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Sessler's Soapbox: Finish What You Started

Posted: August 23, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: Finish What You Started
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Sessler discusses the recent CNN article that claims only 10% of gamers play their games through to the end of the single player campaign.

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  • g4fan247

    I agree with Adam about this Soapbox. I finished most of the games that I own. I finished the main story in Oblivion and I still play the game sometimes to play the side quests in the game.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 6:15 PM
    g4fan247
  • Stopher121

    The only game in recent memory that I waited for bought and played through but didnt finish was Final Fantasy XIII. I got all the way to the last boss and thought, what the hell am i doing this game is crap and i really dont care how it ends. Normally tho i will play through and finish almost every game i buy and try to do all the extra stuff too.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 6:05 PM
    Stopher121
  • t1mY@h

    at one stage i made an effort to complete my games. Although now i look back on my library, i see a lot of games i haven't finished... some i just lost interest in but i find when i get entranced in a decent games (or a book, tv series for that matter) story and lore, i subconsciously don't want the story to end. (i had my save on the Witcher 2 at the last market area for a week before i finished the game. I knew the ending was imminent and i just wasn't ready for the narrative to end)

    Posted: August 23, 2011 6:02 PM
  • Epaine

    I just got R D Redemption last week and just finished it an hour ago (not 100%, but all the story and about half of the extras)... so I'm one of those people, although I do typically finish at least half of my single player games once I start them (I hate multiplayer outside of MMOs). But typically a single player campaign on a console today has a main storyline, side storylines, and achivements... so actually completing a game 100% is likely a rare event, but I don't think developers expect that.

    I think that 10% number is incorrect, even for RDR, but I'm not suprised that it's below 50% (the later part of the article gives a counterpoint that it's closer to 40 to 50% nowadays). When you look at games in the 80's and how difficult and time consuming those games were VS today with how easy and short most single player games are, I would think that alone would make the number somewhat higher. And it also shows that the developers over time have seen the light and have adapted to play styles. The problem to me has been the $60 price tag on new games and because of that they have to shove in a multiplayer, and non-important extra content/DLC, and achivements, etc... and also they can nickle and dime players through DLC.

    So when you put enough things in to sidetrack a player from the main goal (which seemed to be more than half of what I was doing in RDR) it does take more time to complete, but the single player campaigns have been dumbed down so much that I think it evens out and we may be at a sweet spot of around 40% completion.

    The article tends to blame social networking and the internet, as well as the aging gamer for the lack of completion... but why would one buy into the game if they didn't have the time for it in the first place... especially when one can see the majority of gameplay and endings on youtube?

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:56 PM
    Epaine
  • tealwolfen

    I can't afford to buy a lot of games so I sometimes 20+ hour games for my console, but for my ds there still some games have not beaten yet because i forgot about them guess i will go play them now try not to forget about them Chrono Trigger, Fire Emblem, and Dragon Quest here I come.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:54 PM
    tealwolfen
  • Spybreak

    Yeah, I finished RDR because of the enthusiastic driving story and great characters. Other games yeah I just don't finish because I'm playing another game, lost interest or stuck at one point. You know there are so many games out there that it's really hard to commit to beating one game. That said, I stopped playing Dragon Age 2 and never beat it. I might go back to it but I played other games like Dirt 3 and Portal 2.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:53 PM
    Spybreak
  • FIVEof9

    10%? Where did they get that stat? 90% of people buy a video game with no intention of finishing it? that makes NO sense.I play a lot of games and unless they completely suck i usually finish them. some more research is needed on where they came up wioth that number.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:44 PM
  • Chunky_2336

    i finish all of my games. if i cant finish the game then i return the game. since i didnt like it. and i also go for every achievement for all the games i have

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:28 PM
    Chunky_2336
  • brtt150

    The single player campaign has to be compelling. I still haven't finished the CoD: MW2 single player because I don't find it interesting. Other games, like Uncharted or Assassin's Creed really make me want to finish the story.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:19 PM
    brtt150
  • nuttyprof

    I am sometimes embarased by the fact that I have only completed about 1/3 of the games I own, granted I do have several(especially Bioware RPGs) which I have beaten multiple times.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:14 PM
    nuttyprof
  • Flight_Eagle

    Isn't a purpose of Video Games... to waste time? I should say spend time, actually. Wasting time would be doing nothing at all, or something for the sake of nothing. And yes Adam. Generally when people achievement "whore", they are doing it for the achievements.

