Sessler's Soapbox: Video Games in the Supreme Court

Posted: May 4, 2010
Sessler's Soapbox: Video Games in the Supreme Court
Adam discusses the supreme court case where the justices will decide if video games are a protected form of free speech.

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  • bannor78

    Hey Ses believe it or not Conservatives game too. We only have two parties in this country so we weigh the good, against the bad, against the nonsense talk, then you cross your fingers and vote.

    Arizona is a troubling example of can happens during tough economic times when clever polititions manipulate the insecurities of large groups.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 9:59 AM
  • magic1264

    @ FuzzofPekinopolis

    "Should the illegal aliens (TRESPASSERS) be allowed to continue crossing our borders or be catered to? NO!!!!!"

    YES, yes they should. God damn it, people are people, and if their situation in whatever South American country wasn't so bad that they would risk life and limb to cross the border, they would have just stayed where they were. No, instead they cross treacherously steep hills/mountain and scorchingly hot wastelands, usually without the necessary supplies/equipment, just to get some crappy job at a corrupt/environmentally unsafe factory job; I am sure as hell going to do everything in my power to, at the very least, ensure that they don't have to do it all over again.

    Just because you were lucky enough to be born within the United States borders, gives you no more right to exist in this great country than "an illegal immigrant."

    @ Dynamo903

    Please get your head out from underground and take in the real world sometime. How do you exactly suspect someone of being an illegal immigrant without racial/ethnic profiling? The bad car they drive, the poor way they dress, acting nervous under duress from the police? Take your pick, all of that will apply to 95% of the freaking population. So unless "peace officers" suspect everyone they pull over as being an illegal immigrant, and take the necessary steps to ensure they aren't, I'm pretty sure you're going to have a significant % of these officials using racial/ethnic profiling in some way shape or form.

    If you don't think people of non-white decent won't be increasingly harassed for dwb (driving while brown) because of this new law, even in some small, insignificant amount, well, you have been sorely mis-informed as to how the real world works my friend.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 9:26 AM
  • OcelotFox

    For those interested in doing some Adam-recommended reading, here's links to the decisions that regard every aspect of the First Amendment.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/s upct/cases/topics/tog_first_am endment.html

    Posted: May 5, 2010 9:00 AM
  • FuzzofPekinopolis

    While I agree with parts of your statement regarding the ongoing legislation in Arizona, I feel that you have overlooked something. Do I want to lose my rights, freedoms? NO!!!! Should the illegal aliens (TRESPASSERS) be allowed to continue crossing our borders or be catered to? NO!!!!! Has our Federal Government dropped the ball because most politicians are afraid they will not be re-elected if they do something about this problem? YES!!!!
    Don't criticize Arizona for trying to do something that they obviously should not be responsible for in the first place. How about contacting your great Congress-woman the House Speaker from California and seeing if this is even on her radar?
    I believe that I am an independent voter. I try to choose the person that I feel will do the best job when it's time to cast my vote. 99% of all elected officials Democrat and Republican have let this go on for too long.
    Also if you do not believe this is a problem I have an example for you. I live in a small community with roughly 10,000 people in and around my town. A large company opened up a few years ago just outside the city limits. They are actually in the commercial waste disposal business. They are licensed and regulated by the Federal Government. Last year their was a raid on that company which found their to be more than a dozen illegal aliens employed by them. The feds have dropped the ball so low that even regulated and licensed facilities have started hiring illegals?
    Broken system needs a reboot and anti-virus software has to be installed so it doesn't happen again.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 8:26 AM
  • Scooterdrew

    I'm doing a paper for my English professor about how it's the parents job to watch what their kids play, not the states. Thank you Adam for doing this topic. This will go great with the paper, and I agree, that law in Arizona is a load of bull. Video games are a form of art, and should be protected by the 1st amendment. Just look at the Bioshock games, the idea and concept of that world is totally art. Do your jobs mom and dad!!! Watch what your kids play, and don't pass the responsiblity onto our already struggling government! I'm a first time poster on this website, big fan of the channel, and this topic finally made me make an account to comment on it. Thank you.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 8:11 AM
  • goodbiscuits

