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DICE 2010: "Instant Gratification" Presentation

Posted: February 18, 2010
DICE 2010: "Instant Gratification" Presentation
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Founder and CEO of OnLive, Inc. discusses the future of instant gratification in the gaming industry at DICE 2010.

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  • SirWilliam

    So this guy is talking about taking the hardware part out of gaming. I might be wrong about this but wouldn't that take out well Microsoft,Sony,Nintendo,Nvidia ,ATI,evga,asus,Gskill,XFX,MSI, zotac and all the other gaming hardware makers and distributors? What about GameStop? I love going to GameStop to buy a game and interact with other gamers in person. Also I have a hard time believeing that it will run games as nice as my bad ass gaming PC. What about things like Physx, or mod support? Another thing the price is going to be $14.99 a month......um i've had my xbox 360 for I guess about four years now paid $400 for it when it first came out and have paid $50 a year for XBL (Xbox Live) that equals $600. On the other hand you can pay $14.99 a month for four years equaling $719.52....Yea and I hope a bunch of people don't buy games then it goes under and you all loss your money spent.

    Posted: April 3, 2010 6:20 AM
    SirWilliam
  • Frankotaco

    So he wants to change the in his mind "defective" proprietary hardware method, out for a proprietary digital stream method. I think this idea of digital only to take over physical will not work. for any medium. What Film and Video Game distribution needs to do is merge physical media and its conveniences WITH digital distribution and its conveniences. taking out the negatives of each. Thats the future.

    Posted: March 9, 2010 1:16 PM
    Frankotaco
  • Hartliner

    @Star Wars Enigma point don't forget the start up cost. I.E. buying the console or latest and greatest computer rigs to play the games of the future. $600 dollars spread out over the ps3 advertised lifespan of 10 years is $60 plus add you money you spend on games If it truly does upgrade every 6 months then you got every game in the planet to play(potentially). I can already see Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft having an answer for this perceived threat plus I doubt onlive will have 1st party games. It'll be interesting

    Posted: March 3, 2010 11:26 AM
    Hartliner
  • IamtheBat

    I really dislike so much about this. During the video I actually thought "OMG, this is seriously neato" until I propped it up on the HD TV and really looked at it. The games looked bad, like early last gen bad. The layers were flat, and it seemed like the games were dissolved, really dissolved. I played that same map of Unreal on my old PC, and it looked just plain bad on OnLive. Also the Lag they encountered was heavy, I understand it was a beta, but still for it to lag like that.

    Im totally open to the idea of this, but it doesnt mean someone should do it. I love Netflix, I have a solid 4 Mbps connection and even at that, Netflix isnt as good as DVDs, and its not a new service.

    I think that this whole effort was a misguided attempt by non-gamer investors to make money. The fact that games are not only becoming longer, but more story centric disproves his ideology that gamers have short attention spans and want episodic games. I hope in the future, people will actually listen to the gaming consumer, not just what somebody on the internet does.

    Posted: February 22, 2010 12:05 AM
    IamtheBat
  • xdr8d

    yup... we want it now. BUT how many publishers are going to make this available for us to play on onlive. also the PRICE point is always gonna be set by the publisher. not game stop. or walmart. so no used games ever. and the other thing there... the ALWAYS BEING on the INTERNET to play. K i know there is greatest hits on live for $20 and know that if publishers will want to put there game on this but, we are gonna be losing in the long run with lag.

    Posted: February 21, 2010 8:27 PM
    xdr8d
  • Reign90

    So...it's basically XBL but you can play the game online or watch other people do it? I bet it has a high membership fee for all those 3-D, loading features. And I'm not sold on the idea of playing on bandwidth, it sounds like that Huges Net stuff, the whole "satellite internet provider", which is just awful, I got satellite TV and it can be a pain.

    As for piracy, they'll pirate anything, even if this became successful. People pirate not because it's "immediate", but because they can't/don't want to pay for the media.