    I prefer the term "Hunt", actually. When i go for achievements, it's usually because I have nothing else to do, or some similar situation. Whoring would be when you forsake other, perhaps important things. I'm getting a job soon, so i won't have as much time to spend doing the things I like. But if anything, my games last longer when I have something else to do. Ok, I never sell my games anymore, and i go back to them every now and again and have fun, so i guess that's not too accurate.

    Sorry if there was some preachy or hostile stuff in there. It's not supposed to be. Text is hard to emote.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:09 PM
    Flight_Eagle
  • MelodieM

    Great just great. Stupid website triple posted my comment. Lame.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:09 PM
  • MelodieM

    I finish games if they are set up to allow me to within reason. There are only so many times I can die and play the same part over again before I curse the TV and throw the controller across the room (i.e. LBP1 fracking Wheel of Death!). More often that not, I choose games for their rich content (ES series, Fallout 3, HL2, AC 1 and 2, ME 1 and 2, etc.) which makes them completion worthy. Case in point, I just played Portal 2 again (both single and multiplayer) because I was feeling nostalgic. So worth it!

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:08 PM
  • MelodieM

    I finish games if they are set up to allow me to within reason. There are only so many times I can die and play the same part over again before I curse the TV and throw the controller across the room (i.e. LBP1 fracking Wheel of Death!). More often that not, I choose games for their rich content (ES series, Fallout 3, HL2, AC 1 and 2, ME 1 and 2, etc.) which makes them completion worthy. Case in point, I just played Portal 2 again (both single and multiplayer) because I was feeling nostalgic. So worth it!

    Posted: August 23, 2011 5:05 PM
  • MelodieM

    I finish games if they are set up to allow me to within reason. There are only so many times I can die and play the same part over again before I curse the TV and throw the controller across the room, (i.e. Little Big Planet 1 fracking wheel of death!). More often than not, I choose games for their rich content (HL2, Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls series, AC 1 and 2, ME 1 and 2, etc.) which makes them completion worthy. Case in point, I just played Portal 2 again because I was feeling a little nostalgic. So worth it.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 4:58 PM
  • Mazorazer43

    First off, this is a topic of great debate and I'm gald it came up. Really the article from CNN I do not think can be considered entirely legitmate like Adam said, What portion of the gamers interviewed in this article played games online more than the they played the single player campaigns? I mean realistically, I understand that more than ever I probably will out be to play games as much as possible but that will make my gaming experience more enjoyable because I have to cherish those moments. However unlike some of the people mention in the article, or study, I will not sacrifice my single player for the quick fix of multiplayer.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 4:53 PM
    Mazorazer43
  • johnnybebop

    I never finished FFX, I still regret never doing it.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 4:52 PM
  • rGrayMiller

    A: An incredible 5 hours. Although not exclusively, and I'd think "incredible" would be fairly rare anyways.

    Either way, I nearly always finish a game I start. The ones I haven't stick out in my memory for that very reason (Zelda 2 probably being the oldest - Shadow Link, you ASS). It's a habit that has stuck with me for 20 years, and I think it's served me well.

    I'm also sure it's led to me being labeled an "achievement whore" a million times over (I'll break 200K in a couple months or so). That's fine, we all play differently - my appreciation isn't tainted. I think the majority of games reveal fairly quickly what they're all about (some would say they must by definition), but I also think you often gain a certain level of insight by being able to look back from the finish line. Good games and bad games. DNF is considered "bad", but good gosh how much was there to say (and learn) about it?

    One of those issues on the cusp of gaming evolution, for sure.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 4:12 PM
    rGrayMiller
  • DPsx72

    There are a few reasons. Lack of good gameplay or original content throughout. People may not have as much time. Or they just don't stick with games before playing the next because a lot of good games release at once. I'm sure multiplayer gaming is part of the problem too.

    Me? I finish everything up until the credits. I may not get the plat trophy on all my games but play nearly everything through the initial story mode on normal. In doing so I get way behind in playing recent games, that's my side of the problem.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 4:01 PM
    DPsx72
  • chad78

    Usually I want to finish the game. There are some games that I haven't finished because they weren't good enough to hold my attention, but I usually finish my games. I've finished a good number of games that lasted over 100 hours each - and not out of some sense of duty to the game, but because I wanted to finish the story. Final Fantasies, Fallouts, etc.

    That said - I still haven't finished Super Mario 64. I've played and beat the final level, but I didn't go from start to finish without cheating or using someone else's saved game.

    I also play casual games on my iPhone. So, I'm weird I guess.

    Posted: August 23, 2011 4:01 PM
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