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Talkabout: Metroid: Other M

Posted: August 27, 2010
Talkabout: Metroid: Other M
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Abbie and Matt sit down to discuss why they were so disappointed with Metroid: Other M.

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  • TigerNightmare

    This video would have been more productive and interesting if Abbie discussed her review with someone around the office who liked it better instead of someone to back up every single word she said. It just comes off as defensive and dismissive of anyone who would disagree. The G4 review has me a bit scared about my pre-order, but I will remain a skeptic if the reviews are not uniform in Abbie's favor.

    The thing about holding the Wii remote up and holding A to replenish health and missiles being "stupid" as Morgan says, I really don't understand that criticism. It seems like too big a deal is made over what amounts to a personal nitpick. How is it more stupid than creating an energy cocoon by exploding a power bomb to convert ammunition reserves into health or using bombs that harm and kill enemies to reach previously unreachable heights? Seeing the crystal flash in the game demo will make you want to know how to do it, but the conditions to use it are too strict for it to ever be useful. Anyway, there's tons of games where ducking, standing still or holding a button will replenish health and it might not seem reasonably plausible, even in a sci-fi world, but just about anything is possible in the game world, be it missiles and energy from exploded alien corpses or a function magically built within a power suit created by bird people.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 10:44 PM
    TigerNightmare
  • 3rdDimension

    HEY ABBIE AND CREW!!! You want to complain about sexist, take a look at this history of Metroid and come back and talk to me about Other M being sexist!

    http://www.gamesradar.com/f/ a-brief-history-of-samus-in-he r-underwear/a-2010083016424675 1073

    Posted: August 30, 2010 10:13 PM
    3rdDimension
  • kiljoy187

    thank you for this video. It is proof to me that Abbie's review was almost completely based on her views on sexism "there are phrases in this game that makes me livid..." , " If someone liked that characterization (excuse my mispelling im in a hurry) I would not want to be their friend... ?" ITS A VIDEO GAME.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 8:26 PM
    kiljoy187
  • xfireice

    OK so this whole review sounded like it was just pulled out there asses. the whole story is based on the original metroid manga with some parts of metroid fusion. the reason why Samus was portrayed as a little girl when she encountered him was a major subplot in the manga, but i guess you have never read it. i believe if you read the manga first the play the game it will make a lot more sense then just playing the game. I think the game is great and it should have gotten a better review. If i had to give the review for the talkabout i would give it a 0 out of 5 because it was a wrong and it should get a better review score

    Posted: August 30, 2010 6:56 PM
  • xfireice

    OK so this whole review sounded like it was just pulled out there asses. the whole story is based on the original metroid manga with some parts of metroid fusion. the reason why Samus was portrayed as a little girl when she encountered him was a major subplot in the manga, but i guess you have never read it. i believe if you read the manga first the play the game it will make a lot more sense then just playing the game. I think the game is great and it should have gotten a better review. If i had to give the review for the talkabout i would give it a 0 out of 5 because it was a wrong and it should get a better review score

    Posted: August 30, 2010 6:52 PM
  • kirablaize

    I don't have anything against opinions. If people don't like a game, that's fine. However, when you're a "professional" game review site, you cannot, CANNOT rate a game on OPINION ALONE.

    The original review barely talked about the game itself. Instead it harped on the "sexist" angle. The whole review came across as "This isn't the metroid game I'm used to. Samus isn't the character I thought she was, so this whole game sucks." The amusing thing is that just about every review out there brings this up. And just about all of them still score it good. Why? Because it doesn't get in the way of the game! She's still going around being a badass! Hell, walking into danger and agreeing to shut off your most powerful weapons etc could count as a badass move itself. On top of that, anyone who's bothered to read the manga know what to expect. You guys should try it sometime. Because you can be a badass without even with weaknesses.

    And then you have Matt saying that the other reviewers must be "blinded by nostalgia". As if G4's opinion is the only one that matters in the world. And then, on top of that you feel the need to insult your viewers/readers by harping on grammatical errors.

    There's a reason why no one takes G4 seriously.

    Finally, to those who complain about the game being "Too japanese". Um...it's a japanese series! What the HELL did you expect??

    Posted: August 30, 2010 6:38 PM
    kirablaize
  • Caladorcp

    This isnt a review, its a childish rant. How is it sexest? Her voice sounds fine to me. Also its not sexist for the fact that a man tells her she cant use her cool waepons/power-ups. You two wouldnt have said even one thing about that if a women told a male version of samus to not use weapons/power-ups.

    On top of that, What's with comparing it to "the real world"? "If you run out of chemically propelled explosives just think about them"....are you kidding me? It's a game. How you ever noticed games are practically never like the real world?