    Posted: February 21, 2010 2:33 PM
    Reign90
  • Reign90

    Well...what the hell happened to the video? I wanted to see that...

    Posted: February 21, 2010 1:57 PM
    Reign90
  • sinner_mass

    definitley the best system for gaming ( or anything else for that matter). Auto updating means not having to pay for new hardware which means more money for games!

    Posted: February 20, 2010 9:42 AM
    sinner_mass
  • gameover404

    can't wait to see this in action this tecnology is amazing

    Posted: February 19, 2010 5:43 PM
    gameover404
  • gameover404

    this is so amazing can't wait unti it comes out. coz i have waiting myself

    Posted: February 19, 2010 5:41 PM
    gameover404
  • christof_

    Watch the speaker's face gradually grow red through the whole presentation =)

    Posted: February 19, 2010 4:09 PM
    christof_
  • mawfu

    This can definitely revolutionize the PC market. Very exciting and slick looking stuff.

    Posted: February 19, 2010 1:11 PM
    mawfu
  • elijahblake

    so has there been any info on what the actual price plan will be? I think if this does take off, you're still going to have millions of gamers that don't have the broadband connection needed... So there's always (well for several more years anyway) going to be a demand for offline gamers..

    I do see potential in this though. But i have a feeling when all is said and done it's going to be expensive and not save us any money.

    As long as xbox and ps3 keep integrating more social services then we basically already have all this.. And as far as him acting like the ps3 and xbox are outdated I don't agree.. I mean there's still more room to tap both especially when we only have 1080 display tv's.

    Posted: February 19, 2010 12:10 PM
    elijahblake
  • Lucifer6972

    I think people can see that work out or best fit their needs. I could see that but luckily for me, I am an awful patient person, especially when it comes to tech or high-tech. Honestly? I could care less about that crap, though is cool and all my friends pretty much got the hottest things around but na'h, not me, I just like to use other people's for that matter but in my self-interest? I'll be lying if I said I don't like one or don't plan to get one, I'll be lying to you but that high-tech stuff is just too much.

    I guess the better way to say is the fact that i don't care about the less than 15% of the population who is associated with items like these, let alone more of the hardware and sales is more universal and worlwide than just in our country so I can see this work or give it a try.

    Posted: February 19, 2010 10:07 AM
    Lucifer6972
  • LTman86

    I really don't get why people hope it bombs. Think of the technical advancements this platform can provide to the world. The compression of data to provide lagless interaction between the user and the server can massively increase the amount of data transmitted. Not only could this be used for games, the speed increase alone should allow other mediums to see benefits.

    But back to the console as a gaming platform, I don't see any real reason for hate. This is exactly what people have been hoping for. Can't play Mass Effect 2 because you own a 360? Or God of War III because you had to spend the money on rent? Maybe money was tight and you could only afford a netbook so you can work more efficiently for classes. These are all good reasons for something like OnLive to provide high quality gaming on cheaper platforms. Especially with their algorithm that will provide the best connection possible with what you have.

    Although I am worried about the cross platform playing. Specifically people playing on their phones. If they were playing a shooter, wouldn't that make them handicapped on controls? If they connect a controller to it, that should make it easier, but who would carry around a controller in the off chance they'll get bored enough to whip it out and play? Unless they design a slim and portable controller...

    Posted: February 19, 2010 10:04 AM
    LTman86
  • doctheory

    It amazes me how many comments are critical of this tech & are hoping it "bombs"
    Get a grip! It's a new way of gaming, and you shouldn't immediately shoot down anything until you give it a chance.
    If it falls short of its claims, & stinks, oh well, at least they tried something different. But if it does even slightly live up to it, at the very least there's an alternate way to game.
    The only people who should be "hoping it bombs" are the console manufacturers... Gamers should at the very least be intrigued if not excited.