    No matter how much gamers want to deny it, video games do not = movies. It's not that big of a deal if sale to a minor becomes a crime. Why is underage drinking a problem? Isn't it Illegal to buy alcohol if your under 21? Kids will find a way to get what they want. They always have. If anything, it FORCES parents to become more involved. Saying that this going to lead all of our rights being taken away or something stupid like that is just a slippery slope.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 8:08 AM
  • killerwaffles93

    what is the law passed by Arizona nobody is telling me also alot of these problems are caused by the people crazy with religion

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:35 AM
  • Ashley_Si

    laws like that would be pointless, if some kid tried to buy the game in a store a was shot down, and just happen to have one of those parents that in no way would let them play M games, he'd either find a friend with the game, or buy it off line with one of his parents' credit card, which leads to whole other mess of problems. The main point is there is no way to censor the world for children so just inform them better, that's to you education board, or be better parents and raise your kids right.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:30 AM
  • Dynamo903

    @chahn: Where in this bill does it say that it specifically targets hispanics? Nowhere. Anyone of any skin color can be an illegal immigrant. You need to stop playing that race card because eventually it'll get to a point where it'll do you no good.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Illegal_immigration

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:27 AM
  • alsoprano

    nicelly said adam u always right about things n that new law n arizona is bull that is just wrong cant believe s....t like that is still going on n america as late as 2010

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:21 AM
  • b4k4

    I agree that that law in Arizona is complete bull, but I'm at the point where I'm sick of hearing about it, because everyone I know personally who's talking about it isn't mad at the law or the people who passed the law, they're made at anything and anyone that has any connection whatsoever to the State of Arizona itself, and that level of idiocy burns me out, real fast.

    Still, the logic "It's only a problem if you have something to hide" works great in the movies, but in reality it doesn't fly so well. I'm tired of hearing that excuse for crap like this and wiretapping and whatever else gets conceived of next to help track down whatever big "menace" society comes up with after this.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:16 AM
  • b4k4

    I agree that that law in Arizona is complete bull, but I'm at the point where I'm sick of hearing about it, because everyone I know personally who's talking about it isn't mad at the law or the people who passed the law, they're made at anything and anyone that has any connection whatsoever to the State of Arizona itself, and that level of idiocy burns me out, real fast.

    Still, the logic "It's only a problem if you have something to hide" works great in the movies, but in reality it doesn't fly so well. I'm tired of hearing that excuse for crap like this and wiretapping and whatever else gets conceived of next to help track down whatever big "menace" society comes up with after this.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:16 AM
  • Dynamo903

    Agree with the video game part, disagree with the AZ bill part. The majority of AZ voted for this bill. Who are you to deny them that? The numbers *do not lie*. These people are tired of being abused by illegal immigrants (see the countless drug and non drug related murders.)

    You libbies need to get off Arizona's nuts. Go point your dictatorus finger elsewhere.

    Also to critique your show adam: you talk waaay too fast and the displays behind you are very distracting.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 7:15 AM
  • chahn

    Adam is on point with this week's soapbox! The Bill of Rights is the foundation of all our freedoms as citizens of the US, and it is under attack on many fronts. I'm an Arizona native, and I'm ashamed of our new law and the politicians that passed it, and I can only hope that the ever increasing public outcry and pressure being applied both nationally and locally can get the law repealed... I guess we'll find out in the coming weeks... Reading some of the comments people have posted, though, worries me a little bit. Some people seem to think that only ILLEGAL aliens will be targeted by this law, therefore it's no threat to legal residents and citizens... WRONG!!! Thirty percent of the population of Arizona is of Hispanic descent, and every one of them can be targeted by the new law!!! They ARE American citizens, who can be stopped or pulled over and forced to provide proof of American citizenship based on THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AND HAIR!!! COME ON!!! This is America, dammit!! This shouldn't happen! Look people, we live in a scary time, with a car bomb in Time Square and an economy that 's in the toilet, and people and politicians want to feel and demonstrate more control and security over our country and our lives, but we have to be careful... It's so easy to overreact!!! IT"S A SLIPPERY SLOPE!!! There's been a slow but steady erosion of our civil liberties over the last decade, and we all need to take note. The new law doesn't just effect people who look Hispanic... It effects ALL OF US!! Good talk.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 6:58 AM
  • bravesfan_85532

