Feedback -- Fiscally Yours Edition

Posted: August 12, 2010
Feedback -- Fiscally Yours Edition
On this week's Feedback, Adam Sessler, Morgan Webb, Kevin Kelly, and Abbie Heppe talk about the Wii's decline in financial results, Batman: Arkham City, Call of Duty: Black Ops, and answers some reader's questions.

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  • spiritsoftime

    Personally, for Kinect, I'd like to see a ninja game where you control the combat with actual karate moves. Who cares if it gets tiring? Not every game needs to be a three hour marathon. Plus, if its engrossing enough, people won't care that they're pretty much doing tae-bo while kicking some evil ninja butt.

    Frankly, I think if you hid the structure of a workout game behind a compelling narrative and a dynamic environment, the things that draw you into a "regular" game and make it fun, people would be more inclined to get off the couch because they want to be in that world, having that experience, and not focused on what you could more easily do with a mouse or controller.

    I think kinect is a great opportunity for the workout/fitness genre. If the genre can evolve past the sterile zen like environments and imitation gym/mini game sessions of its current incarnations to something that can compete with more mainstream titles in terms of storytelling and exploration, it has the potential to tap the hardcore audience which is what kinect needs if its going to make its motion control a lasting feature and something we NEED to have in our homes.

    Hopefully, a game developer takes that idea and runs with it because anything else, the menu navigation, mini game controls, is pretty much a gimmick and will never outgrow the controller comparison or set it apart from Nintendo and Sony's motion controllers.

    Posted: August 17, 2010 11:49 PM

    Before my rant begins, I just want to say how much fun I have watching and listening to Adam Sessler, Morgan Webb, Abbie Heppe, and others. Informative, funny, and I get my fill of what G4 is missing on the TV because Cops, Cheaters, and Campus PD SUCK ASS. The network, in my opinion, was so much better when we had more video game / comic book oriented shows on it. I think there was a point when they showed anime or something. Who knows. XPLAY, AOTS, and Ninja Warrior are the only shows (with a few exceptions) that keep the network alive in my heart. Now the actual rant...

    As I watched this I could help but think "when will Nintendo get its self out of the hole they dug?" Its understandable that they keep to the same thing they have been doing, however there was a point when Nintendo had some titles that weren't so family friendly. Back to what I'm "ranting" about, Nintendo has lost touch on how to properly regulate the good vs. bad games that can be marketed with their systems. The Wii has suffered a horrible blow from third party developers that continue to make HORRIBLE games. I will emit there is a fair number of games made by third party developers that are good, but that doesn't excuse the majority of "crap" that keeps being made. Although I'm only 19, and my understanding of how marketing techniques work for videos games is pretty meager, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo needs to reconsider their approach. Their first party developed games typically do very well, but only come out ever so often. Now no one like me can make any bit a difference in the end of it all, but someone in Japan needs to wake up and start to look how things are really looking. Lets just consider what would happened if a game much like Halo, Gear of War, or Call of Duty (I know its on the Wii) and has great online game play with easy friending options? Well there is. One, only one game like that (name escapes me at this time). Even the Game Cube, which I think doesn't get enough credit sometimes, had better variety. I probably would go back to my SNES before buying another Wii game (even if there is maybe a few of titles I still want). But in the end, much like how Gundam is only super popular in Japan, we probably won't get anything good out of Nintendo for a very long time. So in the mean time, everyone grab your xbox 360 or PS3 controllers and have some fun! I'm going to grab that Transformers: War for Cybertron soon and kick some ass!

    Posted: August 17, 2010 9:51 PM
  • CH_Gorog

    Is it just me or does the Feedback team really give SONY a lot of rope? I mean a LOT of rope?

    Posted: August 17, 2010 8:16 PM
  • smoe79

    Is it just me or does Morgan just seem so pretentious. We all know your a downer for all retro games or anything not flashy or not Blizzard oriented. I find myself saying over and over again saying "No one cares Morgan stfu!" Ever since Morgan has been in feedback, I find myself not liking it more and more. I used to love feedback bring me back my OG cast!

