Sessler's Soapbox: Loving is Free!

Posted: March 8, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: Loving is Free!
Adam discusses the true freedom in Dragon Age 2 and how your choices really do affect your character and their sexuality.

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  • JudgeFenris

    my problem with Dragon Age 2's relationship system is that every character is pretty much bisexual. There is no party member that is explicitly straight or gay. It makes the character's empty in the sense of personality. having every single character being attracted to you is somewhat annoying. Im ok with gay and straight and bi. Im not ok when they make every single character into what David Gaider called a Hawke-sexual. I say they should go back to Dragon Age Origins and look at their old romance system because it worked very well. I was straight character in that game and I still romanced Zevran fully I might add. However it was nice to know the boundaries between certain characters such as Alistair being straight. I couldn't romance him as a male and it felt reassuring.

    Posted: April 22, 2011 2:32 PM
  • QQvenom

    Slap a "Yes we can" here and there and i think Sessler could run for president.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 11:10 AM
  • ArrenKae


    Posted: March 21, 2011 7:03 PM
  • ArrenKae

    The only sense in which there's more freedom in games is that sex's guaranteed your character in some. In real life your sexuality's even more open: you can go hump a dog, a corpse, or a dog's corpse. But how easily you achieve your pet-cemetery-desecrating goal is more difficult than in Postal 3. So it is with everything a player character can do.

    I liked in Dragon Age how Morrigan was the character more comfortable with her sexuality but uncomfortable with trusting someone else in a relationship while Leliana sought emotional support while reserving the goods. Characters being different in how they deal with romance, sex, relationships etc. makes them more interesting so any of them being game can be kinda bland. On the other hand, I understand wanting a James Bond type character (if only Alpha Protocol was good) who has a notch for every (attractive) woman.

    Posted: March 21, 2011 6:59 PM
  • RolyThePro

    Off the top, I should say that I'm 100% heterosexual.

    Wow I really enjoyed this week's Sessler's Soapbox. It made me realise, for the first time in a long time, that the media that is video games is going to change the world more than any other type of media. To have freedom like you have in Dragon Age 2 is something special. The world in Dragon Age 2 is a spectacular ideal where you aren't judged for having relations with other characters and the only change that is made by doing so is the relationship between the two characters involved. The real world should take note.

    Posted: March 17, 2011 8:45 AM
  • highdive_lowlife

    im not here to comment on Adam's review score, only the version he played and possible thoughts on morgan webb's game taste.

    i think adam seems like console gamer by 65% to 35%, and in reviewing the 360 version may not have seen the actual good points of re-using some of the same areas. because on the PC version, with high res textures and dx 11 kicked on, the environments are just GORGEOUS to me. the sun glows behind the clouds and the clouds actually shadow and move across the ground. so yeah, did bioware use some outside areas and dungeons over and over? sure. but they look great and i think there used to be a game that everyone played and loved 10 years ago called PSO that was ONLY 4 areas TOTAL, but because it had great character development and loot it got a pass for that development decision.

    well i can give DA2 a pass on that for gorgeous GFX (even console version looks much improved), great character interaction, fun loot and a story that keeps me interested. thats what PSO had, and DA2 has it over PSO 4 fold.

    would morgan give this a higher score since shes more of a PC gearhead?

    also, i'm not version biased. i bought a copy for my 360 and my PC because they both offer different experiences. and in fact, i'm actually into the 360 version a little more right now, but it could be because of my new 32" samsung HDTV.... WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted: March 15, 2011 2:19 AM
  • Spybreak

    Not this again.

    Look games allow us to experience things we don't do or wouldn't do in real life. They also let us experience what we do and would do in real life. That's why they're games, a new form of entertainment which seem to bend to whatever people want to enjoy!

    Posted: March 10, 2011 3:29 PM
  • Atavax

    homosexuality is a controversal issue... thinking it was in bad taste to put it into a videogame does not mean you have to be against homosexuals. Just like thinking its in taste to make it so you can abort fetuses in game does not mean you are against someone being able to abort a fetus in real life.

    As for Homosexuals and Bi's... 2 things in my opinion are indisputable.

    #1 That the development of gay relationships and gay lifestyles is completely, 100% choice. You can argue that a basic attraction to someone of the same sex is not volunteery, but it is indisputable that living the gay lifestyle, dating and having sex with people of the same sex is completely choice.

    #2 Society obviously has an effect on the percent of its population that is gay or bi. In some civilizations it has been widespread; in others it has been practically non-existent, clearly societies can have an impact.

    whether gay lifestyles are good or bad for this society and whether the society should encourage or discourage homosexual behavior is completely in the air, but i think every law, every position regarding it, needs to take into account the 2 indisputable facts; homosexual lifestyles in a choice, and society has an impact on how rampant homosexuality is.

