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DICE 2010: "Design Outside the Box" Presentation

Posted: February 18, 2010
DICE 2010: "Design Outside the Box" Presentation
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Carnegie Mellon University Professor, Jesse Schell, dives into a world of game development which will emerge from the popular "Facebook Games" era.

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  • taylor92yl

    This 'minority report' utopia makes me feel slightly suicidal

    Posted: June 8, 2012 6:57 AM
    taylor92yl
  • proud2b4family

    The scenarios he describes at the end make me think of a good sequel to "Idiocracy".

    The self-sufficiency angle is startling.

    But the government offering points for your compliance with their favored behaviors is downright dangerous, my friends. Do NOT let them do this to you. Modern-day Star of David, anyone?

    Posted: May 14, 2012 9:28 AM
    proud2b4family
  • FlameDuck

    "This guy" is Jessie Schell. "This guy" runs, the biggest game studio in Pittsburg, with more than 60 full time employees, he conducts research at one of the 25 top universities in the US, and practically wrote the bible on game design ("The Art of Game Design: A book of lenses")..

    So yeah, maybe you're smarter than he is, and when they invite you to speak at the Design, Innovate, Communicate, Entertain Summit, maybe you can put forth your own hypothesis, that some wanker on the internet can call crap or bull.

    Show me the data.

    Posted: February 20, 2012 11:24 PM
  • ZenithSal

    The way he described how these "terrifying" facebook games made "unexpected" millions and billions sounded like he's actually suffering because he missed all of it.. you could almost say he feels like these millions are taken from him, if he's faking it he's doing a pretty good job at it.
    Either way, the whole idea of using already questionable gameplay mechanics in games like FarmVille to "diverge" into the real world for commercial gain, is just an evil plot to make "unexpected" millions/billions, one that I hope will never come to pass during my lifetime.

    Posted: January 26, 2012 10:19 AM
  • Kratier

    this crap makes such terrible jumps in logic, he isn't about telling what is coming next, he's just parroting what happened in the recent future and claiming it will continue to grow exactly the same for the next 30-40 years, which we all know it won't.

    business people only see the world 1 year in advance , they see what makes money NOW and they dont care about the future, the guy speaking at this presentation is one of those type of people. They think facebook is going to be around forever, because it is making all the profit right now. They dont understand patterns or make predictions on the next major move, they just parrot what suceeded recently and pretend its the wave of the future.

    Posted: March 31, 2011 8:09 PM
    Kratier
  • LordThanatos

    Bricks were shat. Seriously, this guy is a genius.

    Posted: February 13, 2011 4:13 AM
  • SEOGoddess

    Check out Jesse's talk at the Emerging Media Conference in Jan 2011 - http://www.slideshare.net/SEOG oddess/jesse-schell-the-pleasu re-revolution It'll blow your mind.

    Posted: February 1, 2011 7:49 PM
  • THI

    horrifying totally

    Posted: January 7, 2011 7:05 PM
    THI
  • THI

    my computer is a convergence of technology.

    Posted: January 7, 2011 5:33 PM
    THI
  • losangeles117

    Best Video EVER!!!

    Posted: December 7, 2010 12:04 AM
    losangeles117
  • Javaasshole

    Is there anybody know how to download this file?
    please
    longing...

    Posted: September 8, 2010 4:34 AM
    Javaasshole
  • cprobosteuribe

    Terrifying ...

    Makes me feel in an Orwels novel ...

    I dont want to have my life controlled ...

    Posted: July 28, 2010 12:35 AM
  • leobard

    Jesse, an excellent speech! Good data to back it up, pragmatic steps to go there, excellent vision.
    I will go and do something in this direction.

    Posted: June 28, 2010 12:39 PM
  • deafwing

    all of this is truth

    Posted: June 26, 2010 3:17 PM
    deafwing
  • jingweit

    advantages are aplenty, as Schell mentioned. but questions that invaded my mind include:
    how much Free Will will we have? how much Personal Space?
    can we assume all advertisers will be Ethical? how can the Law censor?
    what sort of Social Pressure will result from a universal Bonus system?
    should we give that much power of influence to Companies and the Government?