    Posted: August 17, 2010 1:03 PM
  • Tahk0


    Posted: August 17, 2010 1:00 PM
  • ColonelCampbell

    Great show guys.

    Posted: August 16, 2010 9:14 PM
  • Justa x Hustle

    Imagine if you will an RPG where YOU are the character. Forget pressing the analog forward to walk...screw pressing X to pick up that sword...erase the false pretenses of pressing the right trigger to fire that arrow...you do it with yourself you lazy gamer!

    It could be a few years before the technology is truly tapped into of course but don't you all foresee games using the Kinect system for much more than many gamers imagine possible as of right now. Wouldn't you all like an Oblivion 5 where you, yourself have to walk thousands of miles to get from town to town? Okay me neither, but the idea of sneaking behind a bandit and shanking him just makes all my dark inhibitions come to life.

    Posted: August 16, 2010 8:00 PM
  • marty7044

    wow guys, get with the program. "Did EA make Mad World?" really Morgan? The Wii title that EA made that was good but didn't sell well was Dead Space Extraction. How could no one in that room know that? What do you guys do all day?

    I like how Abbi talks about how you shouldn't bash a game you haven't played, then they proceed to bash the new GoldenEye because it's on the Wii. Little too much Wii hatred there, you're starting to sound like fanboys. Whatever happened to unbiased reporting?

    Posted: August 16, 2010 6:37 PM
  • JimMD102

    Wait. Wait. Did Abbie "Left 4 Dead fanatic" Heppie confuse Francis for Bill? Everyone into the shelter! The clouds are going to rain fire!

    Posted: August 16, 2010 11:48 AM
  • Jahbu

    Does Morgan like anything...she hates Megaman, she hates Mario, she hates Final Fantasy, she hates Kirby, she hates Zelda, and she hates Kingdom Hearts!

    Man it seems like she like nothing!

    Posted: August 16, 2010 10:12 AM
  • kilCanvas

    I love morgan's attitude in this episode. XD

    Posted: August 16, 2010 8:18 AM
  • ShadowSpecter

    Feedback should be available on the Zune marketplace as a podcast! Love these guys!

    Posted: August 15, 2010 6:26 PM
  • Tauntsauce

    On the idea of Kinect using voice commands for squad based shooters. SOCOM 3 actually had that back on the PS2. While it was a great idea in theory, it failed horribly in practice. The command options were extremely limited. It was basically "stay here" or "come here". An 80% of the time you had to repeat your command multiple times in order for it to actually recognize what you were attempting to say. It was generally more beneficial to go to the menu and manually input the commands. Now, Kinects tech is, I am sure, quantum leaps forward in tech and voice recognition, but there are still obvious AI limitations that would produce the same issue. It would be a frill/thrill selling point to say "voice command available with kinect" but it would still simpley tlaking to your TV and saying "stay here"/"come here".

    Posted: August 15, 2010 12:56 PM
  • rocketwolf

    You know what would be cool to do with Kinect? Customizable phrase, that way parents can set it so when their little ten year old starts using profanity the console shuts off.

    Posted: August 15, 2010 8:48 AM
  • drangel_jam

    "I hate Megaman." Morgan Webb
    And I love you, 'cause I don't like his guts either, and much less his entire universe, and know Capcom is diluting the SF brand yet again by stamping it with any possible IP.

    Posted: August 15, 2010 4:51 AM
  • BENonG4

    Am I really the first commenter? I mean, I hate those "First!" kids as much as the next guy, but how the hell has nobody watched this after a few days? I don't know...

    Posted: August 14, 2010 9:39 PM
  • theantigzus

    Dear abbie, actually all the downloaded games do work offline but it has to be on the console you downloaded it on because the DRM licenses are associated with the console it was downloaded on or if u have them on multiple systems you go on the support section of xbox.com and transfer your licenses to one system but you do have to download them all again on that system for it to take effect and if you send in ur system for repair they transfer the licenses for you but i believe you still have to download them again. Im not trying to sound like a smart ass i just hope this help you later on since it doesnt this time

    Posted: August 14, 2010 8:06 PM

    Ive never seen it before let alone on other platforms, not saying it hasn't been done but this is on a 40 wiimote with the exact principles the kinect is based on. This completely blows the new must have 3D tvs outta the water let alone all the other gear to make them work.

