Talkabout: Metroid: Other M

Posted: August 27, 2010
Talkabout: Metroid: Other M
Abbie and Matt sit down to discuss why they were so disappointed with Metroid: Other M.

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  • nugbug

    She's wrong. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Game is sexist?!?! How, because she takes orders from a superior who happens to be male? Give me a break.

    Game is good. Some of the cut scenes are your typical Japanese style cuts with there normal Japanese cliches but who cares. It is what it is. You'll enjoy the game. It re-imagines Metroid and thats not a bad thing. Play the game, make up your own mind and ignore her review. She is WRONG!!

    Posted: September 3, 2010 8:34 PM
  • 909990999900

    i hope she gets fires what a idiot

    Posted: September 3, 2010 2:19 AM
  • brinmat

    Meanwhile, in the real world, Abbie has to give off her reviews to Morgan Webb to read on TV.

    Why? Why couldn't Abbie read her own review? Why does she have to write it for some former model to deliver it on the air?

    Maybe the people at G4 need to look in a mirror and deal with their own sexist practices before bashing Nintendo.

    Posted: September 3, 2010 12:23 AM

    i am so sick of people calling this game sexist IT IS NOT SEXIST!!! they even explain why its better she wait and have access to her weapons at another time. also why is being able to recharge missles such a bad thing? you use them allllloooot more in this game and its also a way to keep people from playing the whole game in 3rd person. ok now on to the "review" haha nvm a review usually means they talk in depth about the game all i read was "this is not what i wanted, i have an idea of what samus should be and she isnt" so it gets a 2 out of 5.

    lets not even mention how FUN thats right FUN FUUUUUNNNN the game is to play sure they could have done a better job with the first person it has its hick ups every now and then, but it doesnt even matter. i go into first person all the time and not just for bosses, for everyone. also i love the way she acts it shows that underneath that armor that everyone knows and fears shes a beautiful women with with feelins. it would suck if she was a bad ass and had a cool saying for everything "LETS ROCK BABY"....no lets not. AND NOW FOR THE BIGGETS ISSUE.....the only time i saw samus butt was prob in the opening movie and it wasnt even in your face just hey samus butt over there, which we have seen in other metroid games.

    in closeing i find it funny that in the review morgan said the exact same things abbie said and even in the talkabouts all u do is back her up which leads me to believe that well.....have YOU even played the game?????

    Posted: September 2, 2010 3:08 PM
  • ChuckW

    One of my favorite things about Metroid Prime was the lonely, isolated feeling you got from the story and silence of the main character. I would have accepted the idea of the story, possibly, had it been well written, but even positive reviews point out its naive and shallow portrayal of Samus in this game. It seems counterproductive to type of environment that is required to create an atmosphere akin to the other games in the Metroid series. Imagine if Link or Mario suddenly had self esteem issues and hackneyed, unoriginal inner conflicts. Other M is a nightmare version of any Metroid I've ever known, and I'm fairly relatively unfamiliar with the series. Why did Team Ninja decide to erase the basic trophes and building blocks of Metroid even familiar to nonfans like me? e. It reminds me of the misinterpretation and watering down of series like Resident Evil or Prince Of Persia when they were brought to the screen. It's also very confusing that the gaming media, with the exception of G4 and Game Informer, has widely accepted such a negative portrayal of a gaming icon. This is a Metroid game! You have to raise your standards a little. This is the last Metroid game we'll be seeing for a while. It would be similar to Solid Snake being replaced by a whiny-... never mind. The story in a game is by far the most important thing to me. I can't play a game, no matter how good, that has a watered down or nonresistant plot especially if the portrayal of the most important character is downright offensive. I can easily say I won't be playing this game on the basis of its story alone. They should have just left Samus alone.

    Posted: September 2, 2010 2:43 AM
  • HiguKai

    From what I see, their main reason for giving Metroid: Other M such a poor score is "We had a different perception of Samus as a character. She is not portrayed how we want her to be portrayed, therefore the game is bad."

    This is wrong. Reviewers should not let their personal opinions influence their judgment. If they cannot be objective, they should not review the game.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 7:22 PM
  • tim0285

    It seems like the chick is crying sexism,and the dude is agreeing cause he thinks she's hot.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 4:35 PM
  • motobrokane

    holy jeez woman...you have it all so wrong.

    how can you possibly talk about samus as if shes some depressed housewife? want GRRRRL power? strap on your combat boots and head to lilith fair.

    is it really so hard to imagine that some one could feel so alone and separated? she has powers that separate her from everyone. she has spent most of her life alone. shes an orphan. what else do you need to define ALONE???

    why shouldnt she have some issues? it seems you were hoping for cameron from terminator. sorry!

    this is easily the worst review i have ever heard. not surprising from the "network" that thinks COPS and cheaters are the bee knees.

    all you did was whine like the 12 year old girl you claim samus to be! you barely touched on all the great things this game has to offer!

    you have no business reviewing games, you obviously play them as your "gig" and not your hobby. somehow you found a way to get paid to be a troll! and just look at all the people who wont be playing this amazing game because your aunt "flo" was in town. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS AS A GAME CRITIC!

    go lace up your doc martins and put on some bikini kill, youll feel better about yourself, and ill feel better that you are nowhere near a video game and a camera.

