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Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS and Other BS

Posted: March 29, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS and Other BS
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Adam talks about how he sees the 3DS, Kinect, and Move as signs that the games industry is putting technology before creativity.

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  • User123123

    totally agree with Adam,we just need to wait(1-2 years)when casual players finally stop buying this crap devices & then we ' ll back to roots. If not and developers create another crapt,I have a back up plan)

    Posted: March 30, 2011 2:35 PM
    User123123
  • MPNalex

    DsiXL to 3Ds- games 3D but yet still the same thing

    I hope this is the last DS that's already 4 Ds systems it's time to make another handheld and not another DS with a little add on feature!!!


    I suggest you do your homework. The 3DS IS that another handheld. DS to DSi XL was the previous generation of DS. 3DS is the first in the new generation of Nintendo handhelds.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 1:42 PM
    MPNalex
  • jbach46

    personally, I have no problem with the 3d system, I haven't gotten my 3ds yet,I did have a chance to play with one a few days ago, and found it fun. similar to 3dtv, but no glasses needed. is it the holy grail of gaming? not at all. is the 3ds bad as Adam seems to feel? nope, the 3d isn't all its about, yes its a big portion, but it's not everything. even without that, the games can be better, better graphics, and control, to me is a major improvement. yes the 3d will be useful for some things, just like motion control on the wii was great for some games, horrible for others. and I find it funny that, in spite of how gimmicky the motion control on te Wii is according to most, sony and Microsoft came up with their own variations. sony going a similar route, using 2 controllers, and Microsoft taking the eye toy idea and improving it. I have seen people comnpring the 3ds to the Virtual Boy. I don't totally agree. but I can see some smilarities, though I think the 3ds has already outsold the Virtual Boy lol (yes I have one and still take it out to play it sometimes :>)

    Posted: March 30, 2011 1:35 PM
  • YoureSoFunny

    Dear, Nintendo

    Ds to Dsi- Camera built in same thing

    Dsi to DsiXL- bigger screen same thing

    DsiXL to 3Ds- games 3D but yet still the same thing

    I hope this is the last DS that's already 4 Ds systems it's time to make another handheld and not another DS with a little add on feature!!!

    Sincerely
    YoureSoFunny

    Posted: March 30, 2011 12:45 PM
    YoureSoFunny
  • QuickKick89

    Adam, if you hit the nail on the head any more, it'd be in the Earth's core.

    I've been saying since day one of the Wii's success, that Nintendo has ruined the industry. 3D, Motion control, all this gimmickry that is really holding back gaming as an art form. Games are no longer just "fun", fun is a subjective term that really is just a small sliver of what the medium can be. Games are competitive, they are artistic, and most importantly, they are EXPERIENCES.

    I agree with you that I hope that there's a wake-up call within the industry and people focus on making incredible experiences in the future (Perhaps Rage or Last Guardian will be that wake-up call) but even if it does happen, I don't think Nintendo will realize it. And when the entire industry has left them behind, they'll be dead and buried, exactly where they should have been 5 years ago.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 10:55 AM
    QuickKick89
  • Dorkenmore

    Adam. I do not care what some of these people in the comments say about you. This is NOT a matter of you simply getting old, you put forward an excellent and completely sound point. I was born in 1990 and had inherited my dad's old NES. With a standard controller in hand, that is how I controlled my pixelized avatar. I played everything throughout the years, I played mostly PC titles, but also Arcade games, sega genesis, N64, playstation, . but not once did I believe that the means for the manipulating the game needed to be changed. Like you said, the way we read books hasn't changed to any real degree (don't try to make some argument about the Kindle or Nook, the way to read has not changed). The way to watch movies is with your eyes, and the way to listen to music is with your ears. That doesn't need to change because changing it would not improve anything.

    Now, I am not saying that innovation is bad and all that motion control is just for youngen's. I actually think that bringing in the mainstream audience is a good thing and it provides another option for people to play games, but these frivolous technological spin-offs are becoming crutches for AAA game developers. Indie gaming is my favorite sect of gaming nowadays because it HAS to be about content within the game, instead of the irrelevant method in which it is controlled. This technology is making game developers lazy. They don't have to construct creative titles anymore, they simply have to give the less creatively intuitive audience something shiny to look at and they will throw their money to get it,and, in turn, promote the technological sludge-bath that will become the gaming industry if this continues.

    Think about it. What game developer is going to want to design a game that is immensely creative, beautiful, and brilliant in every way when it won't sell because you can't wave to make it move. I'm not saying that we are there yet, but the way that Nintendo, now Sony and Microsoft, is going about innovation implies that, someday, it might.

