Sessler's Soapbox: Gaming is Not a Crime!

Posted: September 21, 2010
Sessler's Soapbox: Gaming is Not a Crime!
Adam discusses the current Supreme Court case, deciding if it's constitutional to outlaw the sale of mature games to minors.

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  • EdSabre

    Man, sure are alot of people out there who really want to take away our freedom, arent there? These things are exactly why we came to this country and created the amendments in the first place!

    Posted: September 21, 2010 3:17 PM
  • thePcgamer

    I'll be there in DC with you adam. This sickens me that this even is being brought to the supreme court

    Posted: September 21, 2010 3:13 PM
  • mannychilling

    this law is dumb, its the parents that buy the games not the kids, so blame the dumb parents that buy these games for there kids, stop taking it out on the kids, and in my opinion games don't corrupted kids.
    and kids just think a game is a game nothing els, its when u get older then u take things more seriously. so lets just let video games be video games, and have fun and try to be like a kid because that's when a video is truly fun.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 3:03 PM
  • skillsthatkills

    BLAIR... she needs to have more air time (if she wants it). Sorry for being off topic, very informative Adam, as always

    Posted: September 21, 2010 2:55 PM
  • daemonbellum

    Does anyone else notice the cut about 4:35?

    seems strange.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 2:47 PM
  • Rosenquartz

    It's really sad how little faith California's politicians have in their under 18 population. A 16 year old isn't going to react the same way to something graphic as a 3 year old is, and a 7 year old might be able to understand the difference between fantasy and reality if the parents did their job and explained things to them. (Not saying a 7 year old should play M-rated games, that's up to the parent.) I just think it's insulting and wrong forcing this on people who can't speak for themselves.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 2:24 PM
  • DinoHaxxSaur

    Which I do know that the second half of my post isn't what the Lawsuit is about, but it would solve alittle of the other common problems that haunt the video game industry. ADAM they can alter an M-Rated game. Look what happened to the (I think the Austrailian cersion) of Left 4 Dead 2.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 2:14 PM
  • DinoHaxxSaur

    They shouldn't punish someone for selling a game to a minor. Besides that how many parents, siblings, or friends who are old enough to purchase an M-rated game would buy it for someone not of age? What they need to do is nothing but encourage to NOT sell M-rated games to minors. It's no different than smoking or alcohol, kids will always find ways to get what they want. LOL to "What you in for?" "I sold a M-Rated game to a minor." What is this world coming to. All Rated M games need to put a warning at the biginning of the game that states something along the lines of what is to be expected in the game and if like Halo or GTA then to not commit these acts cause these are punishable crimes and that the games are NOT resposible for your actions. At least video games couldn't be the target of everything due to the fact that "Hey, our game has this warning."

    Posted: September 21, 2010 2:09 PM
  • Game_Wizard

    I find it actually more frustrating at the people who are for this law and choose to ignore or dismiss the greater implications as it has been stated than just those that helped make this law.

    To me, such willful ignorance and stupidity is why laws like these are made because there are those who don't understand something and choose not to understand that then create situations like this that cause far greater harm than they know.

    Freedom of Speech is so important for this country and far too many people take it for granted. They forget that before this country was founded, we were not allowed this type of freedom here especially the freedom to speak out against our government (i.e. the King) because we would have been arrested or worse. We would have not been allowed half the things we see in just video games alone because those on high would not have liked it and would have stopped it. So I say everyone should be thankful for our 1st Amendment Rights and not be so dismissive when laws such as this threaten it's stability.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 2:00 PM
  • gambitjuggalo

    if they are afraid of violent videogames why dont they watch the evening news and check out the real horrorshow. theres a bit of the old ultraviolence going on there.

    hell just this morning there were murders,rapes,robbing,assaults , car wrecks, plane crashes. whatever you can hear about it all broadcast locally onto your television everyday. where do you even think the idea for some videogames come from. without military and wars we wouldnt have call of duty and so on and so forth. Granted alot of games are made from the amazing imagination and mad skills of the game studios.

    still this wont really bother me ill just go to whatever store has the game i want. or even have a special back room for a adults section with all the m rated games i dont care just get out of the way and let me play my games.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:58 PM
  • FlyboyM

    While I do feel minors or anyone under the age of 16 should not play a M rated game, I do not feel like we need a law for it. Games like movies have ratings and if I had a penny for every time I saw a parent buy a game for their brat to shut them up without checking the rating, I would have enough money to make Bill Gates my bitch. There is no need for any type of ban on video games. We need all these parents to take their head out of their you-know-whats and take responsibility for their child.

