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Feedback -- Rockin' Fable BlizzCon Edition

Posted: October 27, 2010
Feedback -- Rockin' Fable BlizzCon Edition
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BlizzCon 2010 may be over, but our own Leah 'WoW Addict' Jackson is not done talking about all the new info on World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. Join Adam Sessler, Kevin Kelly, and JP Shnub as they dive deep in their reviews for Rock Band 3 and Fable 3.

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  • ZeroOverOne

    WOW! Leah cutest feedback member yet ;p

    Posted: October 29, 2010 12:59 AM
    ZeroOverOne
  • shadowsamus7

    hey, i think you might have forgotten one big game.... its this tiny little game... oh man.. i think i forgot the name... oh ya! cataclysm? the game that 12 million people will give up a week of their time for. just saying. :)

    Posted: October 29, 2010 12:43 AM
  • swordgoatz

    Adam, I can't tell you how happy the shoutout to the Call of Cthulhu pen and paper RPG made me.

    That is my favorite pen and paper RPG.

    I feel like our souls are now cosmically intertwined, like a Na'vi to a dragon thingie.

    Love,
    Creeptastic McHoulihan

    Posted: October 28, 2010 11:32 PM
    swordgoatz
  • CustosIntusSilentium

    While I understand asking a question like this may be beating a dead horse after the last couple Feedbacks and Soapbox, hopefully my trying to be comprehensive will instead put a stick of dynamite under this festering equine.

    Pulling in all the negative comments about Fallout: New Vegas, publishers blacklisting or castigating for fear of or penance for poor review, the Metroid fiasco, the DLC price scandal, PC gamers not buying Call of Duty, the numeric quantification of a game s elements and quality, the receding of Adam s hairline Do you think that an environment of resentment, laziness, and/or resistance to change has recently or long ago been created in the gaming community between the creators, the reporter, and the consumers, and where do you feel the primary blame lies? Furthermore and more importantly, where do you think changes need to begin, who is most likely to initiate these changes, and how do you think these changes will come about? I ask as someone with existing personal views, high respect for each opinion expressed not limited to those of Feedback, and one soon to be joining the ranks of journalism in the coming year.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 10:35 PM
    CustosIntusSilentium
  • RPG-fan

    Adam was really defending some of the criticism toward Fable III from the other guys. Shows how the Sess man is the boss.

    Leah is good addition to Feedback, as it's nice G4 hired a PC gamer. Not that there's any wrong with playing exclusives on the consoles, but you got to admit there's already tons of them in G4. Leah, what other PC games are you into besides Blizzard games?

    You got to have J.P. (as well as Casey Schreiner) in Feedback more. I hope you don't limit him to just Halo and rhythm games.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 8:52 PM
    RPG-fan
  • metkillerjoe

    As for the rating system, I use metacritic because I can't spend 60 dollars every month on a game; I rather use it to buy a good book, which is usually less than half that. If I'm getting a game, i don't want to get one that got below an 85 on most sites. Same as Leah pointed out, if I'm finding a game for somebody like my little brother, then I go on review sites to find kids games that got better reviews than others. I don't think that one could tell the difference between a game of a rating of 87 or 88 because at that point it is probably subjective, but that the same time there is definitely a difference between games like Half-life 2 and Batman: AA, which get ratings of 90 or more, and games like crackdown, which aren't that great in any one camp, get scores in the 80s or below. If I had an income of 100K or more per year I may not care as much about ratings, but right now, I'm not rich, so a game that gets really good reviews on average is less risky than a game that gets less good reviews on average.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 8:47 PM
    metkillerjoe
  • spiralking04

    Good Feedback. All the women of G4 are beautiful.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 7:49 PM
    spiralking04
  • playsbydesign

    Thanks for answering my question, guys. It's great that you got explain your reasons for the 5 point system as well as having a number system in the first place.

    I suppose the only thing left is to hope the video game community matures into realizing that reviews are an individuals perspective on a game and not to perceive said perspective as truth or law.

    Keep writing them and I'll keep reading them. Good Feedback, guys. Always a joy to listen in.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 6:24 PM
    playsbydesign
  • canmore

    Great feedback people.
    One thing I feel about the scoring is that it s not really as relevant as who is actually reviewing the game. This is where shows like Feedback shine is it actually introduces the reviewers as actual people and helps give an impression as to where someone s tastes lie in comparison to your own. As an example I d read Abbie s review of Black ops and give it real weight. Now if I were to read her review of Starcraft, I d wouldn t give it as much weight and look for other reviews by other people.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 6:24 PM
    canmore
  • rikkuster

    First off: hurray for Feedback!

    The way the group described the upgrading system in Fable 3 reminded me of the Crystarium System in FFXIII where you could only go so far until a certain point in the story which, naturally, limited grinding.

