Sessler's Soapbox: Is 3-D the Future of Gaming?

Posted: January 13, 2010
Sessler's Soapbox: Is 3-D the Future of Gaming?
Adam discusses all the new 3-D technologies shown off at CES 2010 and wonders if they will represent the next step in game immersion.

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  • Lokistur

    With all innovations, a great deal of risk is involved. Adam expressed a very valuable point in saying that like Quake 2 there could be desire to put the innovation of 3d on center stage rather than the gameplay or storyline. I must none the less say that just like for the wii that carries a big number of games that simply use the wii mote technologie as a gimic we also have some gems that have found their way to us.

    I believe 3d as we see it now is not a viable gaming solution just as Adam said it would add so little to the game, in addition it would raise the cost of development and add a slight learning curve for the developers. i do however believe that companies like Naughtydog or Ubisoft could find subtle yet ingenius ways to implement a technologie without making it seem forced in.

    I am not a member of the 3d crowd, i still find those glasses annoying even though i was personnaly put in a state of awe by the first 15 minutes of Avatar it nonetheless had a beautiful story ( Pocahontas rip off) to tell. But as always Adam, you carry strong opinions and transmit them with great cunning

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:57 PM
  • roscobot

    Im too inebriated to read all of these comments, so allow me to probly mirror just about all of you. I don't want 3d games. I think 3d is almost always cheesy and fun for a one time sitting. If I had to go through 145 hours of a game such as FF13 in 3d.......well, I wouldn't.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:56 PM
  • isirta42

    I'll agree with you Adam, that I don't see any gameplay design that could only exist with a 3D display. It's certainly not the panacea where developers and hardware designers should rush to solve their recession woes. However, allow me to play Devil's Advocate for a minute.
    As opposed to the long list of custom controllers or system add-ons that have littered the gaming lanscape over the years, 3D gaming has the flexibility of working on current hardware with current control systems. For developers it involves building a 3D option into the engine. It doesn't involve splitting a platforms' market into haves and have-nots. I don't see it overburdening development costs. And we've never begrudged games this year looking better than games last year even if that didn't add appreciably to the gameplay because we like the Eye Candy. And it's because we like the Eye candy that we have PS3's instead of PSones.
    Will supporting 3D gaming make or break the industry right now, no. But it's really not going to hurt, especially on the eyes. I can still remember vividly using shutter glasses for the first time in 1997 at the E3 in Atlanta playing GL Quake and eating a rocket in the face

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
  • 66jzmstr

    Agreed. I got to play Resident Evil 5 in 3D at PAX. Kinda neat, but not a major change, and hardly worth the bother of wearing clunky, grandma-style shades. It didn't enhance the story or gameplay, but merely separated a few objects an inch or two off the screen. Big deal.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:40 PM
  • ezeraeze

    Oh my God! Its true! I don't get why people actually thing Dane Cook is funny???!!! Seriously though, I don't think 3d would make games any better and can attract people. What makes games better is the game itself! Its like saying rogue warrior and wet wouldn't still be a joke when in 3d

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:38 PM
  • ezeraeze

    Oh my God! Its true! I don't get why people actually thing Dane Cook is funny???!!! Seriously though, I don't think 3d would make games any better and can attract people. What makes games better is the game itself! Its like saying rogue warrior and wet wouldn't still be a joke when in 3d

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:36 PM
  • Fex_Anderson

    I agree completely... All of this 3D is just a bunch of BS. Nothing about 3D is immersive, it does nothing to enhance the experience. Sure, Avatar had 3D and it looked good, but it did nothing to change the fact that the story was extremely generic. 3D really changes nothing. If they had put Transformers 2 in 3D, it still would've been terrible. On the other hand, I don't think I would've loved District 9 any more if they had put it in 3D. And, of course, this all also applies to games. Would Uncharted 2 or Modern Warfare 2 be enhanced with the addition of 3D? I doubt it. It would've just been a gimmick. That's all 3D is. A gimmick. But if it starts to take over I share Adam's fear that we will lose that perfect narrative flow that games seem to be getting back to. I don't know about the rest of you... But I want more Uncharted 2s and less Avatars.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:12 PM
  • ___1