    Games would only be one player like you said but movies would be completely different as all viewers share the same point of view, ie... movies aren't free roam like games.

    Im sure if reserched properly some sort of work around could be had to make it work for two plus players during gaming.

    To me, this is huge! if you really think about what jonny lee did with a 40 dollar wiimote and is now part of the kinect team. Something big is brewing in the world of gaming and 3D gaming. like my first post read, maybe this why MS didn't have much to say about glasses style 3D gaming at E3. they have something like this up their sleeve and are not about to unveil it yet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

    Posted: August 14, 2010 6:07 PM
  • Dorkenmore

    I'm just going to throw this out there and I might get chomped on but I have to wonder: Is anyone else at the point that they can say "I really don't give a crap about the next shooter?" I like shooters in general, but after the the gaming industry has been saturated with so many Halo's, Call of Duty's, Gears of War's, I've just gotten tired of expecting the same thing out of my sixty dollar purchase.

    I realize that tweaks and changes are being made to all of these games as they release titles under the same name, but in the end of the day, after playing so much CoD Modern Warfare, I saw MW2 and thought, "huh.... kinda looks like shiny MW1....

    I bought Modern Warfare 2, I played it and it was fun, but for the same reasons that MW1 was fun, and I probably could have just kept playing the original. I see Black Ops, and the first thing that comes to mind is.... "huh.... looks like shiny Modern Warfare 2"

    I have played through all of the Halo games. I like the story of the first one, but then the game got "Activisionized" and the game threw good writing out the window and told us to focus on the multiplayer, and we did. It's fun, right? Well, you know that Halo: ODST game? Tell me the real differences in the game that warrant another expensive purchase, besides keeping up in the online world.

    I have never played any of the Gears games, so I can't really make an argument there, but seems like a lot of rehashing and re-releasing is going on there. I may be completely wrong, but at face value, thats what it appears to be.

    Where is the innovation? I got Starcraft 2 and it completely blew my mind and shattered my preconceptions of what RTS' could provide in a single player experience. The multiplayer is varied and dynamic enough that I actually want to come back! Mass Effect 2 is a shooter that I love because of beautiful writing, well thought out game-play and combat, and I give it credit for achieving that.

    Do not get me wrong, I like the CoD series, i like the Halo series, and I'm sure that Gears is a really fun game, but I want to propose something to all developers out there (excluding Blizzard. I think they have done a good job in gaming innovation, for the most part). Make something huge that is developed under a new IP. Make an AWESOME multiplayer RPG (Not talking about MMO's). Something that players would LOVE to come back to but doesn't need to include hand grenades,chainsaws, and capturable flags. How about this, make a first person Resident Evil-esque (not like 5, maybe not even 4) multiplayer Horror game that will scare the crap out of me and my friends. Make that the next new tactical shooter. How about add some RPG elements like inventories and character development that makes the game replayable and varied, and will make it stand out in the online world as well.

    I'm not saying that my ideas are great, but THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!! PLEASE. give me something new!

    I'm almost partially speaking to Abbie on this one as well. What is it about all of these shooters that keeps you coming back? Why is that so much fun to you, but it just seems like rehashing and "same-old" game-play to me?

    I respect all of those who love these shooters and in no way, do I mean to offend or put down anyone who plays them. I'll step away from my soapbox. If anyone else agrees please tell me, and if you do not agree with me, then also tell me and explain why you think so.

    Thanks, all!

    Posted: August 14, 2010 8:45 AM
  • agamerinside

    Man I love feedback...I think I keep watching these for the great discussions and Abbie.

    Posted: August 14, 2010 5:50 AM