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Sessler's Soapbox: The Next Generation of Handheld Gaming

Posted: August 16, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: The Next Generation of Handheld Gaming
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Adam discusses why he thinks handheld gaming systems like the Nintendo 3DS and the Playstation Vita might be facing an uphill battle.

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  • OmegaBrett

    Loved the quick jab at the music industry at the end! Awesome!

    Posted: August 19, 2011 1:43 AM
    OmegaBrett
  • R3$0n8

    Vita will be out for people who pre order on Dec. 31, 2k11.

    Also. The moderator on this board is broken. It keeps telling me not to use profanity, and none was being used...

    Posted: August 19, 2011 12:44 AM
  • Grimble

    As for the cell phone man purse Adam was talking about. How about the under coat cell/game holster much like under cover cop gun holsters?

    Posted: August 18, 2011 6:23 AM
    Grimble
  • lataurean

    I have to agree with everything that was said here.

    Posted: August 17, 2011 7:34 PM
  • DikDik_Swish

    Quick note for Patrick Roche-Sowa: You forgot to add a "Sessler's Soapbox" tag to this post; it's not showing up under http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/bl og/tag/301/sesslers-soapbox/

    Posted: August 17, 2011 7:00 AM
    DikDik_Swish
  • omegasun73

    It's all about control,you can put any game on a cell phone but it wont be good as a handheld because of it.

    Posted: August 17, 2011 1:29 AM
    omegasun73
  • hoof_hearted4

    my first handheld was the Gamboy color. Pokemon and Pokemon Only. found a SP on the side of the road, but nvr bought games just replayed my Gold/Silver/Crystal. bought a PSP a couple years after it came out, enjoyed it for a few months and then never touched it for like a year. recently traded it in for a 3DS. i of course got the remake of Pokemon Gold! enjoying it very much. sucks to hear about the price drops a fews weeks after i bought it, but at least Nintendo did something cool about it. there are a lot of games im interested in for the 3DS. though they are third priority after my PS3 and PC. i can sit there any play Pokemon for hours, but i got the 3DS to kill time before classes at college.....as for mobile gaming, ive dabbled in it. ive been in a car, got bored, played a game (usually a Tower defense) usually beat it then ya. im not a big cell phone gamer. the problem the PSP had was it tried to be a console in your hands, and the games were too much for the handheld (ie only one analog stick) im not excited about the Vita at all tbh. i have a real console i can play on and i want to play my games on that over a handheld. the thing i like about the 3DS is that the games know they are on a handheld. they arent overly complex, they dont try to be a full console game or anything.

    Posted: August 17, 2011 12:20 AM
    hoof_hearted4
  • TheLoCoRaven

    I thought I was done with handheld systems. The last one I got was the DS Lite. But I got a job in a network operations center and work overnight. I have about a 40min-1hour chunk of free time, every hour, at my job. So yea, I think i'll probably pick up the Vita.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 10:55 PM
    TheLoCoRaven
  • hogposh

    My thoughts exactly. I agree 100% with Adam on this one. I only use my PSP when I travel and those smartphone games are not fun to play. I prefer the console experience when I am at home. That being said, I think that the Vita is something I will find useful. It seems to have the mature games I am looking for. However, we shall have to wait and see.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 9:46 PM
    hogposh
  • thesilentmole

    The DS was one of my favorite video game system, period. I have absolutely loved a large number of games for it. But it was a slow burn. Out of that first year of titles, I think I only have about 5 that really stuck. I think the 3DS will start gaining momentum soon.

    The Vita, on the other hand, I think will just be doing the same thing the PSP did. It'll have some tinier, less competent versions of big games on the PS3, that will be pretty awesome if it's your only system, but won't really grow out into it's own.

    As for mobile phones, I love my Nexus S, but past Fruit Ninja, Words with Friends, and Game Dev Story...there's not a lot there that keeps my attention for more than a few minutes.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 8:09 PM
    thesilentmole
  • thejman85

    well spoken Adam i have the 3ds i bought it at launch and am not happy nintendo sucks forget wii u

    Posted: August 16, 2011 7:21 PM
    thejman85
  • Aaron82

    I only play my handhelds at home.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 7:04 PM
    Aaron82
  • FuzzofPekinopolis

    I just don't understand why everybody has to be connected 24/7.

    I love console gaming, I have uncountable hours with a controller in my hand. I have played almost every highly rated game that has come to consoles in the past 25yrs. except PS3 which I will be getting with the new price drop. But when I hit the off switch I am usually satisfied with my gaming experience for that day.

    I love games, but I don't want to play them all the time or everywhere I go. Life is the most realistic game you can play, and you might find something outside you are good at if you set the controller down for a bit and interact with something real.

