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Sessler's Soapbox: Mass Effect 3 Wrap Up

Posted: March 13, 2012
Sessler's Soapbox: Mass Effect 3 Wrap Up
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Adam discusses Mass Effect 3's day-one DLC, its controversial ending, and how well it handled same-sex relationships.

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  • DanielKeating

    Mr. Sessler,

    Art is not untouchable.

    Art does not live it a bubble that can not be touched by society and is the sole dominion of the artist. Most of the art that enriches our culture was commissioned works. My favorite piece of art: Pieta by Michelangelo (one of the saddest and most beautiful pieces of art ever made) was commissioned by Cardinal Dean de Billheres. If throughout the creation of this amazing piece of work Michelangelo had a clear artist vision to capture something so incredible and woeful but at the end but a big happy smile on Mary's face, Cardinal Billheres would have been in his rights to ask for it redone even though he is not the artist. We have paid for a piece of art that should have been continued along the same artist direction as the rest of the body of work and wasn't (player choice makes a difference and effects the final outcome of the game). That is why we are upset with the ending.

    With respect, I feel that some of your points are alittle off when addressing the game's ending. I have read Little Neil and how Dickens arrives at that conclusion is true to the artist vision of the piece of art he made. It may be a sad ending but makes sense given what he was producing artistically. The Mass Effect games artist direction has always been that the player's decisions matter towards the outcome of the final product. Bioware did not do this. In the end we were given an ending that did not reflect that artist direction: our choices did not matter. The ending would be the same no matter what we did.

    Add onto that the opinion that the ending is very deus ex machina, with contradictions within its own lore, completely out of character for Commander Shepard, and had has little to no closure to the story. And you have a piece of work that, I feel, Bioware should not be proud of since it contradicts the very soul of what they had done before.

    With Great Respect,

    Daniel Keating

    Posted: March 13, 2012 8:34 PM
    DanielKeating
  • locsphere

    SPOILERS IN THE LINK

    My video response
    http://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=ZW5MNhcR_2Y

    Posted: March 13, 2012 8:20 PM
    locsphere
  • U_NO_HOO

    as always good video Adam, my only issue with the ending was their wasnt enough closure for me. I just want a clear answer as to out of all the characters I bumped into again from the past games, who lived and who died. But according to game informer darkhorse comics are going be releasing some comic that focus on the characters in the aftermath. Just wish I didnt have to buy a comicbook to find out what I feel shouldve been in the games ending.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 8:16 PM
    U_NO_HOO
  • halbert986

    I wouldn't exactly call this spoiler free. Anyone with half a brain could probably put 2 and 2 together. Maybe change the title there or give a warning?

    I saw nothing wrong with the ending I picked. I've yet to see the others. That being said, there were an awful lot of unanswered questions. I feel like they could safely make an entire spin off out of the unanswered questions left at the end.

    What they did with the moral choice system was pioneering, sort of. It's really just common sense applied to game logic, I can't wait to see how it's adapted in the future though. It can only be improved on. Hopefully the days of pure good and pure evil are gone though.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 8:11 PM
    halbert986
  • Jake55648

    I agree that the ending was quite good. However its the fact that no mater what you do you get the same basic ending. three games of time making decisions and their tag line that your decisions matter. Yet it doesnt. Not cool.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 7:54 PM
  • locsphere

    This is a general statement to organizations like your and not Directed at you Adam as you were respectful. However....

    Where are the people who are suppose to represent the gamers on this? IGN, Game Informer, G4, all have this synonymous stereotype that everyone complaining is just whining because we didn't get our fairy tail endings. Everyone who works for a video game review companies is backing BioWare and the ending. The movement online is almost 23,000 and climbing by the minute as more and more players finish the ending

    Pull your heads out of your rear ends please. This is not about a happy ending it is an ending with out any explanation what so ever, it is an ending that quickly wraps up 3 games with 100 of invested hours. We strand all the races at Earth, destroy galactic travel, Our choices were turned into war assets that have no real impact value and there are so many more questions than there are answers.

    It is obvious that these gaming companies, and the gaming critics are pretty much all working for each other. One hand washes the other so to speak. Have you played so many games in an effort to offer an opinion on them that you have lost touch with being part of the story? Each game being a job that you must grind through to write a report.

    IGN, Game Informer, G4 and every other type of organization like yours if you continue to bash not only Bio wares fan base, who are also your fan base there are going to be repercussions. Lets say for a moment that maybe we in the final moments were not indoctrinated and that there is no ending DLC.

    You are Okay with the end? Just like you gave Dues Ex a fairly decent review despite its ending. Looking at overall game play and ignoring the story? Crysis 2 received rave reviews, but no one ever looked at its basis and ignored it being a console port. Its fans sold out in the PC forum.

    Your organizations no longer represent us, or have any weight in say of we the gamer. As you work for a company and must quell your own opinions in the effort of appeasement. The fact we have been called whiners and people associated with the psycho in misery really shows how our being your fans has paid off. Prepare for the backlash gentleman. Its going to be a big one.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 7:41 PM
    locsphere
  • Atraiyu_Wrynn

    Countered Sessler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4H_A7SeawU4

    Posted: March 13, 2012 7:25 PM
    Atraiyu_Wrynn
  • RoadRunner619

    I'm Commander Shepard and the Mass Effect 3 ending is my favorite hallucination on the Citadel!

