Feedback -- Metroid: Other M Edition

Posted: September 1, 2010
Feedback -- Metroid: Other M Edition
With Adam Sessler out this week, the Feedback crew mutinies and takes the ship into uncharted waters. Well, okay. Not really. But we do talk about Metroid: Other M, the news, and much more. Check it out!

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  • StarWars_Enigma

    (Double post fail lol)

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:54 PM
  • StarWars_Enigma


    We only get the monthly increase, not the yearly one. If I remember correctly from reading MajorNelson, The states got hit with the yearly increase while our monthly only went up a dollar and our yearly stays the same. I think thats how they are doing it because like you said, us Canadians get screwed on alot of the features XBL has to offer

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:53 PM
  • StarWars_Enigma


    We only get the monthly increase, not the yearly one. If I remember correctly from reading MajorNelson, The states got hit with the yearly increase while our monthly only went up a dollar and our yearly stays the same. I think thats how they are doing it because like you said, us Canadians get screwed on alot of the features XBL has to offer

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:51 PM
  • vermanshane

    I live in Canada I don't get most of these features as fellow Canadians know. So why are we charged extra for someone else s perks? Whatever though will pay it cause its what my friends are on...and well Halo Reach

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:45 PM
  • EdSabre

    Abbie loves Bayonetta. Therefore, I love Abbie. Great feedback!

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:37 PM
  • HiguKai

    Abbie, the reason your review upset me was not because you did not like the game. I understand that people have their own opinions, and that's fine.

    The reason your review upset me was because it seemed like the only actual reason you were against it was that Samus was being portrayed differently than usual, and differently than what you expected her to be like. I did not like that your personal opinions got in the way of you making a good review. I believe that you should have looked at the game more objectively.

    Different is not always bad. And it certainly wasn't in this case (in my opinion). If you had read the original manga, perhaps you wouldn't have been so taken aback by Samus's characterization.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:30 PM
  • scantron1

    Anyone else having a problem getting this to play??

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:10 PM
  • topgamer101

    I actually prefer some reviewers to be brutally honest with their feeling because then I get a harsher review to put my opinion too. I still haven't played the game myself and intend to rent it, but based on what I've watched and heard and read I'm probably going to end up agreeing with Abbie more than I wouldn't about this game.

    Story is important to me and that it makes sense. Now I'm not always good at picking up plot holes and what not but several things I've heard about probably shouldn't happen, at least given the chronological time that this game takes place. I still think it might be a slight clashing of cultures as well as just giving definition to a character that had very little to begin with.

    Either way, I'll rent it and decide myself. Again, thank you Abbie for doing what you did and I'm sorry so many idiots and bigots and whatever else people did had to say because a lot of that is truly uncalled for. Rebuke her in an intelligent way, not by being an redundant @$$ about it.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:09 PM
  • StarWars_Enigma

    I don't think it was the fact that you didn't like the game, Abbie, that the whole firestrom happened because like you guys said, no one had played the game yet. But I think the real reason people were so upset is because the review didn't seem to focus on the actual game as just a blatant rant about Samus' characterisation. You had little tidbits here and there about the game but the game should encompass the whole review, not tidbits of it. Thats just my opinion of it, anyway

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:07 PM
  • Luigitornado

    I still disagree.

    Her character development does make sense.

    It is beyond me (since you still didn't talk about the manga, which was written before the primes) why you think Samus was out of character. She spends most of her time in isolation, and had a traumatizing childhood event (read the manga). How can you assess her personality when she is rarely given a chance to express herself? Or interact with people?

    I was talking to a friend of mine about the review. He told me that you guys tend to rate games lower if they try something different. I guess this was one of those cases. Seemed like you just wanted to play the Primes again. As far as I'm concerned Nintendo was keeping the experience fresh.

    And the controls are not difficult. If they are, you are just thinking too hard.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:02 PM
  • pigtails33

    abbie's review is why i didn't buy it

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:01 PM
  • pigtails33

    abbie's review is why i didn't buy it

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:00 PM
  • Canid117

    The area around Abbie's eyes are very dark... how much sleep do you get Heppe? And how many un-clever Hepatitis jokes have been made at your expense because of your last name?

    And according to WestEgg's inflation calculator

    "What cost $50 in 2002 would cost $59.28 in 2009.

    Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2009 and 2002,
    they would cost you $50 and $41.02 respectively. "

    So the inflation argument is technically valid but yes a platinum service would be nice.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:55 PM
  • Myndsync

    so while everyone else is praising/demeaning the review and feedback based on their feelings of Metroid: Other M, or typing out a comment about the Xbox live price raise, i have decided to go a different route....

    FINALLY someone who defends the Star Wars Prequels!!!!! Yes i have to agree that i do not think that 1, 2, and 3 are as good as 4, 5, and 6... but i understand WHY Lucas made the movies like they are. The Star Wars movies are meant to tell the story of "The Chosen One"/the Skywalker Family. If u don't see Anakin crying like a little bitch in the basement on Tatooine, the points not going to get across that this is one messed up person. The movies were intended to be watched in sequential order, so that u can see the progress of Anakin's fulfillment of the Prophecy.

    anyways... flame me for not staying on the topics of this feedback, i don't care.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:50 PM
  • Yobekcir

    Its called a PS3, Go buy one and play free. or shut it and cough $60. No mater how many people ask for it they wont, especially with halo reach around the corner and gears of war 3(that last of the trilogy)

    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:29 PM
  • pigtails33


    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:24 PM
  • Cutebrute

    Well done again Feedback. Matt did a good job filling in for Adam this week; I even liked his segways. Keep up the good work everyone.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:22 PM
  • CraziRabidFanboi

    yeah, can't they just strip all the extra crap no one needs and offere and xbox live free version. Call it Xbox live minus if you have to.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:08 PM
  • MisterBrown

    Ahhh....my brain is going to explode with all the directions that Feedback bent it in today. In an attempt at organization:

    1. Why do other websites, gaming mags, etc, have similar criticisms to Abbie's, yet gloss over them? - Now, I don't mingle with other reviewers, but I often wonder if they come from what appears to be such solid backgrounds in English and/or literature as the editorial staff at XPlay (I heard Morgan recently say that "we're mostly all English majors here," which is what's spurring this assumption). Therefore, the importance of story and character development may be greater to Abbie and her colleagues than to a reviewer who focuses on gameplay and is possibly not as tuned into how story interacts with gameplay; those reviewers may be ones that still see stories in games as mere garnish. As games progress, I believe this stance is unfortunate, especially in the light of recent storytelling in titles such as Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain, and the interaction between story and play will only become more crucial as time moves on. In terms of other critics forgiving or even enjoying the gameplay, my only guess is that the mentioned hypothesis that reviewers fear criticizing the almighty Metroid is accurate. Possibly, they sincerely do like the action; however, even in those cases, you STILL have to admit that what is enjoyable about Metroid: Other M isn't consistent with what made the gameplay for the past 20+ years so groundbreaking and influential. To be fair, I haven't played this title, so I couldn't even speak on how far the new game has or has not strayed from the franchise; I only know that the arguments presented by Abbie and her colleagues seem to be exceptionally well supported in this regard.

    2. The feminist argument - Really, hecklers in the peanut gallery, are you paying attention to all that's being said here? This Feedback must have mentioned the "place in the timeline" argument a dozen times to try to remind these trolls that it is the game's chronological placement that primarily makes Samus's vulnerability so off-putting. Abbie's not calling for all female characters to be sexless and hallow; it simply doesn't make sense for her to be affected in this manner at this point of her life. Again, I know Feedback drilled this point in, but in case the haters missed it again...there you go.

    3. Will Metroid remain this way from here on out? - I highly doubt it. Several other reviews I read referred to this gameplay as an "experiment," and the praise of how well the "experiment" went varied greatly. Oddly enough, it seems that the higher ratings came from reviewers' admiration for simply taking the risk with an experiment, and not necessarily from the level of success that the experiment yielded. Therefore, I'd think that future titles would re-evaluate their approaches. Plus, critically, nobody liked the story or cutscenes.

    Excellent, professional, intelligent podcast once again.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 5:56 PM
  • Aldowyn

    For the Feedback crew: What would you think if Nintendo developed some of the Metroid games in-house in a classic or Prime style, and Team Ninja developed some of them in a Other M style, kind of like the Treyarch / Infinity Ward / Sledgehammer games thing with CoD?

    Posted: September 1, 2010 5:50 PM