Feedback -- DICE 2010 Reactions And The Heavy Rain Debate

Posted: February 24, 2010
Feedback -- DICE 2010 Reactions And The Heavy Rain Debate
Team Feedback returns with impressions from DICE 2010, and launch into a heavy discussion regarding Sony's "is it a game?" Heavy Rain.

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  • Flight_Eagle

    When you say "Younger gamers" i think these 12 year olds and such, how you matchmake some Halo or L4D2 and you get a high pitched whatever whining in your ear. I don't mean to offend and younger people here, but that is what happens to me online.

    I am only 17, but I'd like to think i had a good upbringing in terms of games. At 2 years old i was introduced to A Link To The Past and later some Megaman. I play games because i want to play them, but i am also aware of the fact that if i'm not playing them, there are a lot less things to do... hrmm... maybe not a lot. Well, it might not be boredom so much as it is me not wanting to do anything else.

    I broke out my N64 the other day. Played some Megaman. I wanna find my Beetle Adventure Racing, too.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 9:49 PM
  • baraka007

    Great as always but why is it that G4 will play terrible shows that have nothing to do with gaming like cops all day but wont make time for shows like this?

    Posted: February 25, 2010 9:24 PM
  • Raisinbman

    Sadly, they did, in fact, cut off Saturday Morning Cartoons. If you go to TV Tropes.com under network decay, you'll learn more. Short summary though:

    There was a requirement for networks to show cartoons in the morning. Due to these saturday morning slots being heavily contested by networks that show cartoons/"kid" programming 24/7(Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, etc.) They are now replaced by infomercials.

    Good news: Series like Spectacular Spiderman are actually surviving and thriving under cable channels(Spidey is in Disney right now). There also seems to be a saturday morning format on the above mentioned 24/7 channels.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 9:17 PM
  • sewageking

    I really like the question of how your first experiences with video games can influence your tastes as you grow up. My first game was Pokemon on the Gameboy, and I've always gravitated more towards RPG's and adventure games. There are so many factors that can influence one's taste in games, and the first experience is obviously a very important one. It establishes standards for what a person expects in a game, and it can shape their idea of what a game is. Because my first game was an RPG, I assumed that having to manage things like stats and items would be in all games. I also thought that most games had turn-based battles. Conversely, someone who had Super Mario Bros as their first game would probably expect other games to be very action-oriented.

    Obviously, as one grows up and learns about other kinds of games, their perception of what a video game is will change. But I think that those first experiences leave a very permanent mark, and that people will always gravitate towards gameplay styles that are at least somewhat similar to that of their first game.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 8:00 PM
  • highdive_lowlife

    funny that heavy rain keeps getting played down, even by the folks that like it as a "movie thats interactable"...

    because i played the demo and in that 10 mins i have done more reactionary button presses, movements and thinking, than any other game thats been released in the last 10 years.

    heavy rain IS A GAME!!! period. and based on what i played of the demo, its a great game that i would like to buy.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 7:48 PM
  • JimMD102

    Give me back my Abbie!

    I remember when WoW was new. "Oh it's exploring the world in Warcraft games, but it's RPG based and you just keep doing stuff in the world. It's not an RTS. Cool, but very weird. Huh. Oh! I have to keep paying. Fudge that."

    Also, great HR discussion. I really want to buy it now, even though I'm trying to save that $60 for FFXIII. Damn you! :)

    Posted: February 25, 2010 6:07 PM
  • tturner1

    Im 13 and i play games and do understand and enjoy them on i think the same level as a older individual dose, i enjoyed heavy rain and similar titles mostly due to there mature and wonderful story. Im not trying to get into an argument with the G4 staff, i think you guys are awesome! And for the most part your assesment of children in this case is mostly correct, but i do think its unfair to assume that all children are like that. My father has played video games his whole life and he is nearly 40, and he plays games just to "kill stuff" i really hate people like that, who just play games because its "fun and cool!" i think games can convey an intrersting, cinematic and engaging plot. Thank you G4 for another great episode! :) (also lets not get into a disscussion about how i should not be playing mature games, please?)

