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Sessler's Soapbox: Call of Duty Elite

Posted: May 31, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: Call of Duty Elite
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Adam discusses the recent announcement that Activision will offer a premium online multiplayer service for Call of Duty.

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  • Madbagofhorses

    Is this to make up for Activision's near-non-existant match making system? I mean it gets you in games... but they take zero consideration for matching like-skill.

    Now they will... if you pay them? Man, if I had a nickle for everytime I've wished I could slap someone through the internet.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 1:33 PM
    Madbagofhorses
  • Madbagofhorses

    Just like the concept of DLC and most expansion packs the idea of developing content in tandem with a parent product and not including it in that parent product is asinine.

    Glad I put CoD and my desire to play it behind me after MW2. It wasn't long-lived even with that iteration.

    I sincerely hope that this service provides a money sink for Activision and nothing else, lest other (cough EA cough) moronically-business driven publishers follow suit.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 1:31 PM
    Madbagofhorses
  • EarstotheGround

    Street drug peddlars in the 80's used to offer their 'customers' cheap/free goods to get them addicted, and become a slave to the drug.

    Activision offering to allow gamers to sign up for this service for free (to start) reminds me of the same tactic. I say a quality product shouldnt need sales gimicks or lead ins.

    And they are offering Stat tracking?

    - Heat Maps? - So you know that the tool who raped you in the previous game shot you in the groin 24 times?

    - Gun Stats? - So you know the game you played with that submachine gun with 3 kills and 24 deaths sucked?

    - Where you died/made kills most often? 75-80% of the time, you probably died/made kills at a pre-determined/designed choke point/s on the map. Otherwise, its mostly random as people just run around with no sense of tactics or front-lines

    - Meeting people with similar interests? Comn now, do we need a game service for this? Ok, maybe only for the 'smoking hot gamer chicks' category

    This service may be worth it for gamers who play solely in clans and want to play for rewards, but should be a big PASS for the average gamer. EPIC FAIL Activision.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 12:44 PM
    EarstotheGround
  • 2ply

    I'm more concerned with what this will lead to in the future.

    Once developers catch wind of people paying additional monthly subscription fee's for their games, everyone is going to want a piece of that.

    I feel that will eventually lead to very bad things for all of us. Thinking MMO structured sub fee's for online access, or something similar to hybrid F2P games that also have a subscription/cashshop option to wreak substantial benefits over those who do not pay for those.

    That is not something I want to see intregated into my $60-70 console games.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 12:36 PM
    2ply
  • TheGrimRocker

    As far as competitve gaming goes. Not really sure what to think. I mean there's gamebattles, which (to my knowledge) is a free service which pretty much does the same thing. Minus the stat tracking. But I mean, the majority of the stats stuff is in the CoD player card, which is IN THE GAME. It shows heat maps, weapon statistics and all that jazz. So...Why have the added service? I mean if they made it just to support the community that's one thing. But they're making people pay for it?

    We've seen different companies do stat tracking for free, and different companies have ranked tournaments for free. In other words, everything offered by CoD Elite, is pretty much free somewhere else. I don't see why Activision expects people to pay for this.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 12:20 PM
    TheGrimRocker
  • MaceMan2091

    To all of you who complain about a business trying to appeal to the hardcore audience in their franchise, don't pay for the service! Simple as that. Better yet, don't buy the game if you really want to hurt them. That's a much better message than whining.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 11:39 AM
    MaceMan2091
  • DAMG0014

    Bungie has been doing for free since Halo 2. And the thing about those game is that they have a longer lifespan than, the now yearly, Call of Duty franchise.

    The tools were not just there for the users but for the developer as well; it allowed Bungie to revise the game, make new playlists, and just keep it fresh. That makes sense when your game is played for years, not a year.

    Having a deep stat tracking system is great, but it's pointless for those with short attention spans. And that happens to be the case for both the developers and the players of Call of Duty.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 10:49 AM
    DAMG0014
  • Blakep267

    I see it as for people who really like online shooters. If you do love shooters, than you really wouldnt mind about the service. I remember a few years ago when I was big into shooters and was part of a clan and stuff that played competitively, this wouldve been a useful service. Its not for everybody, mainly hardcore people.

    Id love to be able to have private rooms where we can have team tournaments and stuff

    Posted: June 1, 2011 10:30 AM
    Blakep267
  • yagamilighto

    It's comical to me how many of you say you won't be getting it because of the subscription fee but it's not like you won't be able to do everything your doing ow in cod for free. It's just that for an extra 5 bucks every month you get better stat tracking and a few perks like automatically receiving DLC's. I honestly believe that you guys right now are just shell-shocked, if you've been a fan of cod for a while, this won't change anything. Mark My Words

    Posted: June 1, 2011 10:25 AM
    yagamilighto
  • Dexter111

    Yup... it's a great way to make money...

    Like Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk where they made money with bi-annual releases and DLC out of their ass... but oh wait... they killed those two franchises for the same reason...

    This kind of "profiteering however one can" and not giving back or caring about the people that are your customers at all is a VERY short-term kind of thinking.
    There are different ways to make money... there's this way and then there is the way of say Valve or CDProjekt that nurture both a community and their partners and keep them happy and coming back for years on end...

    I just wish there were more "console players" realizing that they have the power and stopped buying into this over and over again so this trend could be stopped earlier than the 10th+ installment of basically the same game...