    Posted: September 1, 2010 6:07 AM
  • Pillowfire

    This is the dumbest comment system I have ever seen. Every time I try to post, it pops up a message saying, "please refrain from profanity" even though I have zero profanity in my text (I can't even find what it's talking about).

    In fact, it's completely retarded. Who put's a profanity filter on a site like this, especially when the hosts don't get a pop-up saying, "please refrain from profanity" whenever they curse. I'm done here.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 7:52 PM
  • Ares42

    While Abbie might have a point in the whole sexist thing to begin with, she sorta invalidates herself when she makes the "because she needs permission from a _man_" comment a few minutes later.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 6:14 PM
  • KellenDunk

    Abbie wrote this without even playing the game. She started her outline the day that she heard the name "Team Ninja"

    Posted: August 31, 2010 4:43 PM
  • Phoenicks

    There seems to be an overwhelming consensus that says that G4 never did their research on the Samus Aran character and, like many other fans, painted a distorted portrait of her in their minds.

    Perhaps allowing Heppe or Webb or anyone else at G4 HQ to read the manga and reassess would be interesting. I doubt that they'll even see what any of us are writing here, nor do I believe that they'll actually do what fans are asking and will continue to portray Samus Aran incorrectly- as the female Master Chief.

    There's a reason why video game movies are universally terrible: the characters within are all interchangeable boards of wood participating in interchangeable stories. Fighting interchangeable wars with interchangeable weapons.

    Think what you will, Abbie Heppe, but understand that you've missed the point and many people here are calling you on it.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 4:17 PM
  • kirablaize

    And since you guys complain about regenerating health, I'll be expecting you to complain about it in Halo and Gears of War from now on.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 3:50 PM
  • camcam0047

    This makes me sad face. :(

    Posted: August 31, 2010 1:32 PM
  • 3rdDimension

    I find the whole matter a bit laughable because we are sitting here expressing emotional feelings about a game. From the reader comments to Abbie and the other editors opinion of the game. LOL. It's really silly if you stand back and look at it all from another perspective. Sane people would probably tell us to get over ourselves as there are more pressing matters in the world to talk about and address other than an alien busting videogame character being portrayed as sexist and emotinal.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 10:29 AM
  • mythxd

    This review is ridiculous. Abbey stop reviewing games.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 9:15 AM
  • mronoc89

    News Break: There's no objective standard by which the judge the quality of entertainment media. Any review is always going to be based on an opinion. To criticize a reviewer for having opinions is idiotic. The only reason to be this upset about a review is because you're mad that it didn't validate your pre-determined judgements, and only a sad, pathetic, insecure individual would take the time to insult someone over the internet for that reason.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 8:59 AM
  • marioeasie

    games are made for everyone they may not like it and other people love it like it or not this is the best metroid game every mad if you dont like it after playing it thats your problem gonna buy it right now!

    Posted: August 31, 2010 6:45 AM
  • sinosleep

    Wow, this game sounds AWFUL.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 1:39 AM
  • Koda89

    Let me just say that the idea that a man giving a woman orders being sexist in and of ITSELF is sexist. It is like, so what, it's ok for a woman to give a woman orders, and maybe ok for a woman to give a man orders, but whoa, as soon as a man gives a woman an order it is not ok? That's total bullcrap.

    Plus, I don't think having Samus as a crying little girl when faced with Ridley ruins her as they make it seem like it does, because in the official manga, Ridly kills her parents right in front of her when she was a little kid. Hell, seeing how Samus doesn't speak in the other games, who is to say that Samus wasn't scared all those other times as well?

    And as for Samus not being overly sexualized, ha don't get me started. Your reward for beating Metroid under a set time limit WAS SEEING HER IN HER UNDERWEAR/BIKINI! They dangle that reward of titillation to get you to beat the game as fast as possible. And then there is the Zero Suit. Oh dear lord the Zero Suit. Look, I don't care what character they are, as soon as they put on a skin tight outfit(like the Zero Suit) they become sexualized, because a skin tight suit shows off all of their curves, and leaves little to the imagination. And let's not forget that Metroid Fusion has different titillating ending pictures depending on how you beat the game. At least two Metroid games reward you with Samus in some pretty revealing outfits, so you cannot sit there and tell me with a straight face that she isn't overly sexualized. And in two games, Zero Mission and Smash Bros Brawl, she has large portions of the games in her Zero Suit, so in some of the games, the fan service is in the gameplay itself.

    Oh, and I find it funny that Samus seems to always be the fallback character for an example of how female characters should be in a video game, you mean silent and have very little characterization? I mean before Other M, the only other time Samus was truly fleshed out, character wise, is the Metroid manga. Hell, if ANYTHING, this whole experience actually made me realize just how bland of a character Samus Aran really is.

    Sorry for the kind of long winded post, but I just had to get this off my chest, because as mush as this game might have pissed you guys(the G4 crew) off, your view on the game, and of Samus herself, has pissed me off even more.

    Posted: August 31, 2010 1:22 AM