Action Games In Depth

Posted: September 26, 2011
Action Games In Depth
Will titles like The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, and Assassin's Creed: Revelations live up to the hype? Adam Morgan and Morgan Webb talk it out.

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  • Madav

    It may come sooner than they think. Wii-U is expected out in 2012 and is boasting 1080p graphics for some of gamers' most nostalgic franchises so we'll see how that pans out. I'm not completely sold on the controller with how wide it is just for the touch screen and I haven't seen anybody use it further than a few feet from the console itself, but it intrigues me nonetheless.

    Posted: October 25, 2011 1:16 AM
  • sirxblade

    Really? I'm sorry but if you think The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword isnt Innovative or creative you must live in a small world. and how is it boring? Not only does Link get to ride a freaken bird, but he can shoot sword beams. Just because Link doesnt wield a chainsaw gun, doesnt mean it isnt going to be a good game, Remember Duke Nukem? yea well that was a borefest.

    I'm sorry if the legend of zelda isnt "mature" or "realistic" enough for you, maybe it wasnt meant to be like that, remember the nes zeldas? oh yeah not really realistic! Remember OOT? yea that was pretty cartoony in its own way!

    Posted: October 19, 2011 7:43 PM
  • JimmyTheKid

    Just one thing, anyone who thinks Zelda will turn into a Dark Souls type of game as soon as it's on a HD console can just stop expecting that. It's not what Zelda is. It's not what Zelda should become. If you want that sort of game, then go ahead and play something like that on another system or from another developer, but don't try to turn Zelda into something that it's not.

    Posted: September 28, 2011 6:55 PM
  • JimmyTheKid

    Can I just say something else? Those of you who think that Zelda will instantly think Zelda will turn into Dark Souls as soon as it's on a HD console can stop thinking that. That's not what Zelda is. That shouldn't be what Zelda becomes. If that's what you're looking for, then play games that are like that, but don't hope for a game loved by many to turn into something that it's not.

    Posted: September 28, 2011 6:52 PM
  • superafricanwarrior

    so many great games its awwwwwsssssssssssooooooommmmmm mmmmmeeeeeee.

    Posted: September 28, 2011 4:16 PM
  • wolfman2010

    Well, it's a good lineup of games.

    Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
    As any true gamer born in the 1990's, I LOVE ZELDA. Mainly due to great gameplay, a huge expansive world, and a more or less solid plot. I very much anticipate what Nintendo plans to do with their latest entry in the series, and hope it's all they promise and more. My only concern is that perhaps the series is finally getting to be a bit stale. I mean, it is 25 years old now. It's tough to keep a franchise running for a long time, and Nintendo has done a fabulous job with it, but I still feel like there comes a point when it's time to put the cow out to pasture.

    Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
    I don't play Uncharted, but when I first saw it, I really wanted to play it, mainly because it reminded me so much of the other great ancient treasure seeker game, Tomb Raider. Definitively, Nathan Drake is a Lara Croft as a man. The only thing that drove me up a wall with both of these games is that the characterization is pretty much exactly the same too. Croft was shallow, and possibly psychotic, and Drake only added smugness to the character. Don't get me wrong, the gameplay is smooth and it looks amazing. I would love to sit down and actually play the games if I owned a PS3. But I don't. I only hope it doesn't pull a juggernaut move at GDC like Uncharted 2 did.

    Assassin's Creed: Revelations
    I played the original Assassin's Creed and thought it was amazing. To me, it was like playing through Prince of Persia all over again, except with better options for running around. I unfortunately never went passed the first game and never had second thoughts about it. I can't really say I have much of a perspective on it, except I like the fact that Altair finally gets to be back in the spotlight again. Man, I missed him.

    Tomb Raider (Reboot)
    Seems like Crystal Dynamics is trying to give us something other than boobs from Lara Croft for a change. Personally, I'm all the happier for it. After playing Underworld, I was so let down that I decided to never go back to Tomb Raider. Lara is a crazy b#tch, and I was happy to see the series end. But now that I've seen the origins story for Lara, I am glad the series is taking itself somewhere new.

    Best of luck to all these games!