    I just have to say, what's with the pee thing? Are you kidding me...really? thats completely unprofessional.

    Also whats with talking about how the angry comments? Also completely unprofessional

    You have no idea how many complaints I have about this review, I really wish I could see you two in personally just so I could spew out every single cuss word I could at you in the meanest way possible. In fact I joined this website today just to complain about how retarted your entire review is and what a huge load of BS your every word has been in this review

    With that said I'm glad to have commented poorly on you and now say, go suck it, biotch

    Posted: August 30, 2010 5:57 PM
  • kirablaize

    I don't have anything against opinions. If people don't like a game, that's fine. However, when you're a "professional" game review site, you cannot, CANNOT rate a game on OPINION ALONE.

    The original review barely talked about the game itself. Instead it harped on the "sexist" angle. The whole review came across as "This isn't the metroid game I'm used to. Samus isn't the character I thought she was, so this whole game sucks." The amusing thing is that just about every review out there brings this up. And just about all of them still score it good. Why? Because it doesn't get in the way of the game! She's still going around being a badass! Hell, walking into danger and agreeing to shut off your most powerful weapons etc could count as a badass move itself. On top of that, anyone who's bothered to read the manga know what to expect. You guys should try it sometime. Because you can be a badass without even with weaknesses.

    And then you have Matt saying that the other reviewers must be "blinded by nostalgia". As if G4's opinion is the only one that matters in the world. And then, on top of that you feel the need to insult your viewers/readers by harping on grammatical errors.

    There's a reason why no one takes G4 seriously.

    Finally, to those who complain about the game being "Too japanese". Um...it's a japanese series! What the HELL did you expect??

    Posted: August 30, 2010 5:23 PM
    kirablaize
  • Phategod

    I'm not disagreeing with abbie seeing as how I haven't played the game But this review is kind of the reason I wish G4 subscribed to a multi-authored review system not that I dont trust Abie's opinion but to not everyones is the same she seemed very polarized at the preview she had months ago. I know it will get tossed around on Feedback, and abbie's reviews re nothing but stellar and professional however I would appreciate a few other various opinions.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 5:08 PM
  • Caladorcp

    Wow, I'm not just saying this because I'm a metroid fan or whatever, but you're review sucked...really...it did. And when you started talking about comments you'll get, that just made you two sound like complete jack-asses.

    Also why is it sexest to have a man restrain what samus can do? If a women was limiting what a guy samus would do you probably wouldnt have said anything. Am I right? (yes) You took it that way, because maybe YOU have some sexest thoughts honestly the sexest issue didnt even cross my mind until you said anything.

    Also why are you complaining about samus's character? she didn't even have a personallity until NOW! how can you tell what samus is like without her even speaking a word until this late into the franchise?

    In fact this is why I hate people who say they are huge fans of metroid and say Ninja Team screawed up. If anything seems to deviate (gameplay, characters, story) from the previous installments they wine, bitch, and moan about how everything changed is wrong.

    You two are just so frustrating that I joined this site today just to tell you two how stupid you are. Good job making jack-asses of yourselves on the internet and showing all of us how annoying you are. :)

    Posted: August 30, 2010 3:59 PM
  • mronoc89

    I'm kind of tired of seeing praise of the game for simply being "different", and even more so of seeing arguments against the review for listing these "different" elements as negatives. She doesn't say these features are bad because their different. The word she uses is "weird", implying that it just doesn't feel right.

    Yes, doing new and different things is important and admirable, but to automatically lavish something with praise for being different kind of defeats the whole purpose of the experimentation. Some experiments don't turn out how they should, but that's not a real failure of innovation. Innovation is only failed if we refuse to separate the good innovations from the bad. So criticism like this is necessary for the process of innovation to work. And they should definitely be criticized for needlessly tacking the whole thing on to a solitary wii remote, when having a nunchuck set up would have allowed for better maneuverability via the analog stick, smoother aiming through removal of the transition, and possibly could have allowed for a more reliable system of aiming in 3rd person.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 3:46 PM
    mronoc89
  • XRedWolf5566

    well looks like im going to have to flip flop on this one. i can see why now, the controls, voice acting, ect... and the way morgan did things kind of flipped my lid. at the end of the day though, it's still a metriod and i do wan't to play it. but lets be honest, didn't samus rock that big booty in super smash bros. brawl? lesson learned here is let retro studios keep doing the metriod games and don't let sexist team ninja with the whole japanese school girl thing do another metriod game ever again! anyone remember the lawsuit againts tobunobu itagaki?

    Posted: August 30, 2010 2:30 PM
    XRedWolf5566
  • Cell34

    I could see getting all up in arms if this was a completely unfair/biased/insulting review. Like if Abbie got on the screen and said "The main problem with Metroid is it is a complete load of crap just like all of the people that play it", then sure... get angry.

