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Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS and Other BS

Posted: March 29, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS and Other BS
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Adam talks about how he sees the 3DS, Kinect, and Move as signs that the games industry is putting technology before creativity.

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  • Cathartic Denoument

    "Run swift, run shallow." - Adam Sessler
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    Innovations in technology shouldn't act as a hindrance to games, in that, it forces a particular game to be exclusive to the system that has that particular innovation in technology.
    We should be able to enjoy games on different platforms that don't necessarily HAVE said particular innovation in technology.
    If a game has (e.g.) motion controls, it shouldn't be exclusive to the system that HAS motion controls; the game should be available on other platforms that don't have motion controls, and provide traditional controls instead.

    I'm not saying that games should be multi-platform (though that WOULD be nice), but I would like to be able to enjoy a game's story, or be immersed in it's universe, despite the innovation in technology that is forcing it to run exclusively on a particular system/platform.
    [e.g. I would like to be able to play Dead Space: Extraction, without having to play it with a motion controller like the Wiimote or PSMove wand. I want the option to play it with a traditional controller]

    A game should be free of hindrances, in that, we should still be able to enjoy a game with controls we can customize, instead of being forced to play it a certain way (i.e. an innovation in tech).
    A game can have it's innovation in technology, but options for traditional/alternative controls should still be present.
    [e.g. Even though Child of Eden is designed with the Kinect/Move in mind, I'll still be able to play it with a traditional controller. It doesn't REQUIRE that I play it with either the Kinect or Move.]

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:58 PM
    Cathartic+Denoument
  • RifePrime

    I wholeheartedly agree with Zeeroid's eloquent arguments. I don't think we should discourage innovation in any form, that's a recipe for stagnation and that nearly killed gaming a few decades ago. Just because current developers don't know how to properly take advantage of motion technology or 3D features to add to the gaming experience doesn't mean they won't ever, that it's impossible to do so, and they shouldn't even try. There will be a few games that do it right, and they will be worth all the numerous failures, and be shining examples to future games, thereby improving gaming as a whole.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:55 PM
    RifePrime
  • secretgamer

    wht is he talking about? god he is such a moron

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:52 PM
    secretgamer
  • ashess12

    Nice Soapbox Adam, I completely agree

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:47 PM
    ashess12
  • Sorrior

    I feel as adam does but not about the 3DS or other items but about DLC and the like. I feel it's a way to make incomplete games and it in the long run hurts the games/game industry more than alot of other things. However i view the move and it;s ilk as rather fun things. Are they gimmicky yes are they needed no can they be fun YES. However DLC and the like as well as requiring servers to play games i see as removing alot of the replayability or fun or even jusy letting developers be lazy. If i recall right Adam had a soapbox about this at one point.

    But i guess the point of my post is that i see these gimmicks as fun options not as requirements and that they really do no true harm and in the long run may even help the industry go further than it is now.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:37 PM
    Sorrior
  • TheSlowFlash

    Yeah! Also video games can not be art. And get off my lawn you pesky kids!

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:36 PM
    TheSlowFlash
  • JustTheBeginning

    I don't really agree with your opinion that games should never change basically. If they did that with TV's we would still be in black & white! The fact that Mr. Sessler works at a gaming news company and yet wont even take the time to check out Killzone 3 or Crysis 2 in 3D is a bit troubling if you ask me. It is like he has made up his mind before even seeing it. And while I think motion controls at this point in time is gimmicky, I think it will have a huge effect and might even be the primary way to play games in the future, you got to start somewhere right?

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:25 PM
    JustTheBeginning
  • haterhater

    Just to clarify, this rantis not a complaint towards anybodies opinion about anything relevant to anything at all... especially Sucker Punch, which I will probably only watch if Im drunk with friends.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:19 PM
    haterhater
  • haterhater

    The reason I would mostly disagree, is because to say that gaming is fine the way it is says there is an established definition of what gaming is, and I believe in no such thing. Game are so much broader than Movies, Books, or Music could ever be. But at this point, so many games �are content with giving us what we're content with and nothing more. Theres no reason move and kinect, or 3D cant be great additions.�I say addition rather than revolution or gimmick,because while I cant speak for 3D, �I like dance central & Kin Sports. I want to be able to swing a lightsaber at people with Move, I see no reason these things couldnt coexist. And I personally am not fond of the cold shoulder games journalist's are giving. But I blame Sony and Microsoft simply followed everyone's expectations, failing to impress. Games can express themselves as art, but this doesnt fall on every single individual game to do so. Games are made to be enjoyed, and to that end should be without limit (but within reason of course).

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:14 PM
    haterhater
  • RayConner

    Careful, Adam, or the next words outta your mouth will be "When I was your age, I had to walk uphill BOTH ways to get to the arcade! And the games only cost a QUARTER!!"

