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Sessler's Soapbox: Best Foot Forward

Posted: August 30, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: Best Foot Forward
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Sessler talks about the how the beginning of a game can often make or break your gaming experience, like in Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

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  • Dredgon

    Happy Birthday, Mr. Sessler, always a pleasure watching your Soapboxes!

    Posted: August 30, 2011 5:28 PM
    Dredgon
  • Memu

    I haven't tried the latest deus ex yet, but in most of these games you don't have to spend your upgrade points immediately. Save them until you need them or know what to do with them. If it seems you are shooting a lot and not hitting anything then you better spend some points on marksmanship, eg. I often get to the end of games without even using all my upgrade points.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 5:08 PM
    Memu
  • ShinjiEx

    I don't know Fallout games had iffy endings that just what happens with game of this type

    I do get what you mean Adam I obsesses over my character skills & choices and what not
    in these games especially Fallout why I play on easy settings for a "casual" play

    But that's what I like though you have to put thought into the game it's not mindless game play from COD/HALO games etc. which have spoiled people

    I hope more games like Fallout/Deus Ex get pushed more often they give you actual bang for your buck!

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:52 PM
    ShinjiEx
  • martyg

    Happy Birthday old man! Anyways....so I haven't had the chance to play this game yet so my opinion doesn't matter too much, but from what I have gathered it seems that this degree of choice would favor replayability, does it not? I guess I could see the frustration if you got to a certain point in the game and you were completely under powered or it turned out to be completely frustrating because of the choices you made. Doesn't mass effect pretty much give you the same kind of options as far as what character class you want to choose from the get go though? Can the game completely suck if you choose the wrong upgrades, because if that's the case, I would like to know in advance so that I can avoid this pitfall. I would hate to go get half way through the game to find out I took the wrong upgrade path.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:51 PM
    martyg
  • drangel_jam

    Happy Bday

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:48 PM
    drangel_jam
  • Hellfire87

    Happy Birthday Adam!

    I just wanted to say Thank you for this podcast. It is my favorite podcast to watch, besides maybe Feedback, mainly because it states these simple facts and opinions about games and that are so often over looked by game designers/developers, gamers and even other critics.

    As a budding programmer/game developer, I truly do appreciate this podcast because to me, it is like a guide as to what I should and should not try to do when I am designing a game. For instance, today's Soapbox being about the dangers of having an unbalanced beginning of a game is very true. I myself, have had this problem with several games where I would start a game, play for about an hour and then realize that the choices I made were horrible and did in fact ruin the game for me. Usually, I would give up on this game for a year or so and then return to it, realizing that it was in fact a good game.

    So, again, Thank you

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:20 PM
    Hellfire87
  • llJOOll

    Take away a cripples crutch, and they cant walk.

    Take away a gamers "sense of security" and they rage quit a game?

    As in life, you live with your decisions. Fortunately for the gamer, in Deus Ex: HR, no matter the choice you make, you will be able to continue. If you want to hack every computer ever in Dues Ex and go that route, you will forgo "combat" or "stealth" augments early on. But that in no way makes the game unplayable or too hard, and the same goes for both other play styles and hybrids. After personally beating Barret,the first boss of the game, with zero combat augments, i can attest to this claim.

    Basically the point I'm making: Regardless of what skills you pick, the game is playable. And not just in one way, but however you see fit. You can stealth without the cloak augment you can shoot-it-up without Dremel Armor or Arm Augments. These things only ENHANCE your chosen play style, but are in no way required to succeed.

    This issue is near irrelevant. The reason it was even brought up is probably because someone found a "flaw" in a near perfect game scarred only by poor voice acting (ie: Christian Bale's Batman as Adam Jensen) and the occasional lengthy load screen.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:06 PM
    llJOOll
  • Javri

    Happy Birthday Adam Sessler! I always remember your hilariousness from the older episodes of X-Play! G4 is not on DirecTv so you need to get that show up on Hulu or something!

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:03 PM
  • ITzTroll

    its like sex, Consistency is key

    Posted: August 30, 2011 4:01 PM
  • AngelsandDemons

    I like that sense of anxiety with RPG's like Fallout Adam. It enforces a sense of committment that real life requires. I remember that moment in Fallout where you have the opportunity to either bumrush the town or fetch and grab some item to gain entrance. I felt so frustrated at another fetch mission that I blew the guy away and infiltrated the base killing all that got in my way with limited ammo. And, when I walked outta of there a hero after one try, that rush of confidence and affirmation in my initial impulse to blow the first man away is the essence of life my friend. Don't worry about it. LIVE IT!!

    Posted: August 30, 2011 3:22 PM
    AngelsandDemons
  • TMach

    I agree to a point, but I think Adam is making too big a deal of this. First, because just about every RPG-style game that has skill points to spend works the same way (and not all allow you to rearrange them later). More importantly though, is the way Deus Ex is meant to be played. You don't have to guess what augmentations you'll need later on in the game because there's no set way you have to solve problems in the game. In other words, you can work out solutions based on the skill set you've chosen. The original Deus Ex was the same way.

    Actually, Human Revolution isn't nearly as extreme about it as the original. If you remember, in the first Deus Ex if you installed the aug for silent running it meant you could "not" install the aug for faster running, for example. At least with Human Revolution, installing one aug does not prevent installing another--it just means you have to wait until you have more Praxis points to do it.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 3:21 PM
    TMach
  • cwbys21

    No one will ever accuse a God of War game of not starting with an attention getter.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 3:12 PM
    cwbys21
  • Irishfists

    While I agree with you to a certain degree I think you are making a bigger deal out of it then it really is. Sure there were some wasted praxis points on my part from not knowing exactly what I wanted, but it did not ruin the experience for me later on or even hinder it. I think the game is one of the best of the year and I think a 4 out of 5 based on this was a little unfair to the game, it really is great in most categories.
    Yes the ability to rearrange your skill points would have been nice, but it was not a necessity and didn't stop me from having a really great time throughout the experience. Actually my only real complaint with the game is the loading times are pretty terrible.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 2:42 PM
    Irishfists
  • Irishfists

    While I agree with you to a certain degree I think you arenmaking a bigger deal out of it then it actually really is. Sure there were some wasted praxis points on my part from not knowing exactly what I wanted, but it did not ruin the experience for me later on or even hinder it. I think the game is one of the best of the year and I think a 4 out of 5 based on this was a little unfair to the game, it really is great in most categories.
    Yes the ability to rearrange your skill points would have been nice, but it was not a necessity and didn't stop me from having a really great throughout the experience. Actually my only real complaint with the game is the loading times are pretty terrible.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 2:40 PM
    Irishfists
  • cardinalsfan1122

    I just finished Deus Ex and I had that feeling in the beginning too when the first Praxis comes that I didn't really know what to do with it. Mainly because i didnt yet know what I was going to need later in the game. Although the game was Fantastic it really kind of shoves you into that position where you don't know what to do and they are asking you to make a decision.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 2:28 PM
    cardinalsfan1122
  • DgenXgaming

    Happy Birthday Adam:)

    Posted: August 30, 2011 2:22 PM
  • nutzViking

    Happy birthday Adam !! If the accumulation of your cellular mitoses - measured in Earth years - is troubling you; may I suggest a bottle of Scotch and a 4-hour session of Child of Eden ? Have a good one.

    Posted: August 30, 2011 2:14 PM
    nutzViking
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