    I remember when I was a child, my mom and dad would ask me about the game I want then do research about it to make sure it was ok for me to play. This meant while some T rated games I was allowed to play and some T rated games I wasn't allowed to play until a year or two later. M rated games were out of the question until I was able to buy them myself with my own money. Now I am 19 and able to buy whatever I want but it still comes down to parent responsibility for their children.

    Whew I hate how every month we gamers need to repeat our self over and over to the rest of the world.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:44 PM
  • REmaster0514

    This law is complete B.S as Adam said it violates the first amendment and here is something that everyone [event the supreme court] should take into account. VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT REAL!!!! They are a form of entertainment or virtual reality the only people that should not be playing M-rated games or any games for that matter are people who can't distinguish Virtual Reality and Reality from one another. I'm not saying that a toddler should play M-rated games, it is the parent's responsibility that the game is acceptable. I once saw a five year old [I knew the brother] tell his mother to let him purchase Grand Theft Auto 4. Do I think that was right? No, but I am not going to try and start a law banning all minors from playing M-rated games that is just wrong and it is as Adam said it is unconsitutional. Adam please address this on feedback or sometime on your next Soapbox because I want to see if you or anyone else agree with this.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:39 PM
  • Scorpian_2

    I think people are simply missing the point here...

    The point of this law is to prevent the sale of games with inappropriate content to minors. This includes God of War (think of the upcomming title featuring a Sex-Mini-Game), the Witcher (same), or Grand Theft Auto (with all its gore and foul language).

    Store fronts, such as EB, are trying to take a moral stance, based on the ratings stated by the ESRB. Thus, if an 11 year old tries to purchase GTA or say Leisure Suite Larry (feeling a bit old on that reference...), then the storefront can say no. If they appear to be 16, then by all means sell them the M-rated game.

    The issue that is being confused in all of this is the right to Free Speech. Preventing the sale of such content AT-ALL would be the oppression of this freedom. What is being requested in this law, is that stores be required to consider the implications of selling mature content to children, and to take appropriate measures to prevent this.

    Parents, of course, are the ones responsible at the end of it all. Parents can decide if their child is ready for whichever kind of content a game may have. The ESRB guidlines are only effective, if they are used. If stores don't impliment some sort of age-to-rating policy, then parents really have no control over what their child is going to buy and subsequently play.

    This same scenario can be applied to things such as pornography. Storefronts are required to take note of the age of the consumer. If a parent feels their child is ready, then they may choose to purchase the content.

    In this way, Freedom of Speech is never violated, and parents can have some control over the content they subject their child to.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:38 PM
  • Zzanzabar

    Ok Adam what exactly am I missing? The law wishes to restrict the sale of "M" rated games to MINORS, without an adult present, correct. It doesn't say the games have to be censored, or event that it is illegal for minors to have the game, just its sale to a minor WITHOUT an adult present. So how is this a First Amendment issue? It is an attempt to restrict the sale of something to a minor, that is all. All of these other 'assaults' on the gaming industry is just hyperbole.

    As for parents 'policing' their children, it appears that this law only takes place when a parent is NOT around. It stops a minor from buying a mature title ON HIS OWN. It will not DOOM the video game industry into backstreet deals and 'hot' games on the black market.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:37 PM

    Maybe it's because I'm not american but i don't understand why you guys get so defensive about your amendments. here in the uk yu can't sell 18s to 11-year-olds and i don't think that's a problem

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:33 PM
  • topgamer101

    Adam pretty much summed up my worries about things. Also the redundant cycle that seems to continue time and time again with each new form of media.

    If feel worse for the people that buy in to a lot of this when many politicians, (not all mind you) are simply doing this to garner votes, and not so much protecting anyone.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:31 PM
  • snakebit1995

    one more way for the goverment to keep more people under there control

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:27 PM
  • TD_ThA_MoNsTa

    Thinking of the scenario of what would happen if ESA doesn't win in the supreme court ruling scares the living s^!% out of me. Because to give the government this much power over one entertainment medium, a medium that's only starting to see significant change and growth is nothing short of unethical. For if a game is not sold just because it has content in it that's not necessarily appropriate for one age group of gamers, but is for another, it's nothing short of censorship, and a violation of 1st ammendment rights. It's people that are against the ESA that are truly socialist.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:27 PM
  • Animatorkid

    My Gamestop won't sell M rated games to minors. So I know I always have them to buy my games from lol.

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:22 PM
  • VonSpartan

    Que Fortunate Son by CCR and bust out the American flags, picket signs, and rally caps. It is time for a march to the front steps of the supreme court building my fello gamers!!!!! FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

    Posted: September 21, 2010 1:20 PM