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Sessler's Soapbox: Will Nintendo Do 3D the Right Way?

Posted: April 6, 2010
Sessler's Soapbox: Will Nintendo Do 3D the Right Way?
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/45156/sesslers-soapbox-will-nintendo-do-3d-the-right-way/
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  • Justindbz

    I still don't believe 3D will add anything to my gaming experience... we're not the cutscene junkies we were back in 97-99.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 12:53 PM
    Justindbz
  • killerwaffles93

    I always await with anticipation for adams soapbox great one adam you are an insperation to gamers and idealists with your opinions those who hate you can go to hell.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 8:48 AM
    killerwaffles93
  • killerwaffles93

    also 3d will hopefully will fade away but I dont want to jinx it people thought video games wouldnt stick but look at it now its bigger than hollywood hollywood dammit even so 3d will most likely die down when they try to force it into everyday life but who knows nintendo has a nack at trying things and making them different and better.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 8:46 AM
    killerwaffles93
  • Rhawk187

    I am an independent game and scientific visualization designer and my approach to 3D has pretty much been that what you create should be 3D agnostic.

    You don't walk around wearing an eye patch, screaming about how much better experiencing the world in 2D is, but people complain about their 3D movies and games. So there must some sort of difference we just aren't solving yet. That being said, maybe Apple can market an "iPatch" and that will be the new trend.

    In all seriousness though, in the engine my partner and I develop, any game or scientific visualization you are using has a little check box for stereoscopic viewing. Check it, and put on your glasses and get you 3D. Uncheck it, and it's back to 2D.

    Navigating LIDAR of the surrounding area feels a lot cooler in 3D than 2D. Seeing the engine exhaust come of your spaceship at you feels a lot cooler in 3D. I've yet to find anything that feels cooler in 2D than 3D in our games (except that overlays appear "behind" objects, but we are working on that).

    Other than having to wear glasses, I haven't heard many people really hammer down what is so different about the depth of 3D and the depth of real life that makes 3D so "horrible." If you can do that, we can try to fix it.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 8:22 AM
  • reddvl2008

    I have to honestly say that i don't care for 3D with the glasses but i have to honestly say that i nintendo does the 3DS correctly then i'll give i try but even if its not up to par it'll give sony, toshiba, and all the other TV mafactuers around the world something to build on and eventually someone will get it right

    Posted: April 7, 2010 8:08 AM
    reddvl2008
  • Aradon

    Good to have you back Adam! I am also a 3D hater. I find 3D very distracting. Long story short, I agree with everything you say about 3D gaming.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 6:57 AM
    Aradon
  • LTman86

    I agree that games in general don't need 3D, but there are certain genre's that could benefit from 3D. Flying simulators, racing games, maybe FPS, just to name a few that comes to mind. Where depth perception can definitely benefit when playing the game. Games where I have to evaluate distances to perform better. I'm not saying it's a must for the games, but 3D can enhance gameplay. Like all new technology, it's up to developers and gamers to realize that potential it can unlock and how to utilize it to benefit others.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 6:50 AM
    LTman86
  • Aristofiles

    i dont think it will give any gameplay a edge but i do think that it will improbe the graphical in games to come one the tech has settled in. For now we will probably be forcefeed with crapy games who think 3d is enough but those games will vanish as soon as the big studios have had time to figure the tecj out and start thier own 3d productions

    Posted: April 7, 2010 5:52 AM
    Aristofiles
  • MrUnstable

    i just dont want to ware the damn glasses or buy a new tv

    Posted: April 7, 2010 3:22 AM
    MrUnstable
  • mastered

    the only thing i truly hate about 3D is the glasses but having said that i don't see what could possibly be done to make 3D enhance any game out there not even bad one's. i might be wrong but i think it would just be like retraining your eye to understand the new way to look at depth in a video game. they've done that without 3D already and they can still do it.

    Posted: April 7, 2010 3:06 AM
    mastered
  • Fex_Anderson

    I hated Avatar. I hate 3D. It's just a damn ploy to make money for people who don't need any more GOD-DAMN MONEY!!!

