Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS - An Uphill Battle

Posted: January 25, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: 3DS - An Uphill Battle
Adam sits down to express his reservations and concerns about the marketability of the Nintendo 3DS.

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  • BryanHelp

    For $250... it sure as H E Hockey Sticksx2 better not have any dead pixels. And I agree... the launch line up is weak and I think Nintendo is holding Zelda OoT and Kid Icarus back for a reason: So people will actually buy the not so good games. Right now I can barely buy a $20 used game let alone a new one or even a new hand held that costs as much as my consoles pretty much. But I like playing my back log of games right now while only working 20 hours a week and some how still supporting myself. =] Nintendo needs to lower the price and should of went with a different name like Adam said. And I don't touch my Wii very much any more. =[

    Posted: January 25, 2011 10:10 PM
  • hisnut32

    you all must understand that Nintendo for a long time has had no real competition in the hand held market for like 8 to 9 years ,and they really did not expect the psp to be so popular with the one joystick

    Posted: January 25, 2011 9:10 PM
  • UndeadNightingale

    Hey, don't forget tax too! (unless you live in NH then it really is $249.99)

    Posted: January 25, 2011 8:29 PM
  • theantigzus

    I dont care what you say Adam im gettin git at Launch and ill be playinf my mario kart in 3D. whats that you say no mario kart at launch, how bout star fox? No. Umm how bout a Donkey Kong where the flings poop at you? Not even that, well lets just hope Sony announces the PSP2 soon and its actually not trash

    Posted: January 25, 2011 7:58 PM
  • Da'zeroneff

    You know Adam I felt that way and you just put in words for me, I think you are totally, I think Im going to sit this one out for a while and see if it's worth buying. You know I gave my wii awat to my father just so he can stream netflix in his room, and that really the only thing we use it. (and its not like I went out of my way to buy it for the netflix I had bought it and it was sitting in the living room for years.)

    Posted: January 25, 2011 6:26 PM
  • DownwithBigBrother

    I love how everyone of this generation,young and old(Sessler) wants that immediate gradifiction when buying a console or a game, (Dutydroids) and forget that when consoles start out they are expensive and don't have much. The flagship of many gamers, xbox 360 started out at $400 and the critically aclaimed Barfect Dark: Zero Stars as its big launch title, I rather have the original Nintendogs than that trash and I hate nintendogs. PS3 was $600 and it's big launch was resistance and...and...and...the Wii had little better but was $250 came with a game to entertain for a few weeks and ZELDA, TP was probably the most anticipated game of this generation and I'm talking to you Halo 3 but the point is no one, no one starts off with a good start or cheap game

    Posted: January 25, 2011 6:16 PM
  • mikegonzalez2k

    I agree Adam.

    While the 3DS might have some nice new fancy features it still seems like nothing more than a beefed up DS. It seems rather pointless shell out the cost of a console for a portable. I think in the future this system may have great potential as the emulation scene fully unlocks its capability.

    Until then I'll stick with playing my easily ROM-able DS.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 6:05 PM
  • Darlux

    I think part of me (deep down) would really like to own a 3DS at some point... having said so, I still play my games on the original DS that first came out and never really saw the need to "upgrade". Perhaps once the price drops and more games are released, I'll give it a try... but for now, I think I'll stick with what I have.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 5:38 PM
  • silver6kraid

    Adam is just echoing what my frustration with Nintendo has been since the Gamecube. Oh it's all great and glorius at first, then you realize there are no games for it, and there aren't gonna be a lot of games for it for a while. I feel abandoned and it's why I just don't even bother with Nintendo anymore. My gaming needs have been more than met with the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. The wii still only has a handful of great titles where as the Xbox and PS3 have that many great games every single year. As a Hardcore gamer I feel abandoned by Nintendo, so if they aren't gonna pay any attention to me, I won't pay attention to them.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 5:28 PM
  • TromboneFanatic

    I can't see 3D. Not a joke, I'm physically incapable of seeing 3D. I feel kind of bad that my favorite hobby might be leaving me behind. Did not expect this from Nintendo. I hope I will still be able to enjoy games that come out on this machine.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 5:14 PM
  • ShdwFox

    I wanted to add by hardcore audience (in the 2nd paragraph), I mostly met the people that already gave up on Nintendo during the Wii/GC/GBA generations. All the hardcore gamers that actually stuck with Nintendo and still are, are obviously going to purchase a 3D-DS. It's easy to see why given the technical prowess it's capable of. I personally don't think 3D is a big deal, but I definitely can see how others would be excited about it.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 5:09 PM
  • that311guy123

    A question about the 3DS I have that I haven't heard addressed is how will the 3D feature effect battery life? The DS Lite made headlines for its greatly improved battery life, but I haven't heard anything from Nintendo regarding battery life on the 3DS (if they have then I'll gladly stand corrected). But this lack of comment leads me to believe it will probably drain the battery a noticeable amount.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 5:04 PM
  • TAYREL713

    Why is Nintendo not holding on. Shareholders. What is going through the gaming press that they forget this is a business first. This is essentially a 3D TV in your flipping hands, the future literally is now and that is why 250 aint a bad price and why this will sell just fine world wide. Same gaming press that spat all over Kinect, heck over the Wii for that matter have now set their gaze on Nintendo. When will you all learn that you are just bad at guessing how the "business" of games works? Review the games, heck discuss what would make you happy, but this notion that you know the direction this medium is going to take simply because you report on it is a fallacy that the games press needs to move past.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 4:59 PM
  • Zeeroid

