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Anything Nintendo has done after N64 has not impressed me. If they went out of business today, I wouldn't care or miss them.
thanks for a comforting soapbox on that matter adam. good look by the way.
Well stated, well received.Would be entirely interesting what Nintendo actually does (if anything!) six months from now. A new leader might bring about the effect that Reggie initially had upon his public unveiling, but its not as if Reggie did much for Nintendo's core philosophy - or Iwata vs Yamauchi for that matter.I think a lot of this confusion might come to a head when we know just what on EARTH Nintendo is actually doing - hopefully by this time next year. We know they have poured their resources into Skyward Sword, Super Mario 3D Land, and half of Mario Kart alongside Retro studios....but what the heck is the majority of the company up to? There are entire studios over at Nintendo that are completely unaccounted for! Conventional wisdom states this will all come to fruition when the Wii U is accompanied by SOME SORT OF GAMES at all...but with Nintendo, who really knows?What Miyamoto does must in fact have some relation to what he's been doing. We can only really wait, I suppose.
its the fact that they been making most of there games kids that are 10 and under in mind
Alright, here we go.In my opinion, Nintendo is at the crossroads. This is probably one of the worst year they've had in the last decade. Nintendo is at the point where they have to choose a winning game plan. It's hard, but it can be done. Nintendo lost it's major core audience when they simply grew up. For whatever reason, after the Nintendo 64, the gamers who once loved Nintendo condemned them for not having mature titles like Grand Theft Auto and Halo and instead having a "kiddy" zelda and sticking to their franchises. The gamecube was seen unfairly as a horrible system by some many people. At this point, Nintendo also lost a majority of it's third party support due to Sony taking 1st place in sales. Nintendo still has yet to get back the amazing third party support it once had. On top of all this, Nintendo is having a hard time trying to find a demographic. Nintendo fans will always buy their systems because we realize that they make quality games, but most don't see it that way. Many modern gamers see Nintendo as kiddy and someone who clings to the past. A valid argument can be made for that. You can't blame them since so much shovelware is on the Wii. On top of losing the hardcore audience who once cherished their legendary franchises, the audience that they turned to once they were abandoned (the casuals) failed the mas well, seeing as how they bought little to no software after buying their systems. So how is nintendo supposed to get to the top? Do they do what so many people are telling them to do? Abandon their "boring, repetitive" franchises and transition to what the other consoles are doing and make dark gritty shooters and action games? Stay with their franchises and hold true to their name? who knows?Personally, I think Nintendo does need to make new IPs, but also needs to retain its core franchises. They also need to pump out better graphics for the graphics whores, have an online system as good as xbox live and regain strong third party support.Ok, I'm done. Wow that's a lot haha
only for the next super smash bros. im getting the wii u i love those games. i just hope they don't go outta business or end up like sega. because nintendo makes quality product and i will always support them because i have the old nintendo i have all the nintendo systems and they all work. ps1 been flaked out before ps2 was even think of. ps2 flaked before the ps2 slim came out ps2 slim flaked before the ps3 came out and now everytime i turn on that silm ps3 its like im counting the clicks before i get some system error. thas 2 ps3 i had so far. and it crashed many times. but i wanna see what nintendo will be like now cause ppl are just xbox and sony fans now.
Pushing the issue at hand aside, I have a personal message for Adam Sessler.You look and sound tired, may I be bold and suggest you take a break?Go study/read/do/enjoy something else and come back when you're refreshed.
As much respect as I have for Miyamoto, I kind of hope his role does change. I grew up spending hours with the NES, SNES, and 64. Since then I've been a Playstation fan. Both the Gamecube and the Wii were disappointments in my eyes. Nintendo's software, with the exception of a couple games, has been underwhelming and the gimmicky Wii Remotes are something I will never get used to.So I'm all for change. Maybe we can get some new IPs, or have other bright minds revolutionized their current franchises. Maybe we can dump all the gimmicks and focus on a powerful traditional console. My level of enthusiasm for Nintendo is at an all time low. and although it could still sink a bit lower, it has a much bigger potential to go up. Hopefully some change could revitalize Nintendo and reinvigorate my interest to the levels they were at a decade or two ago.
I find it funny that miyamoto's reasoning is to strengthen the talents of the young generation that doesn't have to rely on him.....because that's exactly what Goku said...