    Posted: March 10, 2011 12:48 PM
  • suryu

    i guess if you can't get it in real life why not a game lol

    Posted: March 10, 2011 12:39 PM
  • Sara5x5

    I just don't understand why people are offended by this. There are gay/lesbian/bi-sexual people in this world. Just because you do not agree with it won't make it disappear. I spent the same amount of money as everyone else and as a lesbian I want to romance the female NPCs. Gay men want to be able to romance the male options. We paid for the experience just like the rest of you and we deserve the same freedom and choices. Saying that "not everyone is bi-sexual so it is unrealistic" is stupid. We're playing a game in a mythical land fighting monsters and dragons and now you're worried about realism? This is just homophobia. It's disgusting and embarrassing to the gaming community. This is the kind of ignorance I expect from 13 year old boys on CoD but not RPG fans. We're here we're queer and we like to play video games too! I know it wasn't a catchy phrase but it's all I got.

    Posted: March 9, 2011 11:44 PM
  • AngelsandDemons

    @playsbydesign....Thanks for responding. I'm surprised Sessler didn't mention this possibility in the game. Free choice is one thing. No one complains if you are forced to kill off a character or an alien race...maybe because the game will basically play out the same. But what if the decision involved homosexuality. it would obviousl make certain players uncomfortable, especially if the results hampered your successful completion of the game. That's what I intended to discuss.

    Perhaps "moral" wasn't the correct word to use. I'm thinking Bioware's "moral choice" of life or death ever present in their Mass Effect games, in particular.

    I don't treat being gay as always an absolute. I know that there are often bisexuals who will sleep with both sexes and you even have all the other transexual and she-male fetishes. Perhaps pop culture and the media have influenced me to a fault. I often think if there's "attraction" and incentive."

    I love women only and I can play a female character and sleep with a woman because that would be a freaky turn on, get me? I couldn't do it with a man. He would have to sleep with women only.

    If I imagine a scenario where saving the world depends on me taking it or giving it in the old brown eye and it just doesn't fly. Now to save my family?...maybe...it would be a hard day. No pun intended.

    Thus, understand my musings in the context of gaming. Just like CODMW2 forced you to witness/participate in the "No Russian Mission." What if you could have killed the terrorists? That's true freedom. So, currently as DA is created, you have true freedom but all your consequences are the same so you can have gay sex if you want and for fun like in real life without any consequences. What if you were forced to putt from the rough just like you were forced to save a colony or a mining station in ME2?

    Posted: March 9, 2011 1:22 PM
  • GamePhene87

    haha you said gay

    Posted: March 9, 2011 12:01 PM
  • BigPoppaChunk

    you like alot of aspects and commented you going to play it again just not now on a game you gave a mediocore score what up with ur shades of gray!

    Posted: March 9, 2011 9:44 AM
  • FuzzofPekinopolis

    There is more to a game than what you actually play. I personally don't care what a developer puts into a game, it could be anything, really anything. It matters more to me where the idea is coming from. Is it being put in there to offend someone. Or is it being put in there to carry the game forward, or does it have a impact on the game. Shock value for the sake of it is pointless.

    This world needs simpler laws. And other than those few laws that we couldn't survive without we need to respect others. If you like something that your neighbor doesn't, but it is not hurting your neighbor that you like it. Your neighbor shouldn't be able to stop you.

    When our world runs out of mutual respect, our lives will too.

    Posted: March 9, 2011 9:20 AM
  • Houseton

    I think this is very unrealistic and I love having the option to play as a female who is interested in females. Why does everyone have to be bi-sexual? I think it doesn't show the world as it is. There are straight people, there are homosexual people and there are bi-sexual people. Not eveyone fits the bi-sexual mold.

    I hated that I couldn't romance Tali with a female Shepard so I switched gender (lol) and became a male Shep (you can do this on PC with the dev console and set gender 0 command or something like that then save and reload and male Shep). i've wanted Tali as a romantic option since the first encounter. Same with Morrigan. I think that is more realistic.

    But that is the world. Not every woman like women and not every man likes men. To have everyone open to bi-sexuality is to skew and blemish the fact of diversity. If anything you're forcing everyone to be the same way and that is counter productive.

    Be yourself whether you are heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual and if that means you don't get certain options for romance, well welcome to life. But I think there should at least be an least one option for each for whatever gender you choose.

    Posted: March 9, 2011 7:49 AM
  • Admiral_Ackbar

    Jesus will report you if you play a gay/bi character.... :)

    I am surprised this hasn't made a bigger uproar with the super religous nuts. I am glad that Bioware didn't make a big deal out of it. just added it like it was a normal thing. Good for them. The day we stop making such a big deal out of alternative lifestyles is the day we can start accepting each other for who we are.

    Posted: March 9, 2011 7:24 AM
  • DungoRungo

    Well thats kinda crazy when you think about it.


    Posted: March 9, 2011 5:43 AM
  • coldenhas

    high five sessman.

    Posted: March 8, 2011 10:40 PM
  • HardcoreGamertag

    wtf a 3 really morgan should've reviewed this classic som1 who loves rpgs not som1 who dosen't

    Posted: March 8, 2011 9:36 PM
  • Tmidiman

    Adam, Great soapbox as always, but you do need to finish your ramblings at the beginning and speak more clearly. Otherwise someone might mistake you for Charlie Sheen.

    Posted: March 8, 2011 9:07 PM