    Posted: April 7, 2010 12:18 AM
    Fex_Anderson
  • NDLSCW

    As for the Nintendo 3DS itself it's rumored to use a Sharp or Hitachi autostereoscopic display. Wikipedia has some good links on the subject of the potential 3DS screens such as:

    http://www.engadget.com/2010 /04/02/nintendo-3ds-to-feature -3-4-inch-sharp-parallax-barri er-display/

    http://sharp-world.com/corpo rate/news/100402.html

    http://en.akihabaranews.com/ 42016/hands-on/hands-on-sharp- new-mobile-2d3d-lcd-is-mind-bl owing?utm_source=feedburner&am p;utm_medium=feed&utm_camp aign=Feed%3A+Akihabaranews_en+ %28AKIBA+EN%29

    http://www.asahi.com/english /TKY201003240434.html

    http://masterimage3d.com/pro ducts/3d-lcd

    This link provides some good information about the cost of such screens:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-31 021_3-20001013-260.html

    Posted: April 7, 2010 12:09 AM
    NDLSCW
  • ahasz150

    Adam nail it gimick gimick gimick just like the wii, ps3 move, and what ever they call the xbox one natal or some thing like that who care about it all don't mess with what works NO CRAPPY 3D GAMES and nintendo how about a new console that can perform with the ps3 and xbox one that 3rd party games wont suck a$$ o and here is some thing to think about how about 3D porn movie yikes!!!

    Posted: April 6, 2010 11:50 PM
    ahasz150
  • NDLSCW

    I myself look forward to 3D games. I don't think more visual depth is a bad thing and think that keeping track of my position in a game like a platformer or racing game would be easier and feel more natural in 3D. In addition to depth I think many game developers will at least try to do new and interesting things with the visuals in their games; an experiment that I would love to take part in. I admit that at first there may be gimmicky games but I think that games and game series that rely heavily on atmosphere and visuals; games like Silent Hill, Bioshock, Half Life, Metroid, Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and No More Heroes can gain something from 3D. I expect not just gimmicks from 3D games but greater use of atmosphere and visuals to tell a stroy and more games like killer 7 or Rez, which is nothing to be scoffed at.

    Posted: April 6, 2010 10:57 PM
    NDLSCW
  • Narocue

    WTF ... Adam, I usually agree with you, but not this time. Clash of the Titans was a horrible example of 3D, as it is the worst Real D 3d movie out to date. Watch "How to Train Your Dragon" and tell me that a 3D game, made to that quality would not enhance the gameplay experience. There was a scene, when he first flies his dragon in the movie, and they do a nose dive toward the ocean ... I actually got the feeling in my stomach that I was falling, and couldnt breathe until he caught himself. When you can become so emersed in a piece of entertainment, such as a movie, or video game where your body instinctively reacts to what is being presented to you on screen, that is an amazing feeling and I am all for it.

    Posted: April 6, 2010 9:50 PM
    Narocue
  • logdog200x

    I dont understand what the fuss is about. I liked avatar in 3D. I dont think 3D would work great for every movie or game but it has its place. This arguement reminds me of how Charlie Chaplin hated the idea of talking in movies when the technology debuted and basically called it a gimmick and refused to use it. It seems everytime there is an advancement in the entertainment industry(be it talking, color, stereo, surround sound, HD, etc...) there will always be people who hate the notion of changing what they are familiar with and already love. One game i can think of off the top of my head that would work great with 3D is Alan Wake. I would play that. The end.

    Posted: April 6, 2010 9:42 PM
    logdog200x
  • RockRockRobot999

    I remember watching Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs on a 3D TV at the Sony store. I must admit, the movie looked stunning. After watching, Blu-Ray looked like crap.

    Posted: April 6, 2010 9:38 PM
    RockRockRobot999
  • cheezitmonster

    the only bad thing about Sessler's Soapbox is that by the time the real discussion has started its already half way into the video. Not to be a dick, but I was actually looking forward to a nice 5 minute long conversation about the new DS successor, something that I am very excited about and WILL buy for my self. I am quoting most english teachers when I say this; Stay on topic.

    Posted: April 6, 2010 9:35 PM
    cheezitmonster
  • happymeowmeow

    Glad yr healthy again Adam
    A few points:
    It's silly to think that advances in technology aren't important to videogames (and movies for that matter). Traditionally the evolution of videogames is directly connected to that of computing technology.
    HOWEVER I don't consider what is currently called "3D" new technology at all, simply a gimmick made from old ideas. I have yet to see or hear about anything involving "3D" that brings anything new to the table.
    That being said, you can't say the movie industry hasn't always thrived on gimmicks. Horror movie makers used to put electric buzzers in seats. I doubt anything besides mindless popcorn flicks will have 3d wedged into them, so whats the harm?
    One thing that does interest me...that demo of the multiple layered DS game... looked very cool, I wonder if that is what the 3DS is really going to be?

    Posted: April 6, 2010 9:29 PM
    happymeowmeow
  • AngelsandDemons

    yawn

    Posted: April 6, 2010 9:14 PM
    AngelsandDemons
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