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Sessler's Soapbox: LA Noire Got it Right, You Got it Wrong

Posted: May 24, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: LA Noire Got it Right, You Got it Wrong
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Adam discusses the finer points of LA Noire and the gaming public's reaction to it.

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  • keithwink

    I loved this game. What I don't like is how much Adam Sessler stutters when he goes on his diatribes. He reminds me of Jon Cryer in Two and a Half Men.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 4:03 PM
    keithwink
  • iGuy

    I enjoy the game for the most part but if I had to complain about something it wouldn't be that it was too short, if anything, it might be little too long. There are times where the game feels like a bit of a grind and while the copycat/serial killer narrative may make for a compelling story I think it falls short of great when you implement it in game form. Because of the interactive nature of games it seems to get repetitive when each case only seems slightly varied from the last. I like for the action to change up i bit more than what the game does offer but a good time nonetheless.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:57 PM
    iGuy
  • 2ply

    Off topic, but.. Thank god, someone else who wasn't at all impressed with Thor!

    Start reviewing movies Adam!!

    After seeing it though, the only conclusion I could come to is that it was only made because of the tie-in to the upcoming Avengers movie. I saw no other reason why anyone thought ANY of it was a good idea.

    Without spoiling it's nonsense, there were a few good parts when he "arrived" but the rest of it was just.. existing words can't even describe what I witnessed.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:54 PM
    2ply
  • BoydofZINJ

    I am more of a computer gamer than a console one. I do have an XBOX and a PS3, though. Never-the-less, I am glad we are finally reaching a point where video games are not simply grouped up as action based 50+ hours of multiplayer action games like Diablo (yes I know its an action based RPG), Call of Duty, Battlefield, or what have you.

    I view video games the same way I view movies: it is entertainment. Do I want to see an action adrenaline-pumping movie or do I want to see a more a more mature movie that has plot and story elements and very little action? Do I want a hybrid? Some plot with some action? Do I want to see an independent movie with a smaller budget, but possibly a better story?

    Those questions can be asked about video games nowadays. Keep in mind, there are few mature video games that has very little action and a great deal of plot and story elements. I look forward to more LA Noire type games. I am hoping most will not be old fashion detective stories, but a few modern or fantasy (or even sci-fi) adult stories that have well defined plots, story elements, character development, and sense of direction as LA Noire. I know many will argue that Mass Effect 2 or StarCraft 2 (the single player Campaign) have those elements. I will argue, they are great video games and do tell a great stories. However, those games still lacked in story and are more action based than story based.

    Until more LA Noire type games come out, I will be playing more Mass Effect 2, StarCraft 2, and Battlefield until then. I almost forgot, "Via la LA Noire."

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:47 PM
    BoydofZINJ
  • xplayfan1500

    I'll help you out a little Adam. I recently found an old collection of Starlog magazine. In one issue was a review of Ghostbusters. Within the first few paragraphs the writer is in disbelief as to why Ghostbusters is doing so well at the box office. He writes that it must be black magic or the work of Satan that makes Ghostbusters so watchable. Not the story, or comedy, or special effects. Nowadays we like to put Ghostbusters on one of those pedestals of a great, fun to watch movie. But obviously there were some critics who weren't so impressed. Just to use a more recent film instead of Dr. Strangelove since I think most of the auidence hasn't seen it. Or will watch it because it's black and white.

    Also I think you or G4 asked what other games would people like to see L.A. Noire spawn. I had an idea that I would like to see the L.A. Noire engine spawn into a "first responder" experience. Looking at the recent tornado disasters, it must take a certain degree of detective work to find survivors. Recover bodies, and identify them, to help evacuate buildings on fire. Just a thought.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:31 PM
  • roehn117

    i have to say i found the play time of 20 hours just right, the way the game played made it feel like it was longer then it was, maybe because there was the intense focus required but when i thought i was at 15 hours i was only at 10 and when i thought i was at 20 i was only at fifteen. the game has a way of making you feel more involved, making the time you spend more fulfilling then all the hours spent in ffxii for example

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:29 PM
    roehn117
  • greeknerd

    L.A. Noire was a fantastic game. It lost a bit of steam towards the middle but it picked up again a mission and a half later. Great game.

