Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS and Other BS

Posted: March 29, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS and Other BS
Adam talks about how he sees the 3DS, Kinect, and Move as signs that the games industry is putting technology before creativity.

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  • magozel

    six years ago almost everybody was laughing about the wii's motion controllers and graphics even Adam, but years passed and now we had kinect and psmove so wtf??.... and yeah technology matters when it comes to which console has better graphics, capabilities, dlc and others things....
    but really stop that 3d crap and make good games Nintendo !!!

    Posted: April 26, 2011 11:59 PM
  • RonnyGunz

    I created an account just to disagree with something Sessler said. How can you argue that the way we listen to music hasn't changed? Even in the last couple of years, with the advent of smart phones, we're capable of buying albums or listening to streaming music from services like Pandora, Last.fm or Grooveshark which are capable of tailoring the queues with music based on our responses to songs we'd previously listened to. To a greater extent, movies on netflix's watch instantly service. And to say that reading hasn't changed with the introduction of affordable e-readers, some featuring the ability to use 3g connections to download books nearly anywhere, or store thousands of books in one small package seems to downplay the advances being made there.

    However I feel about the 3DS is rather irrelevant, I'm not being paid to spout off about it. If the only argument made, however, is that the other forms of media haven't changed; I'd say that Sessler has a lot more reading to do.

    Posted: April 13, 2011 12:22 AM
  • Stellos5

    Well said. I agree totally. To go a bit further on this topic I have to say that the whole 3D HDTV gimick is getting old real fast as well. 3D was cool in the 80's, but it died for good reason. People will soon be sick of the 3D stuff and be back to real high definition within a couple years. Now hologram images would be impressive, but 3D? Please....

    Posted: April 7, 2011 1:45 PM
  • Bloodthr0e

    Motion control can't be a passing fad if it's still alive and well after 5 years. Besides, there will ALWAYS be that audience that wants to play shooters with a lightgun/motion-controller. The problem was that in the past, light guns weren't effective enough for serious shooting games. With the Move available and the technology perfected, we can now expect it to take off.

    As for the 3D, we may not see a lot of quality developers want anything to do with it, much like the Wii, but I think the Wii failed because it is hardly more powerful than a last gen console. The 3DS should have sufficient technology to recieve the same type of games the PSP has been receiving. Plus, if 3D is so easy to tack onto a movie, it should be no problem to tack it onto a lot of games that are high quality without it.

    Posted: April 5, 2011 4:31 PM
  • Svederik

    I honestly believe that this whole 3D and motion control debacle is only a passing fad. At least I hope so anyways. True gaming is how it always has been, with a controller, on a couch. Every now and then I do enjoy a good session of Wii Sports with my grandma. There are other ways to enjoy gaming, I often enjoy playing Lego Star Wars with my mom, or even Worms 2 Armageddon. Like I says, it's only a fad... hopefully.

    Posted: April 5, 2011 10:19 AM
  • Swolern

    Huge fan Sessler, but I have to disagree with you on this one. I believe technology and gaming go hand in hand. The newer glasses-free 3d feels like the next step in the evolution of gaming, and I love it. I do believe that 3d has not been used to it's full potential yet in gaming and we will be seeing some pretty interesting games using 3d in a whole new way. I believe all of this new tech is just the next step towards that holy grail, holodeck gaming, that I saw on Star Trek when I was a kid.

    Posted: April 5, 2011 1:28 AM
  • cherryghost41

    Adam, you are one of the few video game journalist whose opinion I really respect. That's being said, I couldn't disagree more with you about the 3DS. As far as the Wii, Kinect and Move trying to change the way games are played, you are absolutely correct. It is still up in the air as to whether motion based games will be the future of gaming or not. Games absolutely have been working just fine for years with good old fashion controllers. I honestly prefer it that way. I don't however think it's fair to lump the 3DS in there with the previously mentioned technology. The 3DS is changing nothing about the way we traditionally play games. At least not anymore than the DS did, anyway. One is still using a portable device with buttons, analog stick and a touchscreen to play a game. The only thing the 3DS has changed is how the game is viewed or perceived, and the beautiful thing about it is that you don't even have to use the new feature if you don't want to.

    In the past you have mentioned that you thought it was a mistake for Nintendo to rush the 3DS out before it had a solid line-up of games for launch, and I do agree with that completely. However, I think that is the only mistake the big N has made with this system. I got Pilotwings and Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars, both of which are very fun, challenging games so far, and the 3D has nothing to do with that. I have no doubt that the quality games will come in time, just like they did with the DS.