    I'm just saying that I don't need games everywhere. I need them at home with a big screen, something to drink, and a snack.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 4:04 PM
    FuzzofPekinopolis
  • Rowdie

    I think the vita might fair a bit better vs idevices as it fills the space for a portable console. I don't see that portable console market growing though even with the addition of a second analog stick. So for some core gamers looking to get their fix on the move the vita is the answer. Thing is that market has proven to be a small part of portable gaming as a whole. That market which has been owned by nintendo since the intro of the gameboy brick is most certainly going to the idevices. They seem to not only be taking that market but growing it. And longer term sony and the vita could also face the same fate as there's sure to be compelling "real" gaming experiences coming to a tablet near you. Rage, Civ:Rev, and some racing titles are already showing the way.

    Penny Arcade hit on a great point in its strip, you buy one 3ds game and I'll buy forty ipad games and we'll see who has more fun.

    @atavax, parents don't seem to care if their kid is playing with a smart phone. In fact all the kids that were nintendo's core audience, that begged and pleaded and got every new nintendo portable or otherwise is now asking for some idevice and near as I can tell they're all getting them. It's hard for me to remember the last time I saw a kid with a new portable, easily 12 kids with new idevices come to mind.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 3:35 PM
    Rowdie
  • Memu

    Two sticks is good, but it still has only one L and one R button. Plus, the analog sticks on these things are nothing like the sticks on the PS3 controller. Having tried a PSP, the analog stick is weird and difficult to get used to. Point is that experience playing the vita handheld is still not going to be like playing with full controller. So I wish you would quit saying that. The fact is that they want the experience to be different to sell more hardware. Hence all the additional touchy feely crap.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 3:17 PM
    Memu
  • Memu

    Two sticks is good, but it still has only one L and one R button. Plus, the analog sticks on these things are nothing like the sticks on the PS3 controller. Having tried a PSP, the analog stick is weird and difficult to get used to. Point is that experience playing the vita handheld is still not going to be like playing with full controller. So I wish you would quit saying that. The fact is that they want the experience to be different to sell more hardware. Hence all the additional touchy feely crap.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 3:14 PM
    Memu
  • Rowdie

    I think the vita might fair a bit better vs idevices as it fills the space for a portable console. I don't see that portable console market growing though even with the addition of a second analog stick. So for some core gamers looking to get their fix on the move the vita is the answer. Thing is that market has proven to be a small part of portable gaming as a whole. That market which has been owned by nintendo since the intro of the gameboy brick is most certainly going to the idevices. They seem to not only be taking that market but growing it. And longer term sony and the vita could also face the same fate as there's sure to be compelling "real" gaming experiences coming to a tablet near you. Rage, Civ:Rev, and some racing titles are already showing the way.

    Penny Arcade hit on a great point in its strip, you buy one 3ds game and I'll buy forty ipad games and we'll see who has more fun.

    @atavax, parents don't seem to care if their kid is playing with a smart phone. In fact all the kids that were nintendo's core audience, that begged and pleaded and got every new nintendo portable or otherwise is now asking for some idevice and near as I can tell they're all getting them. It's hard for me to remember the last time I saw a kid with a new portable, easily 12 kids with new idevices come to mind.

    Posted: August 16, 2011 3:10 PM
    Rowdie
  • Cathartic Denoument

    The new "Transfarring" system that will be implemented in the PSV's will be it's edge against the 3DS, and will be what will save handheld gaming as a whole.
    And if Nintendo can shift focus away from the 3D function of the 3DS, towards games using Augmented Reality, then they might have a chance of saving the 3DS.

    Transfarring + Augmented Reality = Longevity/Future of Handheld Gaming

    Posted: August 16, 2011 3:00 PM
    Cathartic+Denoument
  • qwimple

    CARGO PANTS!!!!!

    Posted: August 16, 2011 2:48 PM
  • OuroborosChoked

    I'm so glad Adam chose this topic. I think all the talk about the smartphone / app market games outselling portable games overlooks several key points, many of which Adam touched on. Specifically, the games aren't enjoyable. I'm in constant fear that the big development companies will view the app market as the next big wave and abandon console gaming... completely ignoring the fact that the ONLY reason sales are so high for app market games is because they're dirt cheap... and focusing only on the fact that they're quick and easy to develop and there's a high return for minimal investment. I like REAL gaming on the go. I don't play app games. They control like crap, the content's not stimulating... basically, you get what you pay for.

    That being said, Nintendo really did drop the ball on the 3DS because, as Mr. Iwata noted, there were no launch titles worth owning (and I'd argue that there still aren't any) and really - who asked for 3D? All of my favorite reviewers complain about headaches using the 3D... and demoing it myself, I can see why. Plus, they released it RIGHT AFTER the DSi XL model. Did they really think people were going to buy YET ANOTHER DS?

    The Vita, on the other hand, is something I'm definitely looking forward to. I am a big fan of console-style gaming on the go. The PSP delivered on that... and by the way things are looking, the Vita will too. It IS what I asked for. And perhaps most importantly: it has an appealing lineup!

    Posted: August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
    OuroborosChoked
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