    Adam I think you should go read the new law SB 1070 and then give your opinion on the law. As an Arizona I have read much of the law and talked about it with friends and we fill that there are measures in place to stop this law from violating peoples right. But unless you have read this law you are doing what people who don't play video games do all the time you are jugging it by how it is portrayed in the media and not by what you know to be true. So read the law and then let it be know what you think or your just another Roger Ebert. Other than that Love the show and your take on video games.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 6:57 AM
  • dsa0224x

    let me add something
    "OMG this kid brought a gun to school and shot a teacher, who's to blame: video games. "
    "OMG my grandfather died of lung cancer: who's to blame: cigarette companies"
    "OMG i cant pay my $10,000 credit card balance: who's to blame: credit card companies who give me a high credit line"
    "OMG i ran out of gas during a trip: who's to blame, the gas company not making enough stations"
    "OMG my kid is 50 pounds overweight: who's to blame: McDOnalds, Checkers, Arbys, Burger King"
    "OMG i forgot to do my term paper: WHo's to blame: World Of Warcraft"
    " OMG there are too many child molesters there: who's to blame: porn"

    do you see a pattern here, cause i do. its just a mystery to me why we put the blame on others instead ourselves... goes well with this topic of videogames vs. amendment rights...

    Posted: May 5, 2010 5:03 AM
  • dracoraptor

    I am tired of people are saying this is a BS law just because the cops "may" be prejudice or that the law "may" be read wrong. To prove my point there is one law that has been misused for the past 53 years. the 1937 Marihuana Tax Act. Marihuana has never been illegal ever in the United States, however it is illegal to possess it without the correct stamp proving that you paid your taxes on it. Problem finding the stamp, of course they no longer produce the stamps that make it legal to possess because they can not pass a law to make it illegal.

    If peoples only argument is that this law might cause prejudice than your statements have no basis on law.Law is blind meaning it is not meant to determine whether the people carrying out the law are right and just. The only illegal thing that this law has done is that it is illegal for states to regulate immigration.

    As for Darkstorn, I have pity on you are I can not believe that you are an American.How could you talk about "I think this is where the Republicans get all their wacky legislation (flag burning, etc.)." Saying that a flag burning law is a bad Idea when right now the United States is under attack by terrorist and you have young men and women in the military dieing for you to technically bash them and every other person who disagrees with you is frankly disgusting.

    Also, What stasis do you have to say the Republicans have wacky ideas when the democrats just passed the health care bill which is also illegal as the government does not have the right to force you to acquire any privately sold items. As such they have no right to fine you for not having insures any more than they have the right to fine you for not having a payed World of Warcraft account. Then they also pass then laws that allows the richest men in the world to continue with their business even though they have practiced several illegal practices them-self that have lead to their need for bankruptcy. You have no right to single out the republican's for wrong bills when the democrats have also passed many more absurd laws. However the republicans are not angles either.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 4:52 AM
  • dsa0224x

    restriction video games for minors, is something that parents should do, not the lame ESRB rating, not gamestop, gamepro, EB games. i have played every type of video game since the early 80's, even the most violent games like DOOM, resident evil, etc, and i have never got in trouble with the law. and i have never ever harmed a life. if i do so, than that is contrary to what i do as an eye doctor. i have large amounts of patients, with very little time for stuff like this. but i will say this, turn on the TV and there is violence in almost every channel: even the news. as a eye doctor and a video game fan and most importantly a human being: you are responsible for your own actions in life. and if you harm someone because "Grand theft auto told me its ok to shoot people in the streets"... do yourself a favor and get professional help. dont throw the scapegoat on the rest the legit gamers out there.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 4:44 AM
  • Zx2654

    I just need to say one thing, thank you Adam. I am a child myself and hearing one adult say that we should be protected by the 1st ammendment just is nice. My parents don't let me get M rated games and I accept that. I am a Canadian and I know the ripple effects that would happen from this if they passed it affecting your rights not mine. and to all the people against what Adam I'd like you to be refered to one of his old soapbox's where he was talking about NPR and GTA 4. Thank you and great soapbox.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 4:28 AM
  • Chronocore

    I feel you are wrong about the Arizona Law. As a few others here have stated, it doesn't seem like you have actually read any part of it. I have read over the parts of it that seem to be the most contested and I have to say that it really isn't as bad as people are trying to make it sound. I live in northern Arizona and I have made a point to talk to as many people about this as possible at work and at college and so far I've yet to encounter anyone who is against it (some leery, but none against). I realize that popular opinion doesn't make something right, but I really think you should reconsider your statement and do some reading, as you suggested.

    Posted: May 5, 2010 4:23 AM