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Sessler's Soapbox: Why Video Game Movies Suck

Posted: January 18, 2011
Sessler's Soapbox: Why Video Game Movies Suck
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  • Griffolian

    Could not have said it better myself. Fantastic, Adam.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 10:09 PM
    Griffolian
  • TheFeedMack

    i still want a halo movie done right of course

    Posted: January 18, 2011 10:07 PM
    TheFeedMack
  • TD_ThA_MoNsTa

    Great Soapbox, though I completely disagree with Sessler about Watchmen, it was a great movie. But I do completely agree with his point about what's popular in entertainment medium.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 10:05 PM
    TD_ThA_MoNsTa
  • bolo73

    Love the J.R.R. sucks as a writer remark. I also love the movies but cannot read his books.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:39 PM
    bolo73
  • atheist25

    I have read "Heart of Darkness" before I saw "Apocalypse Now" and the movie, not the redux version, is a lot better than its written counterpart. It was difficult do derive any meaning from the novella and by the time that I did, it was not worth the mental strain and the mediocre grades that I received from the assignments. However, I will agree with the idea that one medium is a direct fit for the other.
    If a movie is based off of a book, it needs to take the general idea and make it into its own. This is why "Apocalypse Now" succeeds. It takes the basic plot and builds on it to fit a movie. My favorite director, Stanley Kubrick, based many of his movies off of books or stories. To name a few, "Dr. Strangelove", "A Clockwork Orange", "Full Metal Jacket", and "The Shining" and all fantastic movies and they are based off of books. I find nothing wrong with adopting a book into a movie.
    This is why I have no immediate objection to the idea of a video game being made into a movie. However, they would need to take the basic plot and setting and make it into a good story for a movie. As a philosophy major, I would love to see a Bioshock movie.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:34 PM
    atheist25
  • JKING2012

    Tell em Adam!

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:33 PM
  • Uldum

    I think Adam's point of why he didn't like the LOTR books but liked the movies can be applied directly to video games and comic book movies as well. Obviously he does not like Tolkien's methods and preferred the film over the book, and the same can be said about other's with comic books and video games.

    Video games aren't for everyone, neither are comic books. While the movie version may only be a cliffs notes version of the original it's still a way for the person to get a glimpse into an universe and story they may have never experienced.

    This is why I'm excited and nervous about Mass Effect being adapted into a movie. On one hand Mass Effect the game is an awesome interactive story and since the key part of it - being interactive - won't translate into film, a major part of what made it great will be missing. On the other hand, I think the core ME story is an amazing scifi story and that I wish more people could experience, and a film adaptation is one of the better ways of doing that.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:26 PM
    Uldum
  • JimDanD

    I agree that games are pretty much always going to fail as movies if they are literally translated into a movie. Most movies try too hard to follow the story and feel of a game that probably doesn't have a very good story to it. If a movie were to be inspired by a video game without focusing so intently on the game itself, I think it's possible to make a good movie.

    Uncharted doesn't need a movie. The game is already better than any movie, it is a movie, a 12 hour long movie you can control. I think games like Gears of War and Zelda could have good movies, as long asa they don't focus too much on appealing to the gamer, or copying the game. Make an original story, mix things up a little. Don't copy Ocarina of Time and make it a movie, write a completely new script, send Link on a new adventure, one that can be told in two hours.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:24 PM
    JimDanD
  • Rakupenda

    Prince of Persia:

    Good game made into a movie (didn't seen it), but what I found interesteing is when they went and made a game based off of the movie. Y'know, one of those crappy play-throughs they make. *shudder*

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:14 PM
    Rakupenda
  • nightninja13

    Unfortunately I disagree that adaptations from one Genre of creative arts is not something that can't be good or could be good if the writer/director/producers gave it the respect it deserves.

    When we talk about video game movie adaptations you see movies that basically dumb down story or ignore the story for the audience that media thinks they are selling to. Prince of Persia is an excellent example where the director never even played the game and they tried to fomulize it by makeing it a Pirates of the Caribbean: sands of time. Media treats gamers like the VGA Show does.
    "After all gamers are not intelligent and they all smoke weed and waist time in their mothers basement." According to the media this is what we are.