    P.S.
    ...but Thor was amazing!

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:25 PM
    greeknerd
  • castle984464

    its odd to me that every woman in the game that i have come across so far is played by the same person.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:25 PM
    castle984464
  • Madav

    You are The Geek, Adam! And I mean that in the utmost respectful and loving way. =P

    Great point, I just wish more people would see it your way (not your opinion, but your logic) and at the least take a class in philosophy to better understand this stuff; learn how to discern between what somebody is telling them and what that underlying disposition is. Then sift through all that bull and form their own informed opinion (key ingredient here) so that they may take part in a logical and ethical discussion. So sick of all the name calling and apples/oranges comparisons.

    Anyway, it's a pleasure to hear your viewpoint as always; whether I agree with your opinion on a game or what have you, at least you're able to reason with the best of them--for that I admire you.

    P.S. If by chance somebody with connections reads this, any chance G4 could reopen negotiations with DirecTV and figure out a compromise so us loyal customers can get our beloved G4 channel back? And I'm sure most would agree, it's been far too long and following on this website just isn't the same.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:18 PM
    Madav
  • Blue_Vortex

    To me a game is both interactive art and a toy at the same time.
    Adam, I recommend you try (though I wouldn't be surprised if you already played it) The Grave Yard (Demo is on Steam).

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:17 PM
    Blue_Vortex
  • crazyfooinc

    I don't care what anyone says; LA Noire is the best game I've played this year, and possibly even of all time. It is a masterpiece in all senses of the word, and I can't stop playing! :-D

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:13 PM
    crazyfooinc
  • Fenyx76

    Quality > quantity. Every time.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:12 PM
  • Avearys333

    Thank you Mr. Sessler for once again expounding on the nature of makind's concept of value. Some see quality in quantity (your Les Miserables reference is pointedly accurate) and some understand how our perceptions of the themes being presented in the material can color and shape the reaction we have to what we are experiencing. The former group will never be satisfied, I fear, for no matter how much content a game developer packs into a title there will always be a dissatisfied consumer out there who feels they could have included more (quests, items, levels, etc). Hopefully L.A. Noire will be a turning point where the gaming world as a whole learned to give more respect to the story and characters, rather than eschewing the finer points of narrative in favor of more action-packed, mindless drivel.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:11 PM
    Avearys333
  • yayap001

    Its kind of a rule that Stanley Kubrick films where not considered classics till 20 years after they where released.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:09 PM
    yayap001
  • Morinth

    Seriously, all of the 'criticism' this game is getting is only making me want to play it. The things about it that set it apart from what people were expecting make the game much more intriguing to me. I like the idea of a game that isn't just the latest product in a standard genre.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:08 PM
    Morinth
  • Morinth

    Seriously, all of the 'criticism' this game is getting is only making me want to play it. The things about it that set it apart from what people were expecting make the game much more intriguing to me. I like the idea of a game that isn't just the latest product in a standard genre.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:06 PM
    Morinth
  • Morinth

    Seriously, all of the 'criticism' this game is getting is only making me want to play it. The things about it that set it apart from what people were expecting make the game much more intriguing to me. I like the idea of a game that isn't just the latest product in a standard genre.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 3:03 PM
    Morinth
  • NOhara24

    L.A. Noire is a beautiful game. These people wouldn't be complaining if they could just whip out their pistol and mow down pedestrians like they could in GTA. The only qualm I have about the game is that there is a bit of a disconnect between when accusing someone of a lie and picking the correct piece of evidence. Mainly because when you pick "lie", the game doesn't clarify what specifically you think that they're lying about. Other than that, wonderful game.

    Posted: May 24, 2011 2:54 PM
    NOhara24
  • crazyfooinc

    I don't care what anyone says; LA Noire is the best game I've played this year, and possibly even of all time. It is a masterpiece in all senses of the word, and I can't stop playing! :-D

    Posted: May 24, 2011 2:52 PM
    crazyfooinc
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