  • Ender.Wiggin

    It's frustrating to hear the gaming press dismiss valid criticisms that consumers have of what is admittedly a broken business model. If so many people are unhappy with a product, a business, or a way of doing business, it seems likely that there is valid reason for concern or criticism underlying the outcry. To dismiss it out of hand, or scoff at the people calling attention to it, seems odd.

    The gaming press understands the business of games well, but the flip side of this is that it becomes easier to forget how it feels to be a normal consumer. Consumers do not care about why a business wants to do something that benefits itself, but only on what the output of that business is. And if that output is lacking, or has problems, then it's fair of consumers to call attention to it, and it should be expected the gaming press will cover it openly and fairly. That the press so often seem to hold open disdain for gamers or their criticisms as a whole is utterly dispiriting.

    Note that not all of this directed squarely at G4/Feedback, but rather an indictment of the way things are at large. As someone who's passionate about the industry, games, and journalism, it's tough to find yourself in what feels like a constant battle between publishers, press, and consumers.

    Posted: March 19, 2012 8:36 AM
  • nutzViking

    Great feedback! Too bad the audio cables were eaten by garden gnomes :'-(

    Posted: March 19, 2012 7:00 AM
  • D_Hubbard_OH

    A game development process takes a long time, this includes DLC. What the guy unlocked was the character which I assume would be one of the first things you would develop while making content thats only important because of that character. So they probably stuck the character on the disk to save the download since he was already created then continued to finish the DLC while they were prepping the game for its release (including creating the millions of disks they were about to sell which can't be a quick process). While that was occurring they probably finished the DLC (because unsurprisingly it was incredibly short as most DLC is a rip off and released the rest of it in the download). Honestly companies should just stop releasing DLC on day one and just hold on to it for like 2 or 3 weeks then release it. It would stop all the complaining by these people that vehemently discuss something that they can't know the reasoning or motive behind. As a result would get their just reward of having to wait an extra amount of time for something that they could have had earlier. Gamers should accept that companies by in large know releasing DLC that was a part of the main game would hurt their future sales more than they would make by duping people into paying for something that they should have had in the game as game content.

    Posted: March 18, 2012 5:32 PM
  • AXE3_25XX_EXE

    Rule for DLC, don't do Day 1 and don't lock things on the discs. I guess unlocking characters in fighting games is a thing of a past, really sad.

    Posted: March 17, 2012 11:11 AM
  • Bowmanganie

    Day 1 DLC, locked content, who cares?? The big thing was it was 15 minutes of content for $10. Yes, yes, a usable character, but so what? So NOT worth $10, maybe $3. I got suckered into it cause "it is the same as what you get with the collectors edition" so I mistakenly thought it would have been something meaningful. Okay a Promethean is meaningful. Maybe a better word would have been substantial? Not again.... ever.

    Posted: March 17, 2012 12:18 AM
  • gesco81

    Day 1 dlc isn't a good thing in my opinion but it is also not a big deal to me since I bought the C.E. I do agree with Nikole that the endings will hurt ME3 and not the day 1 dlc.

    Posted: March 16, 2012 4:47 PM
  • M3rc_Nate

    Oh and im super excited for Sim city. I am a huge fan of the series and love playing them, i hope they adjusted the game a bit because anytime i would start to expand my city i would go broke, and no matter what i would do (cuts, taxes, etc) i would go mega broke.

    It looks gorgeous though thats not gameplay i guess, idk. Anyways, super excited and cant wait. Hate that its a 2013 release though, im not really a fan of 1 year away teasing.

    Posted: March 16, 2012 1:49 PM
  • M3rc_Nate

    First off, i love Nikole for being a true ME fan and voicing her opinions. She seems to be the only "game journalist" agreeing with the uprising fanbase against the ending. (btw, i found Robs comment to be annoying "just get over it" is pretty lame, $180+...100+hrs, 4-5 years..and i should just get over it? I doubt if we talked about YOUR favorite thing of all time (tv show, movie, game) that had something about it you didnt like and i said get over it, you'd be upset)
    As for the day one DLC, i agree with Nikole, but that topic doesnt hit home as much as the ending issue does for me.

    So far though, way to go Feedback crew, you guys seem to be the most mature, intelligent, non bashing, non belittling game journalists on the internet when discussing ME3. If you do a special ME3 episode, please keep it that way. :-)

    I was kinda burned by MOH 2010, but i actually liked the SP, and got a good 20+hrs out of the MP, but i will wait majorly for reviews of the new MOH before i even CONSIDER buying it. Mainly the SP cause i am all set with FPS multiplayers, i got BF3 and thats ALL i need.