    $250 seems about right, actually. I disagree with y'all. The 3DS is technologically more advanced right now than the Wii was when it launched (in relative terms). I don't buy the "it's a handheld" crap. If anything, handhelds should cost more than consoles; they have a lot of parts in a small package (including a screen -- or two), and moreover have to worry about power management and weight. A perfect handheld system constitutes a fine balance between features, cost and portability that consoles don't have to deal with. By making the argument that it should be cheaper, you're essentially demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of how technology works, and instead appealing to convention and history. To propose a $200 price point is to propose Nintendo suffering losses on each unit sold, and we all know they won't bite. The 3DS will probably be a success story that rivals the Wii. Indeed, $250 is a lot of money, but if the hardcore crowd doesn't snag them first, I suspect the casuals will.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 4:57 PM
  • Tmidiman

    Hubris is right, but Nintendo has shown that for years. What I want to know is how much shovel-ware will be released AT $40-50! Seriously, will Nintendo ever get heir hands around the terrible quality of the games being released?

    And don't give me that,"it's only 3rd party games" crap! If I made a system I would not allow people to release any old crappy gameplay mess on my system.

    Oh well. Hubris. People will buy that junk no matter what.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 4:51 PM
  • ShdwFox

    I have to agree with Sessler up until he said it's going to sell well.

    The first issue is the title. I think he's right on the money to say it was a dumb idea to keep DS in the title. Uninformed gamers and the casual audience are easily going to just see this another handheld reiteration of the DS, rather than it's own stand alone handheld. It's even more dumb when considering that this has been Nintendo's way for ages with previous Game Boys (i.e. Game Boy Pocket, Game Boy Light, Game Boy Advance SP etc...). The uninformed/casual gamers are going to see this as just another DS, think to themselves "oh, my current DS works, I don't need this" and not pick it up.

    I agree with the hardcore audience perspective. Nintendo has continuously appealed more and more toward the casual gamer audience (the Game Cube, the Wii, and possibly the Game Boy Advance) on numerous occasions. They lost our money a long time ago.

    But another factor Sessler didn't mention is the child's warning label about the DS. Yes, for most people this warning won't apply, but, it's still there. Again, the uninformed or casual gamer is going to look at that detail with skepticism. And from there their either going to research that it's probably not going to be harmful, or just ultimately decide that it is and not give it a second thought.

    And lastly (and probably most important) is that price tag; that's a lot of money. Especially when you consider that Nintendo is appealing to the casual gamer audience with it. I would definitely say they less likely to shell out that kind of money more than a hardcore gamer would.

    So when you consider all that, yeah, it'll still probably sell quite a bit. But I definitely think it'll be a lot less than even what Sessler thinks.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 4:50 PM
  • daemonbellum

    the production value of this soapbox was amazing!

    Posted: January 25, 2011 4:05 PM
  • 5thGeneral

    Wow, really? $250 is to expensive? I already went and pre-ordered mine, in cosmos black. I have all 3 home consoles and multiple versions of the DS, I'm not rich but I know how to spend my money wisely on things I want and not things I don't really need. I have to disagree on the premise that Wii owners (the casual ones) will even be targeted by Nintendo, nothing that Nintendo has said or showed comes remotely close to what they were doing with the Wii. Matter of fact, I think the 3DS and the games line up for launch and the future pretty much target the hardcore gamers more then ever.

    The first few million 3DS's will sell out to gamers and in turn those gamers will show it off to their friends and family and once people actually see it for themselves, the 3DS will be an unstoppable behemoth of sales. Quote me on that!

    Posted: January 25, 2011 3:57 PM
  • AntiquesRoadwarrior

    I totally expected $250.
    So, DS was $150, the DSi was $170, and the DSi XL was $190. If you think that linearity demands a $209.99 price point, I pity your obsessive-compulsiveness. So, it was $40 more than simple trends in video game popularity demanded. I wholly chock that up to technical advancement, rather than some silly hubris from Nintendo. I'm NOT saying it's affordable; I'm saying it makes logical economic and technological sense.

    And we all know this crowd of consumers likes to have fringe anger sessions over the cash pocketed by corporations before giving in anyway. Look at Apple and the iPhone. it's ridiculous thinking that, in February, many people I know will be on their FORTH iPhone in as many years. Did any of you cancel Gold subscriptions when they went up to $60/month? Sorry, Adam, but I doubt that any amount of money under $400 will give parents pause these days.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 3:45 PM
  • fightingbias

    I'd love to know how Nintendo could ever please you folks at G4. They released what was by far the cheapest console this generation, and you guys have spent the last four years making fun of it, disparaging it, and complaining that its best third party titles should have come out on the competing consoles. Now that Nintendo has not only answered your cries by releasing a powerful handheld, but has gone above and beyond with lots of multimedia features and the cheapest glasses free 3D experience you'll find on the market, all you can do is whine about the price? It seems like the only way you'll praise Nintendo the same way you praise Microsoft is if they release both the cheapest and most powerful console. There is a distinct lack of fairness here.

    Posted: January 25, 2011 3:40 PM