I think putting Miyamoto in the background to work with the young blood would be a smart move by Nintendo. I've been incredibly underwhelmed by their recent works to the point that every time they come out with something I just want to put my head in a bag and pretend its not happening.I'm really sick of them pulling out all of these old IPs when the gaming industry has really begun to move on from its roots. I'm not saying they aren't still great to come back to them, but I think there needs to be some fresh ideas brought into the company. Just think what the next 20-someodd years would be like if Nintendo produced a couple of really good fresh ideas now?
I have to disagree with Adam. I think Miyamoto retireing can do nothing but help nintendo in the long run. Nintendo has relied on his games and ideas so heavily in the last 20 odd years that they have really become extreemly stagnant. The idea of another Zelda game or another Mario game or another Metroid game may make the nintendo fanboys squeel in delight but for those of us who aren't fanboys it's just hauling out the dead horse to beat on it a little more for the nostalgia dollar.Nintendo seriously needs some new blood to pull them out of the 80's and early 90's to realize that games have moved beyond Mario and zelda and no amount of gimicy hardware can prop up that dead horse any longer.
I think that the biggest misunderstanding is coming from the lack of understanding of the Japanese culture, and I know that comes up often with the Japanese/American exchange, but it's really, really true. [The best I can do is recommend the book The Inscrutable Japanese from Bilingual Books.]A few insights on understanding the culture and especially how that translates to business: - Japanese will not come out and say NO, they will say things like 'that is difficult', because saying no is negative and negativity is not publicly expressed. - Americans like to get fast answers, get the ball rolling and make decisions on the fly, the Japanese will spend most of the time on a project working on logistics before committing to a plan then only making a move when as many of the for-scene obstacles/mishaps have been worked out. - One a decision is made, the Japanese will push forward with that idea even if it is obvious to many people that is may not be the best thing to do, so much time is spent on the planning (see above) that to alter that plan, even at the expense of the final product, would be unthinkable. - Getting a job with a company is not like America, the process is long and very detailed, you are essentially being brought into a family and likewise will be taken care of by that family (if you work with that company for your whole life) long after you retire. - Even if someone were to 'retire' from a company, that would likely (especially for a head of a large company) it would only be a symbolic handing over of power, the old boss would still have as much input into the operations of the company. Lastly, without a comprehensive understanding of the language, I think it's safe to assume that retirement of Shigeru Miyamoto probably means a few less hours/days in the office and some extended vacations, not a wholesale leaving of the company to sit home watching re-runs of Matlock.[Again, I highly recommend The Inscrutable Japanese if you are a fan of anything that comes out of Japan, be it games, TV, movie, books or are interested in visiting, it may prevent some embarrassment]
With all this poor management at nintendo and with Miyamoto having a "dream," or whatever you want to call it, of going back to just making games, I wonder if maybe we could see the fall of Nintendo. Could we end up with Nintendo going in the direction of Sega. Will they just sell their properties to other consules? I couldn't dream of a world without Nintendo. I was born in 1985 just like Mario and Super Mario Bro.s was my first game that I got to pick out. Plus, if the WiiU doesn't sound like it's worth buying. To be honest yea it can do a few ore things and it will have yet another periferal. Do you know how many different accessories I have for the Wii that I never use? And the new system, from what I hear, wont play DVDs or BluRay discs. I hope they bring back their old games in the style that made them famous. A top down Zelda, Star Fox that you dont run around or drive tanks in. The retro style Donkey Kong was great, new super mario bros was great. Kirby is back. Companies are always trying to do the new thing and lose track of where they came from, I think Nintendo is at that point and thats why Miyamoto said what he said. i think, whether he meant it or not, just wants to get back to what he had fun doing, creating games. He misses that feeling of play over business. i hope they find themselves soon because I want to keep playing their games.
shot in the dark but maybe his position at nintendo doesnt allow him to be as creative as he wants.
I'm starting to get somewhat disturbed by all these fallus analogies that Adam's making.
I doubt Miyamoto will ever officially retire even if he is for all practical purposes retired.At some point Miyamoto will become more of a figurehead, a flesh and blood mascot that Nintendo will march out for publicity purposes long after he's stopped working on games.Miyamoto will be to Nintendo what the emperor is to Japan. He may no longer have a great deal of managerial power; but when he speaks people will listen.
lol@emergency soapbox ;o
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