    To be fair, I don't just see this in the motion gaming and 3D segment of the gaming industry, but that is the way even some normal games have become too. I'm getting sick of all of these manly shooters that AAA developers seem to be falling back on as well. If you want good shooters, what happened to System Shock 2? Where's the modern day Thief game, Deus Ex? Anyone? Oh well, but since people here are making the argument that Adam Sess' opinions come from him getting old, maybe I'm just getting old too, at the ripe old age of 20.

    Whether this sounds like a grumpy old man or not, come on people, lets get back to the games that actually took a brain to play.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 10:29 AM
    Dorkenmore
  • kings_legacy

    I'm just glad didn't get one yet, I going to wait for a price drop before I do get a 3DS.

    Yes its not a huge need but eventually everything will start transitioning into 3DS only gaming but until that time comes sticking with my DS lite (feel sorry for the people who got that DSi with 3DS now out).

    Not a bad system just not something I don't need to get immediately or at $250 price point with the lack of games.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 9:47 AM
    kings_legacy
  • mattyd629

    id have to say i totally agree on with sessler, but i have a much more stronger opinnion about it. I believe nintendo made a huge mistake. 3d is totally a gimmick. I hate the fact that companies are trying to push 3d tvs and blu ray players down our throat when most people are still adopting the whole hd experience. No one is going to go back to the store to buy a $2000 3d capable tv, when last year they just bought a $1000 led or lcd tv just so they can sit on their couch and look stupid watching movies in 3d. I mean look at blu rays. they finally started getting a little cheaper, then they release the 3d editions and they cost like $40. Thats insane. The 3ds games are $40. You can get most console games on sale on amazon or best buy for that much. Im totally against this whole 3d craze and believe it should just stay in movie theaters. Anyone who supports this kind of tech is only helping these companies push this useless and stupid tech in our face at a high cost. Do you really want to play games in 3d? is it really that much more enjoyable to you to strain your eyes and possibly have to take breaks and suffer headaches over. Even on your consoles, would that be a selling point. I havent played crysis 2 or killzone 3 in 3d, but im not the least bit interested in putting on glasses and going to spend a few thousand just for that simple effect it may have. I like the way games and for that fact technology is currently. HD I feel was necessary to adopt to because it made picture and sound quality much better. 3D is just a ridiculous gimmick to bring into our homes, and our games.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 9:37 AM
  • jdmonmou

    No one was asking for motion control or 3D because most people aren't creative enough to realize that its something they want until the company releases the technology. You should be giving credit to Nintendo for creating the motion control movement in games. It was a huge hit as evidenced by all the Nintendo Wiis they sold and they forced Microsoft and Sony to follow suit by releasing the Kinect and Move. I like that Nintendo is not afraid to innovate on the hardware side. I remember the N64 controller. It popularized the analog stick when everyone was content to using the D-Pad. They put out a rumble pak when everyone was used to playing with their non-rumbling controllers. These features of a controller are now standard. Without those type of innovations we wouldn't have the sort of gaming experiences we have on today's current generation of consoles.

    Music, movies, and books do change the way that people experience them. For music you have the ipod that allows people to carry arround their entire music library wherever they go. For movies you have things such as HD and 5.1 surround sound. For books you have things like the Kindle. All the technology I mentioned for all 3 mediums changed the way people access and interact with them.

    We shouldn't be quick to write off motion control or 3D. The technology is there to make some really awesome games. I'm very impressed with the 3Ds and am looking forward to some very good games being released for it in the near future. Instead of lamenting the seemingly lack of quality titles that make the case for motion control and 3D we should be recognizing that we are witnessing the start of something good. In about 3-5 years we'll all be singing the praises of motion control and glasses free 3D and we'll have Nintendo to thank for that.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 8:19 AM
    jdmonmou
  • Stormraught

    Adams losing touch and doesn t understand that people who critique games and baby/praise franchise (Im looking at you CoD #987567938 black black terror modern warfare Ops invasion of the ominous super krautommunisterrorist)over and above what they really have to offer is hurting the gaming industry more than any box with 3D can do.

    Games are main stream and people are content in having a pat on the head for choosing the right title and supporting the same franchise, this is why the food is no longer gourmet but rather some sort of sick gruel of monotony.

    Hope the 3DS has success and developers can use this new technology in a new interesting way to create a new IP or do something crazy.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 6:33 AM
    Stormraught
  • didisaythat

    It is truly amazing to me to see people being duped by "3D" yet again. It's been tried before multiple times, and each time it's billed as "being inside the action." But it isn't. Adam is right. It adds nothing to the experience. And it's a distraction for developers who should be focusing on content or gameplay.

