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Sessler's Soapbox: Tali-Banned?

Posted: September 7, 2010
Sessler's Soapbox: Tali-Banned?
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Adam addresses the recent decision to not sell the new Medal of Honor game on US Army Bases.

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  • cyberninjasensei

    DAMN! Sorry for the double, everybody. Wonky internet -Elevnty Billion

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:57 PM
    cyberninjasensei
  • cyberninjasensei

    Wow. On top of this being one of the best Soapboxes yet, I'm also kinda stricken mute, to an extent.

    My wife is currently being medically retired due to her deployment to Iraq. We are, as of this moment, still living on an Army post with a GameStop. I know some soldiers who would be mildly upset about the inclusion of the Taliban. Others. meanwhile, also recognize what the video game means as an artistic medium and would be more likely to try it out and make up their mind for themselves. And though I understand the governments thinking, I do agree with your observation of the double standard. Personally, I haven't put much thought into the new MoH: 1) I ALWAYS despised the "T" rating for WW2 games (of which, MoH is the most guilty; I always believed this to be a disservice and near disgrace to the memory of those who fought) and 2) imo, the games of the franchise just haven't been as good in the past 7 years or so.

    But, what is most striking is the revelation of a deep personal choice that you shared. Sometimes we, as gamers and a society as a whole, get wrapped up in making even lesser debates into a debacle. And we sometimes forget the people who have been effected. Thank you for sharing your story and point of view and it's tragic to hear of your loss and that time period will always be a reminder of the evil mankind is capable.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:55 PM
    cyberninjasensei
  • cyberninjasensei

    Wow. On top of this being one of the best Soapboxes yet, I'm also kinda stricken mute, to an extent.

    My wife is currently being medically retired due to her deployment to Iraq. We are, as of this moment, still living on an Army post with a GameStop. I know some soldiers who would be mildly upset about the inclusion of the Taliban. Others. meanwhile, also recognize what the video game means as an artistic medium and would be more likely to try it out and make up their mind for themselves. And though I understand the governments thinking, I do agree with your observation of the double standard. Personally, I haven't put much thought into the new MoH: 1) I ALWAYS despised the "T" rating for WW2 games (of which, MoH is the most guilty; I always believed this to be a disservice and near disgrace to the memory of those who fought) and 2) imo, the games of the franchise just haven't been as good in the past 7 years or so.

    But, what is most striking is the revelation of a deep personal choice that you shared. Sometimes we, as gamers and a society as a whole, get wrapped up in making even lesser debates into a debacle. And we sometimes forget the people who have been effected. Thank you for sharing your story and point of view and it's tragic to hear of your loss and that time period will always be a reminder of the evil mankind is capable.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:53 PM
    cyberninjasensei
  • Notafanboythatiknow

    As usual Adam, you give us a very coherent opinion and at the same time, more room for further discussion. I think the problem is that the "war on terrorism" is a current event and therefore, some people are more susceptible emotionally to the idea of playing as the Taliban.

    It is a complex issue that shows that video games can be a forum to debate. Sadly, it also shows that we Americans are many times not very open to challenging ideas. I also applaud EA for their balls in making this game.

    Get well soon Adam.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:52 PM
    Notafanboythatiknow
  • RangerHero11b

    Lets not forget counterstrike, Counter terrorist vs terrorist. lol

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:50 PM
    RangerHero11b
  • V_Translanka

    I'd like to think soldiers today are mature enough to know wtf the difference is between what a video game is and real life.

    Also, as others have said, Sessler+Beard=Awesome...but is it even possible outside of the photoshop world...?

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:44 PM
    V_Translanka
  • V_Translanka

    I'd like to think soldiers today are mature enough to know wtf the difference is between what a video game is and real life.

    Also, as others have said, Sessler+Beard=Awesome...but is it even possible outside of the photoshop world...?

