The Protest Against the TSA's Full Body Scanners

Posted: November 17, 2010
The Protest Against the TSA's Full Body Scanners

The TSA's new security measures involving full body scanners are making the upcoming holiday travel season look even worse. Kevin Pereira talks to Noah Schachtman from 'Wired' about the privacy concerns over full body scanners, how to opt out of the process and the growing outrage against airport security. Honestly, what could be more invasive?


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  • RobinGoose

    @ WarVet

    You clearly have no idea of whats going on other than what the news tells you or what you've been told, which are no doubt lies. Do a little independent research. You have been fear mongered by the 9/11 attack and by the media into giving up your freedoms, and brainwashed into thinking that giving them up and being a "good little citizen" is the right thing to do.

    If you truly give a crap about the soldiers and veterans you would understand that what they fight and die for are our freedoms. How is giving up our freedoms and constitutional rights at the airport or anywhere, in any way honoring what they do? They aren't fighting in the middle east to protect me from cave men/ boogie men so I can become a slave from my own government. We are becoming a police state like Nazi Germany.

    Posted: December 6, 2010 10:23 PM
  • WarVet

    In case you people have forgotten, we are a nation at war.Soldiers are dying every day. Our enemies are looking for a chance to strike at us and they tend to use air travel as their weapon, ie: 9/11. You don't have to submit to any search if you drive or take any other means of travel, nobody is forcing you to fly.
    If you are trying to say that there are no more terrosists out there trying to hurt us then you either have your head in the sand or you are sheltered from the realities of this world and need to get out more. Talk to a veteran, ask them what his or her experiences were. I'm sure that they will bring you up to speed on what is really going on outside your comfort zone.

    Posted: November 23, 2010 2:11 PM
  • WarVet

    Not to mention, if they get complacent then people could die, so they have that on their minds also. If I were a badguy trying to get on the plane then I would act like you all, refuse the scan, complain about the pat down and just maybe the screeners wouldn’t want to hear my crap and do a substandard pat down and miss the gun/knife/bomb that I have hidden down my pants. Give me a break, there is no right to fly. If you want to fly then submit yourself to the security protocols that have been established for our safety, otherwise, take a bus.
    The fourth amendment doesn't apply here because it is not unreasonable to submit to screening before flying.

    Posted: November 23, 2010 2:10 PM
  • WarVet

    Y’all are playing right into the terrosists hand. TSA is by no means perfect, but a little cooperation from the traveling public will go a long way. They have a harder job then any of you can even imagine. What would you do different? Think about it, you have to get a bunch of whining, impatient, weary, self-absorbed travelers screened so that no one sneaks anything dangerous on the jet, but you can’t profile them or some group will scream foul, so you have to treat everyone as if they were a badguy, cause, god fobid, some wacko will take over the plane and fly it into a building. No wonder the TSA employees are rude. They put up with abuse from just about everyone, pilots included, the pay is lousy and the job is unfulfilling.

    Posted: November 23, 2010 2:08 PM
  • That_Dan_Guy

    @RobinGoose -

    This particular enemy = someone who's trying to use the airlines and future shuttle-like transportation to hurt others or myself physically because they are seeking revenge or really for any reason at all.

    Innocent = someone whose tax dollars do not go towards murdering other people in mass, something we have been collectively responsible for centuries.

    Children are innocent because they don't pay taxes, so pat downs on children and our elderly with health problems infuriates me more than anything. I think the airlines and future spacelines (yes its not a word yet someone trademark that) need to start thinking about using security as a point of competition, there's obviously a demand for alternatives. I just hope the federal government does not try and patchwork something together but rather draft new air & space legislation for the old industry and the upcoming industry all together.

    Posted: November 22, 2010 12:00 PM
  • RobinGoose

    @That_ Dan_Guy

    "more dangerous tools are going to be put into the cross-hairs of our enemies" ???

    Exactly what do you qualify as an enemy? People wanting to molest and grope innocent civilians are the enemy. Civilians who have done nothing wrong and are forced to pay a price. If you are afraid of cave men attacking the most advanced nation on earth then by all means shiver in your boots at the airport and give up your freedom. Congratulations, you have successfully been fear mongered thanks to 9/11 no doubt.

    Im more afraid of the real enemies, the ones closer to home. They are them.

    Posted: November 22, 2010 11:29 AM
  • SteelRat

    Instead of hiring Supermodels to operate the TSA body-scan devices, my idea is that the TSA should hire only ugly, overweight men and castrate all of them. Then, no matter how you look, you know for a fact that you look better naked than any of the TSA Eunuchs who are looking at you.

    Posted: November 22, 2010 10:25 AM
  • GSDragonmaster

    Yep, the terrorist definitely won. They done made us do so much that they been done moved on to something else while we're going as far as groping our own people.

    Yes, anytime someone reaches into your pants and touch you inbetween your legs, that is known as "groping". Im sure noone would like seeing kids or old people going thru this. Try telling a kid that they have to touch you in a place where you don't touch to clean them since they were babies.

    Posted: November 20, 2010 7:01 PM
  • Arm3g3don

    Rowdy, that sounds like what ive been thinking. p.s. here is a little something else on the subject: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40 278427/ns/travel-news . this whole TSA screening thing is getting out of hand quickly...

    Posted: November 20, 2010 1:55 PM
  • Rowdy12

    I think we should all just revert to our caveman instincts and roam around the world nude

    Posted: November 20, 2010 12:02 PM
  • Arm3g3don

    I'm more concerned about radiation rather than some one seeing my d*c*. We should get free print-copies of the scans at least. It's like riding a roller coaster and getting to walk home with a copy of you screaming but this time you get a Call of Duty-esque Xray of your fine a**.

    Posted: November 19, 2010 4:54 PM
  • That_Dan_Guy

    The problem with this debate are the variables. There isn't an FDA approved amount of radiation that I can endure with out destroying my DNA, I don't wear a radiation badge to know whether or not I've gotten zapped, and there doesn't seem to be any ongoing research to answer these questions, answers that might end the radiation hysteria. Can the system be modified to allow the machine to determine "areas of interest" (ceramic knife under the arm) without having to show the TSA agent the goods? I don't care if the machine looks at me naked, it doesn't have standards.

    Posted: November 18, 2010 3:59 PM
  • That_Dan_Guy

    Given the catastrophic nature of collisions eminating from either planes or spacecraft, extra security measures need to be put in place to ensure that neighborhoods do not vanish because a virigin space shuttle goes rogue and smashes at high speed into London or because someone wants to use a plane as a missle to avenge someone they lost. Now, I'm not saying that we need to be x-rayed or groped every time we travel or go to space, but a better solution needs to be found. Certainly with commercial space going online (fingers crossed) by 2012 more dangerous tools are going to be put into the cross-hairs of our enemies, and now would be the perfect time to reevaluate how security is handled at our air and space ports.

    Posted: November 18, 2010 2:56 PM
  • SSGSTrunks

    I was totally thinking the same thing to fix the enhanced pat-down.

    Posted: November 18, 2010 2:55 PM