    Posted: September 28, 2011 7:19 AM
  • Thogin

    Zelda on the Wii what a sad waste of talent and man power

    Posted: September 28, 2011 4:43 AM
  • carlos0981

    I don't think the debate centers around the graphical capabilities, when it comes to Zelda, or most Nintendo franchises anyway. I think that what most people that are, lets just say banging the "Nintendo do something new" drum, like myself, referring to is the art style, direction and overall narrative of the Nintendo core franchises.

    I have played every Zelda game to have ever been released (except the ones released for that Philips CD-i thing) and I can tell you that yes I agree with Morgan. They may change the art style (from cell shaded to more realistic ) all they want, but I know that at some point I will have to do a lot of the same things that I have been doing in a Zelda game since I was bare able to wipe my own butt.

    I have seen 0 character growth from Link or Zelda, or Samus and the one time that they tried to show something different from Samus Team Ninja screwed her up. They are the same characters, that they have been for 20+ years. They get into slightly varied situations, but there is no overall story arc, or growth to speak of.

    With the Uncharted series, or Gears, or even Halo, yes each game was extremely similar to the last one, but they gave us enough big changes and more importantly, they gave CHARACTER GROWTH. We did not play with the same Drake in Uncharted 2 that we did in Uncharted 1. He grew, we saw a different side of the character, same thing in the Gears series and Halo.

    Nintendo likes to innovate with the hardware, and I do appreciate what they do from that stand point, because it helps drive the industry forward, but they rarely innovate in the software department with new IPs. I like new experiences, new stories, new characters and new universes to explore, but what I like the most, is being able to go on a journey with a character and watching them grow and change from game to game. Nintendo just does not do that for me anymore.

    And as far as the WiiU, I have really high hopes for this console. I hope that this is the console where maybe Nintendo not only finally comes through with its promise of better 3rd party support, but actually introduces new, exciting, and more mature themes to their core IPs but also introduces new IPs in general. I hope that I finally get to see a less "artsie" Hyrule and more of a grown up mature Hyrule, with Link and Zelda getting a similar makeover.

    I know Ninty fans will down vote for saying this, but this is how I feel. Sorry for the rant...

    Posted: September 27, 2011 11:35 PM
  • Foursword4

    The comments made me angry for a few reasons. The most prominent is that this debate over how graphics can make a better game. We all know that the Wii has weaker graphical capabilities than the Xbox 360 or PS3. Even bringing up that argument is idiotic at this point. Another thing is how can you compare Uncharted to Zelda? They are two totally different games with a totally different appeal. I've grown up with the Zelda series, and Uncharted is no slouch either. It is definitely a joy to play, and the atmosphere is incredible. However, I do not get the same feeling from playing Uncharted as I do when I play Zelda.

    It angers me that Nintendo has become the company to put down. Yes, their decisions with the 3DS weren't sound, and they paid the price for it. But why continue to bash them beyond that? These console wars are just silly and un-needed slander that two people can yell at each other. But in reality, isn't the main goal for game developers is for their consumers to have fun? I don't know about many of you guys, but I had a ton of fun with Mario Galaxy 2, Twilight Princess, as well as the Uncharted series. So why the constant bickering about which action game is better?

    Morgan was incredibly one-sided in her comparison. Nintendo intentionally went with the visual style in Skyward Sword. It is a piece of art, and although it isn't as realistic, (or in HD), like Uncharted, that doesn't mean that the game suffers from it. I'm willing to trust that Nintendo knows how to make a Zelda game. Besides, how many have the made so far?

    It's true that Nintendo hasn't had a new IP in years, but I see Skyward Sword as a way to reboot the series. They are leaping hurdles to develop the freshest Zelda yet. The ONLY comparison I can make between Ocarina of Time and Skyward Sword is that both games were an attempt at recreating the series. That's it.

    I own an Xbox 360 and a Wii. I have played a PS3 countless times with friends and family. I play games because they are FUN. I loved Wind Waker just as much as I loved Mass Effect 2. They are both totally unique in their own way. I don't care that one has better graphics than the other. I walked away from each game with a specific memory that makes me want to play through them again.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 10:42 PM
  • ZERK

    Ocarina of Time was the best Zelda game, so I don't see a need to progress much farther than it

    Posted: September 27, 2011 9:57 PM
  • ericmatrix1

    AC:R Just saying

    Posted: September 27, 2011 9:09 PM
  • Tmidiman

    Here's one view,

    You know I could be that it takes a lot of people to deliver the HD graphics may of us have become accustomed to, and having huge teams to work on graphics I not Nintendo's thing.