    Posted: June 1, 2011 9:19 AM
    Dexter111
  • lowkevmic

    People will always want something for nothing as if they are supposed to be rewarded for playing a video game or something. Everything costs money, but for some reason someone is a bad guy for charging a fee in order for people to use their service. Adam made a great point when he briefly touched on the difference between XBL and PSN. You pay a fee so that the service can be well maintained and constantly bringing people what they want. When you get for free, you get what you pay for.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 8:55 AM
    lowkevmic
  • SPE825

    I've always been a CoD fan, but seeing this and how great BF3 is looking (and how bad blops was), I 'm pretty sure I will be moving to the BF franchise. I am sure I will still get MW3 eventually, but I sure as heck won't be paying for this service.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 7:47 AM
    SPE825
  • SonyNmbrOneGuy

    Sessler is way off on this one. He's basically saying that the glitches and bugs that have plagued cod since the beginning will magically go away thanks to CoD Elite subscription fees. Activision was never concerned with fixing glitches of dealing with cheaters. You'd think paying $15 for maps and the billion dollars in profit for Blops and MW2 would be incentive enough for them do their jobs properly but now you have to pay a fee to get what other receive for free. Bungie didn't beg for money to fix glitches or deal with chearers in Reach, but it's fine when it's CoD...

    He also thinks games should be either sp or mp to preserve quality of one or the other. Again, who is this guy speaking for? We pay full retail price for FULL games. The expectation is that both parts will be the best they can be. Sessler needs to start thinking like a gamer again and less like an industry guy.

    Lastly, if you watch Feedback every week, the PSN jab should not surprise you. Notice he didn't bring up Steam, which is better than both XBL and PSN...and completely free, just like Bungie.net. His justification for paying $60 is year is what...You get what you pay for. Keep telling yourself that. I'll keep using my free PSN and free Steam.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 7:27 AM
    SonyNmbrOneGuy
  • Naruzam

    to be honest i don't care about it as long other games don't try this model, i understand why this is being done but i have call of duty fatigue since MW2 came out i don't feel there is good reason to invest so much time into it since there will be a new next year.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 5:31 AM
    Naruzam
  • Goddhand

    I seriously thought, given the trends of anti-piracy and the reviews of L.A. Noire, that Sess was going to come out bashing the online community and ranting about how Activision deserves all the money they can get. I was prepared to swear off soapboxes for a year. I am so, so grateful that didn't happen.

    Teh Sess kept it low key, and he's opened my eyes a bit. There's not a ton of info on this new subscription service, and there is a chance always the chance that, hey, maybe the gaming population at large WON'T bite on added stats and the service will fail. But I will say this...if we can count on anything, its that both the gaming industry and the underground will have a strong reaction to mandatory charged content and subscription services. Don't cry for your empty wallets just yet, kids.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 4:33 AM
    Goddhand
  • Lifendz

    Great vid. Just some quick points:

    You mentioned that this subscription will most likely appeal to a very hardcore segment of COD gamers, a point I agree with. But then you said that when you pay for a subscription you can expect a better online experience, a point you elucidated by mentioning XBL vs. PSN. I'm just a little confused here. If only a small segment of COD gamers are going to get this service, then is the improved/more stable performance reserved for them?

    And I think saying that the fee for this service will be nominal is a bit naive. Nothing about COD is nominal. The friggin DLC is among the most expensive this gen.

    I'm sure all the info isn't available yet, but this just points to a future pay to play online model that will push a lot of people right into the arms of EA and Battlefield 3.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 1:55 AM
    Lifendz
  • Gilby Martinez

    Call of Duty Elite = Bungie.net, but will it be better? only time will tell.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 1:34 AM
  • Foeley

    The @rseholes who stay forever at the top most level, with all the guns and perks and never prestige up. The campers, boosters, modders and other "cheats", make them pay.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 12:52 AM
    Foeley
  • Geomancy

    CoD Elite sounds a lot like Bungie's stat-trackings on Halo, only now it will be reserved for the paying elite. I wonder if Bungie and Microsoft aren't kicking themselves for not going this route earlier.

    That being said, this isn't as bad as I expected it to be. Gamers like me who play CoD online for 30-60 hours per annual release won't have to pay more; I can reach Prestige and leave the game behind. Those who play it hardcore every day for several months on end can take it a step deeper for a nominal price.

    I have no problem with companies making profits on services they provide. If someone wants to play CoD hundreds of hours, pay the fee and enjoy the endless kills. For the rest of us, we paid the $60 and we still get our seasonal thrill.

    Is it a step towards the extortion of gamers who wish to play multiplayer? Probably. But then again, CoD isn't the only good game in town. Vote with your feet...play Halo.

    Posted: June 1, 2011 12:35 AM
    Geomancy
  • ConGraSta

    i think activision is making the right step with this, hopefully their will be lobbys for eilte subscribers and so on to weed out the litte kids, maybe even beta exclusives.... that be moving in the right direction let us test your multiplayer b4 it comes out and their wont be as many problems. i could careless about stat tracking and so on but if it offers a better community and some really good perks i might get back into CoD so beta's, map packs, better replay system, complete control over icons, better community and u might sell me

    Posted: June 1, 2011 12:33 AM
    ConGraSta
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