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:11 PM
    RayConner
  • Zeeroid

    Great Soapbox as usual Adam, but I do take issue with your argument about how video game development seems to philosophically differ from other forms of entertainment. In my view, you're thinking about this the wrong way.

    It may be true that books aren't read differently, and films aren't watched differently, but that's not the point. Video games are by their definition physically interactive entertainment. How you interact with a game is inseparably tied to its evolution. Changes may not always advance the medium forward; sidesteps are just as common. But in its relative infancy, developers of gaming technology, with Nintendo in particular, are providing new tools they believe will lead to advancement.

    You cannot possibly make the argument that filmmaking and literature have not changed in the dozens or hundreds of years since their inception. I'm not talking about the addition of sound or high-definition, but rather the filming techniques employed which have evolved over the years. Make no mistake, things have changed, and mostly for the better.

    I don't know if either motion control or glasses-free 3D is the next step in gaming, but what I believe is that for gaming to evolve, not only must it change on the software-side, but the hardware as well must advance the manner in which we connect with these games on a physical level. The gaming experience in a combination of these two things and all that they entail.

    Let's not forget how the touchscreen of the DS has influenced gaming; not only has the DS become one of the most versatile and successful platforms of all-time, but its mechanic is now duplicated on smartphones of all kinds. For now, we all have every right to be skeptical of the 3DS, but it would be remiss to not complement that skepticism with some hopeful optimism. After all, the most important thing for us gamers is to be open to new experiences. While the launch lineup of the 3DS may not make the best use of what it has to offer (although I must point out that Capcom has done some wonderful things with these features), we shouldn't discount it as pure gimmick until more time has passed. In my opinion, that's precisely where the line separating skeptic and cynic is crossed.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:10 PM
    Zeeroid
  • Ewoc

    Yep, Totally agree about everything. Even the sucker punch comment. It could of been so much better. But I guess you can say that about alot of things recently. I'm looking at you Dragon Age 2...

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:05 PM
    Ewoc
  • 5thGeneral

    Adam, I gotta disagree man. You're the classic prisoner of the moment, you're focusing on the first week and it's first games, pretty much over looking the potential and kind of declaring it a failure. I think you need to chill and give the thing the benefit of the doubt, wait a year before going on a rant like this.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:02 PM
    5thGeneral
  • topgamer101

    Honestly I didn't buy the 3DS for the 3D effect, and probably won't care about using it much in the future. I mostly bought it because Nintendo knows what they are doing with their handhelds.

    On top of that there are several games that I'm interested in on the horizon, the remake of Zelda: OoT being one of them.

    It would be nice if the industry and media as a whole could get over this whole 3D thing and focus back on other things.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 2:00 PM
    topgamer101
  • crocodilius

    i like when people agree with me, generally because im right and hate stupid people.
    if nintendo would get off the gimmick-train it would allow for designers to make things for their systems that dont suck. (see: silent hill remake, ssx with motion control etc.)

    but you know i bet they dont change a thing, mainly because they offer something different, therefore reach a different audience than other systems. oh, and of course people feel this false sense of loyalty to a company and for what? because the N64 was great? that doesnt mean you have to like everything after that.

    i think theyre playing the same game Blizzard is with WoW and it just leaves me feeling so jaded.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 1:59 PM
    crocodilius
  • cyberninja45

    Lawdy lawd. These guys are willing too sacrifice their credibility to try to deter sales of this amazing system. Even going so far as to insult innovation in gaming. I know that the iphone/pad is now a contender and u may want to give it an advantage from the 3ds (because its from your country and it helps your economy and apple probably bought/bribe u out), But u cannot stop the 3ds, its too damn awesome.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 1:55 PM
    cyberninja45
  • psykitv

    Maybe Netflix in 3D will make me buy 1.....or wait there are 3D phones coming out? yeah NVM!!!

    Posted: March 29, 2011 1:54 PM
    psykitv
  • FuzzofPekinopolis

    100% Agree

    Give me good games. When the community starts to get tired of it, upgrade systems. But right now I own a good system that plays great games. I am not in the market to spend more money on new tech that doesn't make the experience that much better.

    I will always open my wallet for a great game. Period

    Posted: March 29, 2011 1:54 PM
    FuzzofPekinopolis
  • GamePhene87

    haha sessler 3D will rule the galaxy mwahahahahaha...oh wait

    Posted: March 29, 2011 1:50 PM
    GamePhene87
  • The_Red_Pony

    while I agree with the fact that games need to go back to the basics I don't think its fair to judge the 3ds based on a rushed launch line up.

    With the 3ds I think it may take a while for developers to focus back on the game element besides just showing of the 3d but the 3ds has a very impressive ability to immerse you into the game world with out actually hindering game play (like many games did for the sake of adding motion control when there didn't need to be any)

    People should really look at the 3d as a bonus rather then a hindrance

    Posted: March 29, 2011 1:48 PM
    The_Red_Pony
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