    Another view,

    I don't think less of gamers who want better or a current standard of graphics. I see it as them stating what their expectations are for Nintendo. And honestly other gamers saying whatever they do is "awesome" might be hindering Nintendo from growth the same way Madden never inMproves, because they sell millions no matter what they release.

    Younger gamers who never grew up with Nintendo and/or who can't or don't own a 360/ps3 may never notice what they are missing. And that's cool too. But it is also fine, again, for gamers who have been around the block to expect more from Nintendo and they have to decided whether to find a middle ground, ignore what people wanted, or pretend that actually care.

    Me, I only have my words and my wallet. You've read my words and for now my wallet is closed.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 7:20 PM
  • Tmidiman

    Too bad people can't have a difference of opinion. Too bad some folks can't have a discussion. But maybe we should just ignore them if they can't have a civil discussion.

    As a Wii owner, and yes it's gathering dust, and yes I've owned Nintendo system since the NES,... Well I'm sorry, but this new Zelda game looks old and dated. I'm sure it will be fun to play and look much better on my 1080p HDTV, but old looking is still old looking.

    I think of it like the original F-Zero. Heck yeah it was fun and looked great years ago. I still own it too. But right now when comparing it to what is out today it would look "dated". Great game, but "dated" and old looking.

    So yeah the new Zelda will be fun and sell millions. But this gamer will most likely pick up something more current and "maybe" get the Zelda game from the bargain bin.

    If I even remember it.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 7:09 PM
  • xplayfan1500

    It makes me mad when people insult Morgan for having a difference of opinion. Espeially from Nintendo fanpeople. What amazes me is you'll put her down, rather than insult or critize the billion dollar company that cares less about you. Hey @kitsumekid go ahead and buy the WiiU on launch day, then after a month. Park it on your shelf next to the Virtual Boy and Power Glove. Nintendo made millions by seperating itself from the mainstream gamers. They gambled on a different type of gamer, and won.

    Besides I don't think Morgan's yawn was intended to show that she's bored with the Zelda series. NOT HATE IT, bored with it. You will all go through it too. When it comes to series either on TV, Movie, or Games. Things change either because you out grow it, or it stagnates. Such some people could say of Zelda. Maybe she thinks (like others) that Zelda is past its prime. And a series prime is subject to the fans and can chage depending on who you talk to. I love the Simpsons, my friends know I'm a Simpsons fan. But we all agree that the Simpsons is past it's prime. (seasons 3-12). Which game is Zelda's prime? I'm sure you'll disagree with others. Leave Morgan alone.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 4:23 PM
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  • cwbys21

    All the little Nintendo fan boys are so cute. Maybe when you are older and don't require mommy and daddy to buy you your consoles, you will realize just why they are so right about Zelda.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 3:40 PM
  • NeutraVega

    NeutraVega's comment is abusive and has been removed.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 3:04 PM
  • keyatzin

    I never liked Wind Waker's art style, but I got used to it, and that game was really good (with some really annoying/cheesy bits). But now Skyward Sword, looks like Wind Waker puked up on Twilight Princess (which I loved, although it did get a little rushed towards the end).
    And based on the Legend of Zelda track record, I should have the utmost confidence in Skyward Sword. But I don't. Everything I see or hear (read), just turns me off. Seriously, what the hell is up with the transgendered-bishonen, Twilight-reject, villain?

    3 years ago I would have said LoZ was one of, if not, my favorite franchise. But Nintendo is making it pretty clear that I'm not exactly their target audience anymore.
    The most excited I've been for LoZ in the past 4 years, was seeing that tech demo for the Wii-U.

    Anyway, I guess the main takeaway from this is that I agree with Morgan, and will probably get flamed accordingly. I really hope it proves me wrong, and I get to dust off my Wii-mote 1 last time.
    Til then though, I'm gonna play the hell out of Batman, Uncharted 3, and Halo Anniversary. And waited eagerly for Mass Effect 3.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 2:59 PM
  • Panda-chan

    seriously though, zelda would be soo much better on the ps3 and 360.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 2:56 PM
  • BrianC6234

    Uh oh, Morgan and Adam have angered the Nintendo fanboys and fangirls. I don't get what people see in Nintendo games. Just the same boring games done over and over again.

    Posted: September 27, 2011 2:18 PM