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Sessler's Soapbox: Why Video Game Movies Suck

Posted: January 18, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: Why Video Game Movies Suck
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  • gabytzu1984

    A movie can be made from anything, sorry if i don't agree with that :). The fans of the games usualy love the movies even though are bad, it's fan related, it's not an art. Even the movie is done because the game gained popularity, and the fans usually ask for it.
    And you can get good movies from this if they are thinked well, or if you explain that this movie continues the game, and you take all from the game, the character build and all, after that it could turn into a very good movie :P.
    Resident evil is a good movie, it is based on a game: biohazard, and the movies were very nice - without the original characters - THIS IS WHAT I'M TLAKING ABOUT! :P

    Posted: November 15, 2011 7:47 AM
  • cry_of_paine

    I have to disagree about the comics/books. Those are a linear narrative story forms, the same as movies. It's difficult to make a good movie based on them, but it's not impossible, if you understand the material. However, you can't do a direct translation. For instance, X-Men First Class was a great movie, because it took some core elements and characters, and ran with it in a direction that made sense for film. DaVinci Code was a bad movie because they tried to shove a rich book into a tiny little box, and then completely change a bunch of stuff for no reason.

    Video games are, for the most part, completely different than movies/books/comics, in that many of them aren't linear. Even the ones that are aren't exactly linear. When I heard they were making a Mass Effect movie, I wanted to go track down whoever's brilliant idea that was and beat them until they forgot it (and probably their own name as well). It's a bad idea. Let's take the most non-linear, branching storyline with all these options, and try to make it a movie. There will be about 3 people that like it, and the rest will say "That's not my Shephard." "That's not what happened." "They should have done this actor/femshep/renegade/paragon /etc." The more complex the game is, the more options there are for how to play it, the worse of a movie it will make.

    Posted: October 30, 2011 3:05 AM
    cry_of_paine
  • hlygrail

    Thank you. Frig, Tolkien's writing sucks. I also watched and enjoyed those movies, because, wel... frig - Tolkien sucks.

    Posted: October 26, 2011 10:09 PM
    hlygrail
  • DJRaVeS

    not ganna lie that max payne movie sucked my fat chode game is a classic though

    Posted: April 26, 2011 9:33 AM
    DJRaVeS
  • manythings711

    I did tire of all the damn songs in the LOTR trilogy of books. I read them and felt the movies edited down all of the damn singing and poetry and don't get me started on the ONE HUNDRED PAGE epilogue that went on and on after the one ring was already destroyed.

    With that said, you're analysis of Apolcaypse Now was rubbish. Stick to video game criticism because you don't know much about films if your bashing Watchmen and Coppola's epic masterpiece.

    But I do agree, you can't make a movie about a video game that was only ever trying to be a bunch of movies to begin with. There in lies the fatal flaw with 99% of video game to movie translations. Most games are just interactive versions of our favorite movies.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 10:48 AM
    manythings711
  • manythings711

    I did tire of all the damn songs in the LOTR trilogy of books. I read them and felt the movies edited down all of the damn singing and poetry and don't get me started on the ONE HUNDRED PAGE epilogue that went on and on after the one ring was already destroyed.

    With that said, you're analysis of Apolcaypse Now was rubbish. Stick to video game criticism because you don't know much about films if your bashing Watchmen and Coppola's epic masterpiece.

    But I do agree, you can't make a movie about a video game that was only ever trying to be a bunch of movies to begin with. There in lies the fatal flaw with 99% of video game to movie translations. Most games are just interactive versions of our favorite movies.

    Posted: March 29, 2011 10:46 AM
    manythings711
  • jakemp

    He really was right they should stay doing what they are doing. I love the Walking Dead comics, but the tv show is horrible compared to the comics

    Posted: March 8, 2011 4:15 PM
  • JMan1c1347

    Peter Jackson had to work hard to not let the Lord of the Rings movies suck. The proof is in the extended versions of said movies... which do suck. Almost as much as The Watchmen & Max Payne... almost.

    Posted: March 1, 2011 2:20 PM
  • ceedz

    Hell at least its not the other way around! Tail eating the snake, lol. Its ok to make a bad movie video game adaptation, but it sucks more when they make a bad video game movie adaptation. Right? $63.47 game compared to a $20 movie, just makes sense.

    Posted: February 22, 2011 9:57 AM
  • vegeto247

    You sir, are harcore XD

    Posted: February 12, 2011 5:55 PM
    vegeto247
  • kentla57

    I could not agree with you more!!!!! Stay in your own crappie world movie makers. And Game developers Keep hiring the good folks who have converted to good game stories. Adam they are doing it for one thing only $$$$$. I know I won't go see it. that is for sure.