    But, it is a pretty well thought out review. To the people that are saying it is nonsense that they are focusing on the poor story. ??????????? Really? Yeah OK, lets go back to the days of Joust and Pong and Dig Dug. Because plot lines and stories don't matter right?

    Granted, I love all those games I just mentioned but if you are only focused on mindlessly shooting things, should you really even be playing Metroid to begin with? Maybe Big Game Hunter is more up your alley.

    I remember years ago reading a newspaper movie review where they gave Fight Club a 1 out of 5 because of all the fighting. That upset me to no end because after reading the review, I was convinced the person never even saw the film. Abbie on the other hand clearly played the game (Which, by the way, you haven't).

    I understand why Wii owners would be upset. You guys get like, two good games a year if that so when one of them is rated harshly, its got to be kind of depressing. But don't get mad at Abbie for having a system with last gen graphics and a casual gamer base. Get mad at Nintendo. Because back in the day, Nintendo was the king of the universe.

    Now it is the pretzels sitting in the corner at a party. Oh sure, some people might eat them but only because there are no other options around.

    NINJA CHAD

    Posted: August 30, 2010 2:17 PM
    Cell34
  • sodared

    Nintendo needs to go old school and create a 2D side scrolling Metroid.
    Also they probably should have had the classic controller as an option.
    Oh well, better luck next time Nintendo.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 12:16 PM
    sodared
  • RPGCrazied

    I can't even watch this video. Its degrading as a Metroid fan to say the least. Just to hear them spout all this nonsense just makes me rage. Thanks for reminding me why I hate G4.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 12:15 PM
    RPGCrazied
  • iGuy

    Are you seriously saying that the regenergation system is stupid because it's not realistic. You're right there's no way a space bounty hunter would be able to regenerate while in the middle of battle with a space monster. That's totally unrealstic. I wanted to like Super Mario Galaxy but the way they demontrated the effects of gravity on such low density planets was just too unbeleivable.

    Seriously guys, did you forget you were playing a video game, isn't that the point? Saying something in a video game is "stupid" becasue it's unrealistic is just stupid.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 11:11 AM
    iGuy
  • horseflesh

    It's interesting how contentious this issue is. I'm not a fan of metroid, well, that's almost unfair to say because I haven't played any since the first, and back then the side scrolling game didn't do much for me. Largely they still don't, but anyway, I only watched the review here because of that prospective contentiousness.

    On to the point...Your review made me think of the way women are percieved in Japan. And it may be that there is some sort of gap in your method of addressing it. That it may be perceived differently for a large part than you perceive it. That isn't to say having your romances dashed is anything to be happy about. Taking a largely vague and "left to the player" human side to the story is going to do this, becoming specific about the contents thereof after years of vagary is going to mismatch for some. That can be a problem for something like a video game where humanizing the characters can diminish their quality. Leaving it to the player can be a better solution. I'm wondering if the guys who made this can relate to your point of view, or if it would be far too far out on a limb (in Japan) to make her what you perceive her to be. And whether or not they should have become explicit at all.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 10:13 AM
    horseflesh
  • erosennin987

    you what would solve their problem. the Wii MotionPlus. i'm hoping it'll help more.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 8:59 AM
    erosennin987
  • Atari_Prime

    I admire G4 for being willing to give a negative review to such a high profile game. It often seems that the blockbusters get a free pass and univerally good reviews when sometimes they do have flaws that are overlooked. (Halo just popped into my head, take that for what you will.)

    And moreso, I am glad that G4 is willing to voice their opinion on the subject rather than toning it down. I will have to admit in recent years Morgan has moved toward uber-feminism. Not really sure she plays games anymore, but that's a different story. I actually do listen to G4's reviews and I tend to think they hit the nail on the head with about 90% of games. The only time I can recall a game getting a so so review that turned out to be a great game, at least to me, was San Francisco Rush: 2049. At first it seemed like a simple game, but after playing it for a bit the subtle aspects of the game grew on me and it became one of my favorite games of that era.

    Thank you G4 for standing up for an honest opinion no matter how much flak it may cause. The true gamers, and not fanboys who haven't played the game yet, will appreciate it. I give you a 5 out of 5.

    Posted: August 30, 2010 8:43 AM
    Atari_Prime
  • Catman789

    they say that the story is wrong, but a trailer from ign showed that it was directly after the end of super metroid, and it took me no thought to see where the story came from, this game will be amazing, so stfu you fanboys at g4, you guys are too easy on mircrosoft games and too hard on wii games. i cant wait to see your conduit 2 review

    Posted: August 30, 2010 4:45 AM
    Catman789
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