    The rating system thing definitely has it's good's and bad's. It can be handy for a general consensus of a certain group or person's opinion on how good a game is but a fully written review is so much more valuable and thorough and descriptive. I like how G4 does this with a number for quick reference, Pros and Cons for another quick summary of the game without taking up too much time, and the written review which is undoubtedly the most valuable part of the equation. If there's a game I've bee thinking about getting I'll check out the full review. If I want to check the rating of a game that I already plan on buying or already have I'll just check the rating and Pros/Cons just to see what someone else thought of it.

    Lastly, I just want to thank G4 for providing all this. To me, it shows that you really want to inform people about whatever game they are looking for and not just slapping on a number and calling it good.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 6:10 PM
    rikkuster
  • FBinLA

    I never had problems with Fallout 3, however i experience dozens of crashes, falling through the world, hanging etc with Red Dead Redemption... They have never really mentioned this on feedback.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 5:48 PM
    FBinLA
  • Flight_Eagle

    My Jasper is glitched. When i go in to the Sanctuary, i can't teleport between rooms and Jasper doesn't talk to me and i can't click on him.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 5:18 PM
    Flight_Eagle
  • Mite000

    Treeclaw, I completely agree with you. Thank you for taking the time to write everything that you did, cause it saves me the trouble. G4 is sadly kidding themselves if they think that 3 out of 5 doesn't mean either 60% or a C grade. That's what it means for everything else and even if they are trying to make it clear, that's simply not going to work. Especially when you have some confusing reviews that don't seem to reflect the score they were given, one way or another. We'll have this problem until reviewers stop putting scores altogether, and because Adam is right and this is a business, this problem isn't going anywhere.

    On a side note, I'm pretty sure you were joking about the Dragon Ball game comment Adam, but I still didn't appreciate that too much. I'm 24 years old and grew up watching Dragon Ball, so I like the idea of being able to play a fighting game where you're flying around as these characters. I'll be the first to say that the game series is over saturated with garbage, but there are a few good ones. Tenkaichi 3 for example, I will take over a typical fighting game like Street Fighter IV any day simply because of how different it is. Although it may not be a popular opinion, I would not say that the game should only be played by ten year olds. Anyone who's a Dragon Ball fan or just a fighting game fan in general should check out Tenkaichi 3. It's a blast.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 4:43 PM
  • Mite000

    Treeclaw, I completely agree with you. Thank you for taking the time to write everything that you did, cause it saves me the trouble. G4 is sadly kidding themselves if they think that 3 out of 5 doesn't mean either 60% or a C grade. That's what it means for everything else and even if they are trying to make it clear, that's simply not going to work. Especially when you have some confusing reviews that don't seem to reflect the score they were given, one way or another. We'll have this problem until reviewers stop putting scores altogether, and because Adam is right and this is a business, this problem isn't going anywhere.

    On a side note, I'm pretty sure you were joking about the Dragon Ball game comment Adam, but I still didn't appreciate that too much. I'm 24 years old and grew up watching Dragon Ball, so I like the idea of being able to play a fighting game where you're flying around as these characters. I'll be the first to say that the game series is over saturated with garbage, but there are a few good ones. Tenkaichi 3 for example, I will take over a typical fighting game like Street Fighter IV any day simply because of how different it is. Although it may not be a popular opinion, I would not say that the game should only be played by ten year olds. Anyone who's a Dragon Ball fan or just a fighting game fan in general should check out Tenkaichi 3. It's a blast.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 4:36 PM
  • happymeowmeow

    Nice question of the week, I've wondering about the scoring system here for a while now too (I think I even posted a Feedback question about it once).
    I can't argue the points that a rating system makes a review much more accessible, and that compromises have to be made. But there is this pervasive feeling in the "game journalist world" that the sky is going to fall if games aren't rated by number, and I just don't think that is true. I don't think G4 would lose all their reader(viewer)ship if they dropped the rating system, in fact they might gain some.
    Just my 2 cents, as always enjoyed the show.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 4:08 PM
    happymeowmeow
  • frankurban

    There's only one thing I want to know about Fable 3. Does the dog help you fight this time or not? Because in Fable 2 it simply would not fight even with those books I bought.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 3:34 PM
    frankurban
  • gamerjes

    I always read the text intro, so feel free to post links to boobs, Kevin. I won't mind.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 2:16 PM
    gamerjes
  • expl0siv0

    YES! I love the Peter Tarvers call out at the end! He is so biased towards non "hollywood" or "big budget" movies. He is terrible!

    Posted: October 28, 2010 1:31 PM
    expl0siv0
  • Ted_Dancin

    "The hills have eyes, the hills have toes, the hills have penises". I lol'd. Great Feedback!

    Posted: October 28, 2010 1:20 PM
    Ted_Dancin
  • NocturnalX

    Chillingo didn't develop Angry Birds, Rovio did. Chillingo was/is the publisher.

    Posted: October 28, 2010 1:16 PM
    NocturnalX
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