    Posted: February 2, 2011 3:50 AM
    kentla57
  • gtamaster503

    Never. Diss. Watchmen. Again.

    Posted: February 1, 2011 6:03 PM
    gtamaster503
  • LoveAsThouWilt

    Only time it should be ALLOWED for stories to cross their media is if it is telling a DIFFERENT story within that same universe. Halo novels (exclude 1), Mass Effect novels, Dead Space comics/book/movies, ect.

    Feeling the "need" to make a game based on the same events of a video game makes it seem as if movies are required to justify the game's existence. As long as this continues to be done video games won't be considered in the same vein as movies and novels. In my opinion they should be considered above both. Nowhere else do you get such deeply involving stories. Your actively playing a role in it, which makes games work better than the others even more.

    Posted: February 1, 2011 4:43 PM
  • CH_Gorog

    I disagree with Adam on the grounds that stories that originated in one medium should stay in their respective medium. Being able to transfer over a story doesn't mean it's watered down, it's being translated to a different medium. Movies like Forrest Gump can be adapted well enough to tell a certain story within the frame of another medium. The same can be said about video games that are based on other franchises. Other franchises like Sam and Max and Arkham Asylum work well because the developers understand how to craft a narrative within the (I use this term loosely) confines of the video game media.

    My main question to Mr. Adam Sessler is this: who cares? If a video game movie turns out terrible, how does that impact your love of the source material? It's not retroactively changing the story in the novel, comic book, video game, soap commercial, etc., so why get so worked up about it?

    On a almost off-topic side-note, can we please stop focusing criticism of narrative art based on what the 'subtext is' and just judge the work based on the characters and story ACTUALLY being told?

    Also, I myself loved the Watchmen movie, and yes, even in comparison to the comic book.

    Posted: January 30, 2011 3:47 PM
    CH_Gorog
  • KayleL

    I think people are hoping for a good Uncharted movie because it has the potential of a good movie.

    As you say, narrative for one media is very different for another movie. That's why I don't mind if the movie plot greatly differs from the original book/comic. Batman Begins/The Dark Knight was awesome, however, they did change a lot that wasn't in the original comics.

    I hate when people compare movies to the source. I am going to bring up two movies that I never read the original comics. Watchmen and V for Vendetta. V for Vendetta was a great movie in my opinion, and I watched it many times. However, I go on the internet and people complain how the original was much better. It may or not be true, but the movie is very good in it's own respect. No way they could directly copy the original story. Watchmen is a lot closer to the original with the exception of the ending because they had to cut it short. That movie was horrible. I could not emotionally connect when any of the characters at any level. I especially hate Warshak because people make him out as a badass, but he just seems like a silly Batman wannabe to me. The Watchmen movie was depending on people already being connected with the characters due to reading the comic.

    Posted: January 27, 2011 8:30 PM
  • Cyruss666

    Adam you hit the nail on all counts! More power to ya man!

    Posted: January 27, 2011 8:32 AM
    Cyruss666
  • ArrenKae

    I liked the stories in Max Payne.

    Sounds like your throat's soar Adam, thanks for doing the show anyway.

    Apocalypse Now Redux is great. It goes well with Jacob's Ladder.

    It's not a paucity of imagination, it's an assurance of an installed audience. It's always easier to start with some followers, however few, than none.

    Posted: January 24, 2011 3:37 PM
    ArrenKae
  • marijauanaGaMeR*

    i agree with dude on most games being a movie, in my opinion the best game to be a movie would be bioshock an it should be done in CGI. it has great no amazing story and prob bring alot of ppl who dont play video games into videos. it could be the best sequel ever, with bioshock everything is possible!

    Posted: January 24, 2011 12:14 AM
  • FFSamurai

    Well, speaking as a fan of Tolkien, I can understand where he's coming from when he says it's a terrible story. I mean Tolkien, in his attempts to create a mythology for England did delve so deeply into describing forests and an entire race of being in his old trilogy of books that storytelling did take a hit in quality. It's also part of the reason why it spawned D&D and, both directly and indirectly, modern day video games. However, with titles like Prototype (generic Marvel super hero) and Uncharted (the Indiana Jones franchise) being highly acclaimed by both Adam and critics at large and with them being blatantly inspired, or adapted if you prefer, from their differently named source material to such an effect that it seems a little naive and blind to say that because the last decade and a half of game movies have sucked that there is no hope whatsoever. I can understand and respect the hardest working man at G4 for his views here but I disagree.

    Posted: January 23, 2011 5:06 PM
    FFSamurai
  • cookie1012349

    I don't understand how Tolkien sucks can be uttered. Nothing makes since anymore!!

    Posted: January 23, 2011 4:02 PM
    cookie1012349
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