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Talkabout: Metroid: Other M

Posted: August 27, 2010
Talkabout: Metroid: Other M
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Abbie and Matt sit down to discuss why they were so disappointed with Metroid: Other M.

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  • STCook

    I love the people that are saying that the staff's reaction to some of the controversial parts of the game are being feminist. You people are obviously teenage white males with wealthy parents and have never had to deal with anything in your life. I'm talking to you Secondtooth. By saying that the reaction to the sexist influences in this game and by also saying that their reaction to the MW2 frag video was out of line is being ignorant. I'm sorry that neither of these situations have affected your life and that you won't ever understand how serious they are because mommy and daddy will always protect you. Ignorant people like you are the reason why these problems still exist to this day.

    Posted: August 28, 2010 2:18 AM
    STCook
  • joeshabadoo

    Hi Abbie, did it ever cross your mind that this character was fresh off the heals of experiencing quite a tragic and symbolic loss of something that held a certain large emotional attachment to her. Yes she encountered Ridley in the past and went in headstrong, but this game sees her in a situation/event after having experienced the greatest loss of her life since watching her parents die. You don't think that she may take on a different demeanor and be in a position to reflect upon her past? No you're automatically up in arms because she shows some f*#%ing vulnerability/femininity. She been bottling up tons of fear, remorse and regret throughout the process of her being sculpted into a protector of the galaxy by a reclusive and ancient race.

    Sorry that your stalwart hero showed something resembling a small array of emotion/attachment and a fear of death. Blow it out your ass you pompous feminist wench. I hope you read this and cry about that time your uncle molested you

    Blue vortex is on the right wavelength

    Posted: August 28, 2010 1:50 AM
  • snfullif

    It is really no surprise Samus, in the beginning, was far from the bounty hunter every one knew. I am reminded of James Howlett. For those of you comic buffs, he grew up to become Wolverine. A young sickly boy who father owned a wealthy estate. I welcome the oppertunity to learn about Samus's past. Perhaps there is a greater reason as to why she never spoke in any Metroid games up to now. If you like the game, fine. I agree and yet do not agree with the review. Then again, I like playing video games that are controversial in nature.

    Posted: August 28, 2010 1:22 AM
    snfullif
  • Beath

    Japan loves Moi atm.. sadly

    Posted: August 28, 2010 1:11 AM
    Beath
  • Ressard

    I knew it. Very disappointing. Confusing tht IGN liked it so much. There's never really been such an extreme difference in opinion bt u guys. I'm also shocked that Nintendo let it go the way it did. A bit frustrating. Makes me wonder what other desperate attempts at "something fresh" they have up their sleeves. Geez. If it ain't broke...

    Posted: August 28, 2010 12:59 AM
  • LegatoSkyheart

    HEAVEN FORBID FOR SAMUS BEING HUMAN! AND A WOMAN! WHO LOST HER PARENTS WHEN SHE WAS LITTLE!
    omg This is like the only Metroid Game that actually has a freakin' Story.

    To those that are saying if they just suddenly changed Marcus Fenix or Master Chief.
    Just Think about it to yourself, Both Marcus and Chief talked in their games and developed their own character. Samus...NEVER TALKED UNTIL THIS GAME. Heck we never even knew what her past was!
    SHE HAD LITTLE CHARACTER!

    The Better comparison would be if they gave Gordon Freeman a voice and it turned out that Freeman complained a lot, and actually has EMOTIONS.

    Posted: August 28, 2010 12:52 AM
    LegatoSkyheart
  • bigchair

    seems to me like this game is getting bashed because its different from the previous ones in the series. i dont believe you should base your review on how you wanted the character to turn out but rather on the quality of the game itself.

    Posted: August 28, 2010 12:04 AM
    bigchair
  • kidego71

    Not that others' opinions affect my game buying, but that G4 review was a total joke. You SAY it has nothing to do with the "feminist angle" yet that was primarily what the reviewer bitched about the entire time. Im not sure I buy the whole "We all agree thing either"....I mean if you didnt and a review got THIS MUCH of a reaction from your viewers/readers would you admit it..highly doubt it.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:59 PM
    kidego71
  • Atavax

    basically everything said about this game's story could of been said about sc2's story substituting Samus with Kerrigan; but one received a 5/5 and the other a 2/5.. why? because they rated sc2 as just another rts, not as a continuation in the starcraft series, but they rated other M as a continuation of the Metroid series instead of just another action adventure game.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:47 PM
    Atavax
  • Tony267

    I think some of you are missing the point. The fact that Samus has never been portrayed this way throughout Metroid's history is the biggest problem. I mean if she ever would have been portrayed this way in the past it would be a little different. However, I highly doubt Metroid would have grown as popular as it has if that were the case. I haven't played the game and doubt I ever will, but judging by what I've read about and seen of the game I completely understand Abbie's feelings. To completely degrade such a strong and powerful character for the sake of some lame story is practically spitting in the face of Metroid's legacy.