    Posted: February 19, 2010 9:52 AM
    doctheory
  • REV EFFECT

    as a gamer i have been very interested in this since i first heard about it a few years ago but i would be lying if i said that there wasnt a small part of me that doesnt want this to catch on too well. some one like me who has a crap computer would love to have somethng like this so they can play the computer games they cant play all because they havent updated there computer yet or whatever but since i practicly grew up playing video games on consoles there is a part of me that doesnt want to see this eliminate console gaming for good. i am not a fanboy of any particular console because i like them all the same and i dont think any console is better than the other because every single one of them has their own problems that they cant brag about.

    for now im just going to take a wait and see approach for this and i cant wait for it to come out. i already signed up for the beta so i can see what its like for myself.

    i also like the social network that they have going on with this and i wish they would add something like this to the playstation network or xbox live. i think its cool how you can see a live feed of what one of your friends are doing in a game and if they coupled that with something like the party chat feature from xbox live and that would make it even more awsome. i can just see myself sitting in my room watching one of my friends play games like crackdown or fallout 3 just to see what crazy things they do in the game or you could use that to help show a friend how to do or get something in a game instead of having to talk it out to them when you know they are going to forget the last couple of things you said.

    Posted: February 19, 2010 9:40 AM
    REV+EFFECT
  • unfungames

    I cant wait to see this...because it's going to BOMB. Its just absurd. There's no internet connection on the planet that would make these games playable.

    A good UDP broadband ping for a sever located within 50 miles of your house is about 30ms. That's one way. So if you press a button to shoot...that's 30ms it takes to get to the server to actually shoot your gun. Then you have to stream the video back to see the result, which is at least another 30ms, but then you have to factor in how long it takes to download the frames of video and the audio that will be coming in

    not to mention most PC games run at frame rates above 30 FPS. theres no way theyll offer thanything above that, so all PC performace will be reduced for this service. You'll get 30 FPS max, and more than likely it will be lower to handle bandwith.

    And you wont get crystal clear 1920x1080 HD video, either. you're most likely going to see JPEG-esque compression on the video as it comes across.

    People who think this is actually going to be what they say it is need to get their heads out of the clouds. It's going to be laggy and ugly....and it's going to BOMB.

    Posted: February 19, 2010 2:53 AM
    unfungames
  • DEAThHEART

    I'll get onto the "One-Live" train if the games quality and graphics are the same as PS3/360 games, and if that little box is cheap enough for me to buy it. Of course, if there is no monthly subscription fee and pay only a low flat price for each games, that would be even better... lol. But all that has already been said...

    Posted: February 19, 2010 2:38 AM
  • Anonymousnow

    This Piracy "epidemic" myth is really getting annoying. There will never be an accurate statistical data that proves that piracy is an epidemic. First of all many games, movies, music, and media in general still pull a huge amount of revenue. Just look at Modern Warfare 2 and Avatar. I don't care who you are the way we sell today still works. You can not say o because of piracy we "think" we lost this amount when in fact you never had that amount to begin with. Truth is MANY OF US still go out and BUY, so just because a few pirates here and there get something for "free" doesn't mean it's an epidemic. All this talk of piracy this and that is just a way for big business and big gov to rob people for huge amounts of cash, and to take away your right to own something when you buy it. Look at apple if you want proof of you not really owning any of their products same goes with xbox 360 user license agreement. They are permanent rentals the only thing you own is what it's made out of which means they rip you off to do what ever they want with the product and charge whatever they want. If digital was truly a good thing then these polyandries wouldn't be trying to smash the smaller companies when they make better and cheaper products. Long story short all this "piracy epidemic" myth is just a means to manipulate the consumers so they can charge whatever they want as the smash better alternatives. I rather support a smaller company that's not money hungry (in other words isn't trying to gouge consumer for cash) and as a results makes better products that many of us will pay for. The many buyers out weigh the few pirates. We know people rob from stores, but it's not an epidemic because many of us don't do it. (Rant off)

    Posted: February 19, 2010 2:10 AM
    Anonymousnow
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