    I think the problem most people see is that with a lot of adaptations they are not true to the source material. It seems the movie industry wants to make their mark with the film and story. Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian is, an excellent example of unwise adaptation choices. Changing the meaning of the book, character motivations, plot, dumbing down the dialogue, amongst other choices that would have made a better movie and story had they not done such things.

    I will disagree on Adams opinion of Tolkin, however, I will agree that the movies were one of the better adaptations made so far. The reason it is good is because they keep the heart and meaning of the story throughout that movie.

    The uncharted series could be a good updated Indiana Jones type movie adventure. If Marky-Mark would be a good actor for it remains to be seen but even that is not locked down. If they keep true to the feel of the game and the humor and fun then it will have been a good adaptation. Personally I hope they make unique stories for Nathan Drake but keep his "family" out of it. The games are about treasure that is cursed not character development that is unnecessary.

    Any how thats my two cents I might have been a little scattered so if anyone needs me to explain myself feel free to ask.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:09 PM
    nightninja13
  • Shadowmars

    The Shawshank Redemption
    Memento
    A Clockwork Orange
    ^Just a few phenomenal movies that are based off of books. Of course the book versions are always better, but they can offer some great stories for the movie-goers.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:08 PM
    Shadowmars
  • twisted_method_x

    having not read the Watchmen comic i've got to say i LOVED the movie thought it was great. To add to "Movies That Are Better Than the Books Their Based On" list i'd also have to add Fight Club. Even thought the book was amazing.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 9:08 PM
    twisted_method_x
  • trueghost00152

    I didn't even know there was going to be an uncharted movie

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:55 PM
    trueghost00152
  • trueghost00152

    I didn't even know there was going to be an uncharted movie

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:54 PM
    trueghost00152
  • Inarikun

    Horror games make decent movies. J-Horror Fatal Frame could be a good movie.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:37 PM
  • K-Dog138

    Adam, I completely agree with you about how all of these mediums of media should stick to their own places then try to please everyone. This is exactly why we have alot of crap movies, comic books, and even video games today. These mediums are no longer focused on their core imaginative foundation and it's really sad and pathetic. Another medium that is becoming diluted with crap that you failed to mention is cable and satellite television. A channel like MTV is an exemplary example of how alot of cable television no longer caters to is declaring niche that people expect and completely disregard it's core foundation and fanbase(the reason why it exists in the first place) to produce and air crap that the average idiot teenager will watch so they can make millions of dollars. I think if a person or group of people have a good idea it should be presented in all its originality and innovation instead of dumbed down and modified for mass consumerism. This is obviously a problem created by mass consumerism and the need to make money of anything thats profitable out of things that were once good, things that were once art, and things that were once expressive of our rights, intelligence, and freedom. LOL, don't ask me were all of that came from. You see Adam Sessler I read The Lord of The Rings Trilogy my first year in middle school and completely comrehended the writing of Tolkien.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:28 PM
    K-Dog138
  • Flight_Eagle

    You know what movies i love? The Resident Evil movies. Those are awesome.

    I might see the uncharted movies... but i don't know. Maybe i like the RE movies because i'm bad at the games? Maybe that's why i liked Street Fighter? Guess i gotta play Uncharted and find out.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:15 PM
    Flight_Eagle
  • Lathander81

    I have to say I agree people need to realize that books, comics, and games can really never be fully translated to cinema. Not saying that the movies can't be good (I thought Watchmen was good) but they can't be as imaginative as the medium from which they came from.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:08 PM
    Lathander81
  • Aerindel_Prime

    ugh...I really am finding myself less interested in what adam has to say by the day. I think the worst thing is the hypocrisy, or maybe he just doesn't pay enough attention to the crap that he says to stay consistent.

    May also have something do with the fact that my parents named me after a LOTR character. If my family had a religion it would be LOTR.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:06 PM
    Aerindel_Prime
  • mcguinness

    Although i personally believe that Apocalypse Now is a great work of cinema, i understand the comparison of it to a "Cliff's Notes" to Heart of Darkness, although I don't believe it should be watched with that kind of mindset. To do so would be a discredit to the great work of the actors and film crew.

    Posted: January 18, 2011 8:03 PM
    mcguinness
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