    Posted: April 4, 2011 2:49 PM
  • omnalink3

    completely off topic some one is actually trying for a Zelda movie http://www.thezeldaproject.net /
    i understand that ign made the April fools joke in 2008 but check this out!

    Posted: April 3, 2011 1:33 AM
  • Spybreak

    Eh I'm sorry without the technology you don't have the inspiration to go and do more thus greating great games like Half Life 2, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed 2 and Uncharted 2. That said I feel it's still too soon to call out the 3DS, Kinect or Move as more and more developers will get their hands on experience with them we'll get good games down the line.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 12:12 PM
  • dixiedog

    I really love your videos, they clear up so much crap and you cover so much within your videos so conducively that I'm driven to watch them again and again. You entertain, educate, and lead viewers like me all at the time and I will continue to appreciate what you have to say until you can say no more.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 10:54 PM
  • magikwizard

    It's like hearing your parents say that the movies of old had real actors in them and now all movies are nothing but special effects. The wow effect seems to come from the children rather then the gamers of old who have been playing the Atari and up. The sad thing is that games become more masked in their graphics that they show that it lacks in other areas. There are exceptions to this but the 3ds seems like a cry for help rather than a step towards the future. And like your point on feedback it just shows how mindless the public is that we are being told what is the next big thing rather than saying "Stop, I don't want a 4d tv." Companies want to pump out more product than we need which will flood the market to the point where it will crash everything. Think of it this way, If the next xbox came out next week how many people will go out an buy it?

    Posted: April 1, 2011 8:01 PM
  • adub424

    Sessler often talks about how bad it may be for the industry to just rehash teh same old games over and over agian. In an industry driven by technology I am happy to see new types of games and interfaces.It seems like a good idea to let the creative people be creative reguardless of what side of the tech they are on.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 4:42 PM
  • bakerbay

    I don't think that Adam is really respecting the past 30 years of console marketing. From the NES on forward, every generation was touting more power than the last-- 16bit, to 32 bit to 64bit, to CD drive to Blu Ray drive and deeper online play. The Wii was the first to effectively market the motion control idea and did a clever job by appealing to the non-gamer market. The 3DS is probably going to have the same success while Adam and many of us "serious" gamers will view it as fad tech, good for fifteen minutes of "that's pretty cool" and then you never pick it up again.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 10:27 AM
  • BR4CR

    While I've always admired your intellectual side (you insprired me to start plowing through "Infinite Jest") I have to ask if you've played Killzone 3 with the Move controller. Sure, you have to 'get used to it' in the same way you got used to riding a bike or driving a car, but it's a wonderful gaming experience. Try it, you might find you like it.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 8:14 AM
  • rampon

    i really liked that one sessler, i've hated motion controls since trying to steer in motorstorm by sixaxis

    Posted: April 1, 2011 2:40 AM
  • aerothen

    amen sessler. amen. if only video game developers would hear and heed this message.

    Posted: March 31, 2011 9:30 PM
  • slimmer

    3d is a nice OPTION but not worth the current price , I'm waiting for real games to be made in general ... we are on the path but not yet there by a hundred miles.(and I'm not talking about 3d which is very easy not to do).
    Scratch and sniff anyone ?

    Posted: March 31, 2011 8:26 AM
  • kentla57

    We need certain devices to input our desires of how we want to play whether it be my standard controller. or a mouse with a frag, move, Kinnect, keyboard and mouse. Some people like simple graphics others like 50 trillion billion pixels. So really it is left up to the player. Companies come and go so do games. If a company is dumb enough to not truly test the height of a cliff before they jump, then splat. Bad games, bad graphics, bad input devices. What it really comes down too is our happiness, Our happiness as the end user, Gamer plus how much money we have in our pockets. The true test is not how many sell but whether or not we liked the crazy thing: game, controller, console, computer, graphic card, sound card, etc. We all want pleasure drilled into our heads from a game. I say get IT anyway We want it, just as long as we get it.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 10:34 PM
  • xerocide

    This Soapbox is an instant favorite.

    You always raise good points, Adam, but for some reason your words here strike with unusual poignancy, especially when you questioned technology versus the more human contributions to games.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 10:28 PM

    Well spoken, Adam. I couldn't agree more. And yes, Kojima is also the only game maker that I would like to see handle 3D for the exact same reasons described in the video.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 2:52 PM