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:43 PM
    V_Translanka
  • Indabud

    Adam that is perhaps my favorite soapbox of all time. You expressed your thoughts, feelings, and ideas most eloquently; furthermore, you also took the time to see things from all sides, and that my friend is a rare gift to be able to view all sides of a situation, and make enlightened informed comments. Such things are never ever black and white cut and dried, for they are ever present is shades of grey wrapped in ambiguity.
    Adam i'm grieved at what happen to your family, and respect your coming forward with it to show how such a thing can still be so profound in ones psyche 3-4 generations from such a tragedy, and relate it towards the feelings of a mother in the immediate.
    It never ceases to amaze me: mans inhumanity towards his fellow man.
    Be blessed my brother,
    peace out

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:42 PM
  • Deidare

    I could type out why I think people take video games to seriously, and talk about those issues, etc. But it appears the 15+ comments before me have already done it. Damn I love being a gamer. And long live america (I had to do something patriotic).

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:34 PM
    Deidare
  • frictionman

    Not gonna lie, when I first saw the title I thought this was about Mass Effect (Tali).

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:18 PM
    frictionman
  • yourdog23

    Why do we have Gamestop, let alone any for-profit company on a military base? Let the PX on base be a tax-free, at cost entity, and let the government/military decide what they'll sell. Anyone who disagrees with the policies of the day can pay the for-profit companies off-base, or pay for shipping, just like the rest of us.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:18 PM
    yourdog23
  • teac77

    If it's banned, it will sell even better.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:13 PM
    teac77
  • JDarkley

    The media only exaggerates or misrepresents the facts of the matter just so they can use the negativity they themselves generate to sell papers/ gain ratings. Fox News did the exact thing concerning Mass Effects love scene and Glenn Beck does it every night just as Michael Moore does it with every one of his films. Journalism isn't about reporting anymore, it's about profit. Give your audience something to get angry about and then you've hooked another sucker that will keep tuning in.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 6:05 PM
    JDarkley
  • a2203c

    not to be mean but adam is of jews decent or what?

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:56 PM
  • hollywoodjim

    It should be all Taliban, all of the time. We should all be all Taliban, all of the time. Throw your wife and daughters down the well and grab the cutest little boy within reach. COEXIST. It takes all kinds. Walk a mile in their shoes. Turn the other cheek, and then turn again. Burn your bible, TRUST ME , NO ONE WILL CARE. Certainly not the liberal press. And as far as all the terrible rumors of maltreatment of females, if this were true I'm sure a staunch, formidable group such as NOW (National Organization of Women) would have come out very strongly against such activities. And I haven't heard ANYTHING from them, so it must be all lies. Women in the muslim world have complete equality across the board in all aspects of life. Get it straight. The liberal agenda has crushed the American spirit, we only live to comply and apologize. Ali-akbar indeed.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:53 PM
    hollywoodjim
  • mrsirman

    i like the idea of them not selling it on the camp sites. cuz when we think of solders most of us think fratboy, but there are also people that dont play video games too and they may find it offensive. nothing wrong with the game, but still.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:50 PM
  • wraith6788

    It's refreshing to hear an argument coming from a point of understanding. I disagree with the decision but it is important to understand the position of the other side, especially when it is the families of our fallen men and women in uniform. Hopefully the game community can evangelize tactfully on this as with others issues without coming off as pigheaded and insensitive.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:47 PM
    wraith6788
  • critterforhire

    I believe video games, like all other forms of media, should covey a story. Part of most stories is a central conflict. The main conflict in this game is between America/Allied forces, and the Taliban in Afghanistan. So, yes I don't believe in censoring the game. However, I see the view point of the Army as well. You cannot send young men to fight and possibly die in a war thousands of miles away while doing to your part to emulate the the way in which these young men die. While the Army may not have the ability to completely censor the game, I think that their move while not in my opinion justified, showed some empathy towards the families and loved ones of said military personnel. At any rate, good show Sessler.

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:42 PM
    critterforhire
  • RPG-fan

    If we can't play as the Taliban, the terrorists wins!!!

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:40 PM
    RPG-fan
  • Darthjacob22

    @RangerHero11b
    Case and point. MW2 has insurgents obviously based on Taliban killing Army Rangers, and yet no one makes any hooplah about it because they're not directly named as the Taliban. And anyone who played the MoH beta knows that they're not even refered to as Taliban, they're refered to as "Insurgents". In fact, the most popular recruitment tool the army uses is MW2!

    Posted: September 7, 2010 5:36 PM
    Darthjacob22
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