    Posted: March 13, 2012 7:24 PM
  • MiracleOnIce80

    Hold them hostage ??? If we got the game for free i'd get that response. After $80 for the CE of 3, $70 for ME 2 CE, and $60 for ME1 PLUS the numerous DLC. We deserve quality. Not ambiguous art. All the movements are asking for is a clear, explained ending IN THE GAME. Not a motion comic. Not a press release. Playable ending that makes sense. Not the acid trip nonsensical ending we were force fed with no regard for previous choices made over the past games. It isn't entitlement. It's getting what we were PROMISED.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 6:33 PM
  • LegatoSkyheart

    Sessler....you really think the fans are mad because of what happens to Shepard????
    NO. It's not that at all! It's the Plot Holes that the end makes and what not! THE END JUST DID NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL. By All means do that to Shepard, but don't make it so out of place!
    Not to mention the ending tells you that everything you did in the previous games didn't matter at all. The out come of the games will always be the same.

    Just choose your favorite color.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 6:24 PM
    LegatoSkyheart
  • Sorceress

    I simply don't like the fact that for 23.75 hours your driving through the Canadian Rockies, then all of a sudden a reaper lands and your in the Sahara, out of gas, and some kid telling you he's god has you cow-towed and defeated.. If your going to drive me through the Canadian Rockies then lets finish the drive, in the Canadian Rockies. this disorientating style of ending doesn't really cut it..

    Posted: March 13, 2012 6:13 PM
    Sorceress
  • kedub57

    My 2 cents regarding the ending. We did find out that the entirety of your mass effect playthrough is a story told from a grandfather to a grandchild. It is conceivable that everything shepard did, up until being taken up into the crucible, could have been taken from reports based on eyewitness testimony or electronic logs. Once there, there is a chance that there is no way for anyone to know what happened. So, people had to infer what happened based on what happened to the universe after the energy from the crucible was released. That story got retold and became more exaggerated over the "long, long time" between the events and the Grandfather telling the story. That is probably why that section kind of has a fantastical feel to it.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 6:00 PM
    kedub57
  • lostwarder@aol.com

    Sorry I have to disagree with you entirely. First off just about no one has been upset about the homosexual relationships they were done pretty well and as you said, was incredibly casual which was good. Secondly no one is holding bioware hostage saying we demand a happy ending (though i would like one) people are upset about our choices being shoe horned into 3 equally craptastic endings. All 3 are poorly conceived and have giant plot holes in them. People in the media need to actually read peoples complaints before just pushing us off as a group of whiny kids that want sunshine and rainboys.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:50 PM
    lostwarder%40aol.com
  • klope

    danget adam, you spoiled Little Nell for me. THANKS! jk

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:44 PM
    klope
  • E5150Julian

    I Wouldn't mind a dark ending to the series I was hoping My Shepard would die, but they way they did it... Introducing Deux ex Machina made the series full of plot holes, not to mention that none of your actions in any of the three games made a significant difference towards the ending you received also after spending days playing and starting to love the characters you are given no closure... This is not a linear movie or game this was a game that was promoted under the assumption that "your choices mattered" and when you sell a lie I think people have a right to protest and demand better results

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:28 PM
    E5150Julian
  • flyingchicken

    People who didn't get the "day one" DLC: DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT. You are missing nothing. Alternate costumes was the best part of the DLC... and the voice actor was good.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:25 PM
    flyingchicken
  • baGoGoodies111

    I can agree with you Adam on all of the points. The only thing that "upsets" me is that, of the endings, it all more or less depends on the Galactic Readiness you have(which opens your options). Wherein after that fact, your Paragon or Renegade status doesn't really affect the outcome of the endings. I felt that maybe, they could've given a little more "closure" to each ending, instead of generalizing it. I know the story with Shepard may now be over, but the way it ended, made if feel like you were just on a one night stand with the Shep.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:22 PM
  • baGoGoodies111

    I can agree with you Adam on all of the points. The only thing that "upsets" me is that, of the endings, it all more or less depends on the Galactic Readiness you have(which opens your options). Wherein after that fact, your Paragon or Renegade status doesn't really affect the outcome of the endings. I felt that maybe, they could've given a little more "closure" to each ending, instead of generalizing it. I know the story with Shepard may now be over, but the way it ended, made if feel like you were just on a one night stand with the Shep.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:22 PM
  • SilencedScream

    Made an account just to comment:

    The major issues with the ending, as a few have stated, are that:
    1.) There's no closure. There's three MAJOR different endings, and I recognize that - however, because nothing is expanded no beyond this, the joke is that the only "choice" is a choice between red, green, and blue. There is no expansion on this decision, there is no expansion on all of the major overarching plot decisions (Quarian/Geth fight, Genophage, etc.)

    2.) Plot holes. How do your two squad mates teleport back to the Normandy when they were supposed to ALL rush the beam at the end? Why is the Normandy not in the fight, but trying to fly through a mass relay? Why did Miranda need to play a tracker on the Cerberus agent when the Cerberus base is still sitting in front of the same sun/star that is in ME2 (when SHE is aboard the base)? What happens to all of the aliens that Shepard gathered that are now stuck in the Sol system (or must suffer 10-20 years of travel)?

    I'll refrain from more because of exposing spoilers.

    Just, please, recognize that the thousands of posters on Bioware's forum have analyzed and thought things through; people aren't complaining for the sake of complaining. There are MAJOR plot gaps and unexplained questions that people want addressed.

    As it stands now, the ending feels tacked on and rushed - like a potentially decent, but still incomplete thought.

    Posted: March 13, 2012 5:04 PM
    SilencedScream
  • hadlee73

    Fantastic comparison to the film "Misery" Ses. I think Bioware may indeed a few million "number one fans" out there to deal with :)

    Posted: March 13, 2012 4:56 PM
    hadlee73
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