    That's just my opinion though. So if you want to play the game then play it, but don't just say that because a female reviewed the game that they are being too sensitive about everything. Anyone should be able to see that what they did to the character just wasn't smart or tastful. I kind of feel bad for anyone who doesn't as least respect where Abbie (and many other people) are coming from with these feelings.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:37 PM
    Tony267
  • bubman237

    Odd. I'd like this game to sell well because it's Metroid but I'd also like it to sell horribly because I loved the Prime series so much.

    I agree with Abbie in that Samus Aran is a strong character and should be portrayed as such. Just from watching the cinematic cut-scenes, I could see where this game was treading and it didn't feel like Metroid. It felt like: random, scared blond chick with red suit, taking orders. Samus doesn't take orders.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:33 PM
    bubman237
  • bubman237

    Odd. I'd like this game to sell well because it's Metroid but I'd also like it to sell horribly because I loved the Prime series so much.

    I agree with Abbie in that Samus Aran is a strong character and should be portrayed as such. Just from watching the cinematic cut-scenes, I could see where this game was treading and it didn't feel like Metroid. It felt like: random, scared blond chick with red suit, taking orders. Samus doesn't take orders.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:32 PM
    bubman237
  • Atavax

    looks like a fairly polished game with few flaws in the mechanics and that it wasn't the structure that was bad, they just didn't like what it had to say.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:27 PM
    Atavax
  • Mekton

    I haven't played the game, so I can't provide any feed back about how it plays. However, if you are looking at a character like Samus you need to consider everything about her history and how it relates to the current story line. Read the comics from Nintendo Power http://www.metroid-database.co m/reader.php?d=sm/np_comics . Honestly does this game feel like something that fits Samus as a character?

    As George Santayana (according to Wikiquote) says: "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." I think that pretty much says it all. Change for the sake of change is not progress, and from what has been provided by the G4 staff I would say that this game is not progress, not for the character, not for the story, and definitely not for the series.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:18 PM
    Mekton
  • Lance20000

    Well I am glad that the issue was adressed by Matt Kail, its good to know that you all feel this way. IMO the review still seems a little weak, but you know what, it is what it is. I am going to look around and see what others have to say. Thank you for your opinion.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 11:11 PM
    Lance20000
  • gamerjes

    Almost exactly my thoughts on the game and a good expansion on the review. Nicely done...

    Posted: August 27, 2010 10:55 PM
    gamerjes
  • amorphe

    what the hell are you imagine? you people are sooo ignorant... Go read the manga before saying anything please.
    And no she has no right to give 2/5 to a game as polish as other M. Reasons she is giving are irrelevant for me, because i think this not objective at all, like she prefers blue instead of red.
    I know i will love this game because all the things that make a metroid are there; plus a new dynamic combat system.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 10:36 PM
    amorphe
  • amorphe

    what the hell are you imagine? you people are sooo ignorant... Go read the manga before saying anything please.
    And no she has no right to give 2/5 to a game as polish as other M. Reasons she is giving are irrelevant for me, because i think this not objective at all, like she prefers blue instead of red.
    I know i will love this game because all the things that make a metroid are there; plus a new dynamic combat system.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 10:31 PM
    amorphe
  • kid_vic

    Oh lordy. this game looked great from the start. also, it looked like it was going to be really story driven, and i'm a story hound of sorts. i love me some metroid. as soon as i heard the first details of the game play and game mechanics, i immediately began to doubt this game. everything i feared about this game is projected in the review. damn! well, i for one, am still going to play this game. i hope this doesn't murder the franchise for me.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 10:09 PM
    kid_vic
  • AngelsandDemons

    @Dr. Waffle....If that's the case, we should expect to see more poor reviews for video games that depict women in submissive roles at G4. A game like God of War 3 should have been ripped to shreads then. It's obvious that Abbey felt strongly and connected to Samus most likely because of her strong, heroic depiction as a female in a world of games devoid of many strong female archetypes. Therefore, for her, the games is horrible because Nintendo ruined the character she loved and all other gaming flaws in the product worsen the review. I understand this pathos inspired argument but it's still disconcerting.

    I thought the game looked weak from all the trailers and gameplay they shared early on because Samus appeared weak in her flashbacks, submissive to her commander, her monologue was too passive and overly words and stream of consciousness. But these facts bothered me because I am attached to the character I first played on my NES back in 5th grade. Nevertheless, I feel some type of analysis of the game should be given in terms of it being a stand alone title in the spirit of good journalism. Being a journalism major and English minor, your claims are made stronger by fairly addressing the opposition of your arguments.

    Posted: August 27, 2010 10:06 PM
    AngelsandDemons
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