    WOW that is a really exciting tease from Blair about Assassins Creed 3. I mean i am a HUGE fan of the series, but what he said should be used in commercials cause it really peaked my interest. I was excited to begin with but am now super curious what hes seen that is SO amazing. I cant wait.

    Posted: March 16, 2012 1:46 PM
  • Heartland


    - Put locked DLC on the disk to save console memory space for unlocking it later on? (WTF!!!)
    - Everyone's going to buy it anyways, so you might as well just get it?
    - It's not intended to be apart of the game so what does it matter?

    THE CONTENT IS LOCKED ON THE FREAKIN' DISK. It is GAME CONTENT included in the package that is locked from the consumer.

    This doesn't happen in any other entertainment medium that I can think of.

    Posted: March 16, 2012 9:58 AM
  • luckey7

    I went the entire game without the DLC cuz I didnt want to pay for something that should be on the disc. But after awhile I started to get pissed that this content was turned into a DLC because like they said when you think about it the game kinda revolves around the protheans so far bioware to take that away from people like me that dont have live is just stupid......

    Posted: March 16, 2012 7:14 AM
  • Malapropism

    i like how last week someone was angry about how they didn't discuss day 1 dlc, and nikole stated that g4 has already made their comments about it and called the person uninformed, now this week it's in the opening title, and she's also angry about the ending, hilarious!

    Posted: March 16, 2012 7:13 AM
  • serenity619

    Mass Effect 3 ending/ issues with:

    First, let me say that I fully enjoyed the game until the ending. I do believe this game is the pinnacle of the series. Reasons for dislike of the ending: I invested 5 years into the characters. Into the decisions made throughout the 3 games. Yet all three endings of Mass Effect 3 left me feeling that none of my choices made a difference. I fought over the course of three games (I went full Paragon for discloser) to unite as many races as possible. Formed bonds with people. Had it in my mind that the unity of the galaxy was dependent on its survival. Even know Shepard is the driving force for all this, he can't "do it alone". The way I felt (or should I say the way "the game" made me feel) was that the peace of all the races and standing together was the only thing that could defeat the coming assault by the Reapers.
    Then the ending.... (As I see it)... No matter what you did, you are the decision maker "playing God". It all comes to just one man/ women's choice. NOT the team you assembled, NOT the galaxy that I worked so hard to bring together. Basically taking everything I accomplished over three games and throwing it out the proverbial window.
    I spent three games forming a "Shepard" that was tailored to my play style, my way of thinking. Making choices of the same way of thinking. It doesn't bother me that Shepard dies (I may not like it, but it wouldn't ruin the gaming experience for me), it is just how it is done in context to the story.

    I should also state that I am 41 years old. I have been playing games for over 30 years. I have never tried to post on a blog or even try to voice my opinion to a company over any issues or dislike of a game. Either I like it or I don't, and I move on. This one bothered me though, enough to take some time out of my life to voice an opinion. How would I fix it? No answer for you. Maybe I am just looking for some explanation of what the creators at Bioware/ EA were thinking when they wrote these endings.

    Posted: March 16, 2012 6:49 AM
  • Memu

    Day 1 DLC just makes obvious that all DLC is only a way for game companies to make more $ than the standard going rate for a game. Which I don't think is bad. Games have given me some of the best entertainment times of my life and I think the developers deserve everything they can get. The thing that irks me about DLC is that, being frugal, I like to know the full price of a thing and what all I am getting for that price before buying it. That is why I tend to wait for the GotY edition. (Just got Fallout New Vegas Ultimate!) With DLC the game co's are acting like drug dealers that get people hooked on the initial big dose and then nickle and dime them with fixes over time to appease their habit. Just pointing out that that is how they are acting, not passing judgement. So you see that it doesn't matter when the DLC comes out or if it is already in the initial shipped game content. The fact is that all DLC is planned. You don't pay developers to waste time making something that might be DLC. .Plan it. Build it. Sell it. Profit! Day 1 DLC is just blatant in-your-face with how things really are. That is why it upsets [some of] you.

    DLC is like episodic content. Episodic content sucks! (Where the H is episode 3?) I wait until at least a whole season of a show is out and then watch it at my own pace. I don't want to be spoon fed tiny bites over time at the times someone else chooses. I want the full feast spread out before me so I can choose. I waited for all 3 lord of the rings movies to be on dvd before watching the whole show in one sitting. I would like to play Batman AC right now, but I would have to do research to figure out what the myriad of DLCs there are for it and what is in them. Just wrap it all up into one box at some time in the future and I'll pick it up then.

    Posted: March 15, 2012 4:58 PM