    Until someone develops a holodeck I'm not interested in 3D.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 6:29 AM
    didisaythat
  • OMEGASUNSHINE

    Get off my lawn with your new fandangled technology, Damn kids!!!!! Stop ripping the 3DS a new Ahole you Ahole. It's been out for only a few meager days. How can a supposed long time Nintendo supporter like you lose his cool so easy about a launch? I've been there since day one(NES) with Nintendo as I'm sure you have to. The system is amazing to me and it will only get better as the games get better. No one should be deterred from trying this out for themselves. Keep in mind the criticism here is very rushed and is only the viewpoint of one man. Get off the soapbox it's time for someone who is more of a gamer and more relevant in today's gaming society to speak. It's only a matter of time before Obama sends in the troops to liberate G4 from this hasty dictator and his ol timey ideologies. HOPE!!!

    Posted: March 30, 2011 6:05 AM
  • RayMcAnthony

    Sessler's getting old. If that wasn't clear before. This soapbox makes it abundantly clear.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 5:12 AM
  • Nerdi_Master

    I kind of agree with Adam, but another problem with Nintendo is they have a bad habit of sticking with the tried and true, instead of thinking outside the box in regards to their titles. They haven't had a new IP in years, and although the classics never get old, I want something new instead of rehashing old material or trying to make them better with new technology. That being said, if the upcoming remakes do prove to be worth it I'll definitely be picking them up.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 4:46 AM
    Nerdi_Master
  • RTAanimation

    First off, I wanted to say the only reason why I go to this site and read the reviews is because I trust the there game reviewers and I agree with them most of the time. The reason I watch these soap boxes is because I like hearing Adam's gripes because they make me laugh but this one is the only one were I felt I needed to comment on.

    Yes, 3d is mostly a gimmick and no, we don t need it but it does gives us a new perspective in gaming and I welcome it. Like all things in life, change is necessary. I really think this is awesome tech and it really should be explored more. I see the 3DS in the same category as the iPad, do you need it in everyday life, app solutely not (I m really sorry, I had to do it) but is worth the money, hell yeah. I know there might not ever be any reason for 3d in our games but as long as its fun to look at and I m able to turn it off at will, I say bring it on.

    Also, I wouldn t put the 3DS and the Wii in the same category because you can turn off the 3D but you can't turn off the idea of the Wii's capabilities. See, where the Move and Kinect went right, is the fact that they are peripherals. That means we don t need to make every game use the tech. I m sure in the near future we will figure out how to use 3D to make the gaming experience more fun but until then why not enjoy the depth for what it is.

    And Adam, have you noticed how you have become more and more bitter over the years. I m not saying this to make you feel bad, I m just saying you might want to take a step back and relax because I think the gaming world is starting to get to you.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 4:04 AM
    RTAanimation
  • coates32

    Wow, I have to admit, Adam makes a good point about stereoscopic 3D. Its a shame that the 3DS is getting this kind of negative reaction, though.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 3:24 AM
    coates32
  • jeff4434356

    Wow I can say I honestly agree with you 100% I am tired of the use of motion control, 3d and whatever else they throw at us in games, just get back to the roots a controller in the hand and ideas on how to make games fun through the games themselves and not how you play them I want innovated game mechanics not innovated do dads to toss around in my living room to replicated something else on my tv screen.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 1:32 AM
    jeff4434356
  • otaku92

    i just got my 3ds and i think its really cool. and all the features i ve explored were great. by the way i got my first street pass person mii thing .... yay~ that mini game the comes after street pass was intresting it had genaric boos but was like an rpg it was intresting.

    Posted: March 30, 2011 12:44 AM
    otaku92
  • Illuminate88

    Why is it that as I see with my eyes what I see doesn't appear any different that what is displayed on a 2d screen whereas a 3d movie looks different? It leads me to believe that 3d is just a trick or gimmick played upon our eyes that we don't need to subject ourselves to.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 10:34 PM
    Illuminate88
  • DownwithBigBrother

    At this point, just like Move and Kinect, the 3DS hasn't been around enough to be judged, it just doesn't have the software yet. I do believe that all three were released before the games were ready, the 3DS core components are flawless(nearly) and same with move and kinect but the games haven't arrived, about two months too early in my opinion at least for America, Japan got way more =( but anyway both piotlot wings and Steel diver began as tech demos and are just that, nintendogs I think was meant to get some sales while Nintendo funds their real projects, even the other companies such as Ubisoft and Capcom are saving Assassins creed and RE for when they are ready, I think Ubi just went the app store route and put as much as they could out as fast as they could cause they have like half the lineup. Capcom actually tried but still given a little more time...anyway same with the other "gimicks" they just haven't been around long enough, if I remember right the games you praised at E3 for using 3D well and changing gameplay havent been released yet, is that so Adam? Anyway, I've said this in another post I have, nintendo also just released Poke'mon so I think at least financially they can afford a few crappy releases while Snivvy sells millions of copies, also, you have to be like the oldest person at g4 by at least 20 years, that said, games right now use the 3d as a gimick but give it till E3 I assure you it will be a different system again

    Posted: March 29, 2011 9:58 PM
    DownwithBigBrother
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