    Posted: February 25, 2010 4:00 PM
  • SavageHunter

    Man, I want to know how to make these guys more money so they can do more things. But I'm not watching Cops or Cheaters. XP Thats stuff is lame! BUt uhh, what can the community do specifically to help G4 constantly make money? Also, great Feedback! I'm still kind of skeptical of Heavy Rain, my first thoughts when I saw it were "Its just 'QTE's THE GAME'" But I looked a little more into it and it looks pretty interesting. I'm still kind of wary, but I'm going to have to pick it up at one point.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 3:19 PM
  • csddcc1johan

    guys if you could put this on maybe a once a week as a t.v show on G4 that would be great. There are so little videogame shows on G4 as it is but this would definatly be something I would watch once a week or however many new episodes would come on. I strongly reccomend it because alot of people would watch it.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 3:03 PM
  • bluepheonixia

    I think the comment about the generational gap in video games is very true. I come from this weird in between time period where I grew up playing at the earliest playing SNES and then moving on to a PS1 and PS2 for most of my early childhood years. I sort of experienced the old and the new and don't get a certain classification as a new or old gamer. I find that I can appreciate games much more than most people my age, but I don't appreciate them in the same way as the people who grew up playing arcade type games.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 2:34 PM
  • Metalstorm98

    If you guys like buffalo chicken you should come to buffalo and get some real buffalo chicken... and make a speech or something so i can come meet you

    Posted: February 25, 2010 2:30 PM
  • RbEeAtDwLeIeNnE

    I don't know if you've seen this or not

    But that scene with Scott Shelby at the thrift store is not the "first interactive split screen" experience in the game. When you are in the room with Lauren Winters, if you press her the right way, it goes into a split screen where you can move around the room, keep an eye on Lauren's expressions, etc. I know only because I haven't gotten to that part yet, but I've gotten to the Lauren Winters episode

    Posted: February 25, 2010 2:14 PM
  • katracho941

    you know the question of the the week is pretty vague.
    who falls under "Kids"? It seems to me that video games are still categorized as something elementary school students play.
    Teenagers like me who are 15-17 are a great part of the video game consumers, so where do we fall under?
    Obviously we aren't kids but we aren't "Old Gamers" either
    When you talk about kids I don't get what you guys are talking about

    Posted: February 25, 2010 2:07 PM
  • CptToushiro

    "JASON!" "Buffalo Chicken!"

    I love Feedback for the informative discussions and great humor that makes me laugh sometimes. Keep it up guys.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 2:06 PM
  • leventhall

    I know I want to play Heavy Rain, but I don't know if i should drop the $60 for it, or just rent it.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 1:50 PM

    can you guys tell me if it's better than mass effect 2? i highly doubrt it, and anyone who calls me a fanboy is a hippocrite and also wrong

    Posted: February 25, 2010 1:42 PM
  • xgavin09

    Just wanted to thank the feedback crew for recommending "The Fountainhead" last week. I picked it up and think it's awesome so far.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 12:13 PM
  • MartinJohnstone

    Well i don't own a PS3 but Heavy Rain is a big factor on my desire to own one.

    i am an old gamer at 35 and have fond memories of playing on a spectrum, then through a variety of systems. Perhaps his oldness has me at odds with the online play on demand of games.

    The ephemeral nature of a service to play online would have the similar issues as to the latest drm for Assassins Creed II on the pc with the added question of how long would a developer run servers for these games.

    Posted: February 25, 2010 12:11 PM
  • MaelStrom_

    i heard that the heavy rain voice-overs are coming out in different languages: dutch, french, german etc they hired some well known actors to do the voice-overs in dutch e.g. carice van houten, they probably spend alot on voice-overs for this game

    Posted: February 25, 2010 10:47 AM
  • bolander9

    Maybe instead of "quick-time events" we could use the term "response gaming" or something like that. I think this better describes how players are interacting with the action on the screen instead of just having success or failure in a quick-time challenge. What do you guys think?

    Posted: February 25, 2010 10:20 AM