    Posted: June 1, 2010 10:40 PM
    jingweit
  • farinspace

    Great presentation, awesome speaker ... a really great watch!

    Posted: May 17, 2010 1:46 PM
  • emurphy

    /This/ explains Foursquare.

    Posted: May 16, 2010 1:42 PM
    emurphy
  • PDL

    This man is amazing. Are there any other entreprenurs on this site within this field who make interactive artefacts for teaching kids?

    Posted: May 10, 2010 2:08 AM
    PDL
  • Ninjaloot

    MMO,MMO,MMO. That what its all about. Also, Facebook has an existing members list to hit on.
    the points systems in MMOs are second rate and rely heavily on how good the game they are for is. Ive seen the facebook games and am quite sure they were made for a more laxed type of gamer, and not for a hardcore gamer. Also , Ive played some more hardcore games that are free to download and utilize point systems for items, they are good, but not really up to par with say... AOC, WOW, and Cod (Age of Conan, World of Warcraft, and Call of Duty).
    if you are one of the few who think face book games are good money makers... make one better, it shouldnt be difficult. Just a large members list to work from, and a generator with good graphics, should do it.
    Cheers.

    Posted: April 28, 2010 9:19 PM
    Ninjaloot
  • isaiah.everin

    Basically: let's give people incentive to BE ALIVE by giving them points which pay off in various ways, I think is what he's getting at. His conclusion is that because all of our life will be tracked by these points and what we do, we'll begin to change our behavior because we don't want to be judged? So basically: if there's a record of our lives, we're so egotistical that we'll believe that someone is actually looking at and caring about that record, so we will be different people?

    On the shallow layer this works; as he shows, there's proof that it works, but there's many places where as a system it doesn't work (resource wise, politically, globally), it isn't sustainable, and at which it would stop functioning because once people are dependent on and cognizant of such behavior-modification, the system itself would be affected by that awareness and dependence and probably stop functioning fully.

    Additionally, it suffers from a lack of considering outside fields of information. There are certain things that are necessary to our developing globally, one of them being education. This "Gaming Up" of all walks of life, commercially and otherwise, isn't really anyone's goal. I suppose he's saying it will develop naturally because that's where the money is at (economic Darwinism), but hold up.

    Let's imagine a world in which all of this is remotely materially and financially viable, and that these systems exist in all the fields that AREN'T purely commercial (like he said, practicing music, being environmentally conscious); this world precludes the assumption that rationality has taken sway on the socio-political level and the world isn't controlled by capitalism and monopolies. That's a PRETTY BIG change.

    I think that change is necessary for his argument to be a utilitarian one because, for instance, how are we going to make the government offer tax incentives for public transportation? The reason that doesn't happen now is because conservatives wouldn't allow it, and that's because their big backing corporations don't want it, it's not in their economic interest in their pursuits of being billionaires. No one will make a lot of money off of public transportation or educational funding or environmental-awareness, so the commercial force, the invisible hand of capitalism, will not make anything he's saying come to be through what he relies on for his argument: economic Darwinism.

    Lastly, if you look at what's necessary for global sustainability, first comes education. If you look at people who come out of an Ivy League education and understand what causal behaviorism is, how do you think they're going to react if their entire world were made up of it? Honestly, I don't think a population of critical thinkers (which we need, not necessarily will ever have, but need) would fall for this, and a population of critical thinkers should be our goal.

    This guy is totally concerned with "millions of dollars, billions of dollars." For him, money is the end, and that's not how sustainability can ever viably be reached. His end product is people who act differently because they're afraid of how other people will think of them. No, this is DARK AGE thinking. This is the fundamental pillar of Judeo-Christian thinking. People don't care about what other's think about them, ESPECIALLY not in a cyber-landscape.

    If your goal is instigating actual critical thought, legitimate education is the only tool at your disposal. His presentation is cute, but it's rife with naive nonsense.

    Posted: April 12, 2010 1:53 PM
    isaiah.everin
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