    Honestly, 3-D is a gimmick and will always be a gimmick. No way around that fact. I just see it staying at the movies, and every so often a 3-D movie will come out. A large part of tv shows and video games do not have a lot of 3-D potential. For example, most shows don't have scenes where stuff is going to be flying past you. And games don't have much as well, save bullets and the occasional explosion.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 8:12 PM
  • Memu

    I couldn't disagree more with almost everything you said in this one, Adam. You have an irrational fear that if game makers concentrate on adding 3d FX to games games will get worse. I am a computer scientist and 3d is actually very easy to add with little effort. Adding 3d to games will not take away resources from making a good game. It is a simple effect of rendering the view from 2 slightly different angles and pumping them separately into each eye.

    Another illusion you seem to be under is that games are all about gameplay today and not technology. You cite Uncharted 2 as an example. This is a horrible example as much of what make U2 so good is exactly the technological enhancements. It is both the incredible visuals and the integration of physics with the shooting/climbing mechanics at a level that has never been done before that make U2 gameplay so involving.

    You sound really technophobe in this (and in the last feedback show). 3d is simply another effect to enhance the visual realism of games and movies. You may not find the effect to your liking, but many do. I really hope it catches on. It may not, but not because it is an unappealing effect, rather for technical reasons of expensive TVs and awkward glasses.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:57 PM
  • xiaolin99

    3D would be perfect for horror games.
    While I'm not a fan of this gerne, I did play resident evil 5, the game was 10 times more scary in 3D. I can imaging what effect 3D could have on a really scary game.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:46 PM
  • hardeebrad

    Agreed for the most part... But what happens with NATAL no controllers and u can grab and control things... It may have a say in t$he 3d scene. Just a thought.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:45 PM
  • spiralking04

    Why not XPLAY in 3D?

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:45 PM
  • implodinggoat

    I'd just like to applaud Adam for coming up with "A Nuremberg Rally of Consumerism". That is a truly fantastic analogy and while I don't think consumer electronics rightfully merits a comparison to National German Socialism, its still a brilliant analogy.

    It has so much potential I think I may have to rip it off in the future.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:42 PM
  • Izdoy

    Have yet to see Avatar so I can't vouch for that, however I've seen the majority of other 3D movies that came out and I must say it does not add much to it. This is like a return to the drastic change between color and black and white film, however this isn't as drastic. It'll be interesting to see where this goes and unfortunately I believe that in ten years we may be seeing 3D TVs in most homes. I don't want to see that day come, however it may.

    On a side note, I don't find Feedback boring at all Adam, it's rather interesting and informative, sure I know most of the news before I watch it but it's nice to see intelligent discussion on the larger topics of this medium and it's impact on the gaming community. Keep it up and I'm looking forward to Soapbox earlier in the week.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:33 PM
  • panzerfist

    I believe the future of gaming is when games start to impliment a form of "virtual matter" Where all of the architecture and even the character are made from this allowing for indepth interactivity, that almost matches real life. Now obviously to allocate that kind of data for what would amount to a magnitude unheard of in the video game world, but then again look at how much information we pack into a single disc, and think back 15-20 years at what a tenth of that seemed like. With the advent of terabit discs, i believe that's what will occupy that space, instead of prerendered and preloaded events

    Posted: January 13, 2010 7:04 PM
  • OzwaldZissou

    Is 3d the future of gaming and entertainment?
    NO. at least not for me. I don't want to wear some stupid glasses while I play or watch and until we don't have to, I say down with 3d. I agree with you Sessler, I just don't get it!

    Posted: January 13, 2010 6:55 PM
  • Swal

    I don't know if 3D gaming will work because I can't see into the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if the first batch of games caused severe cases of motion sickness.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 6:48 PM
  • goldenboy319

    Alright Adams on my side. Good to hear him say 3D is not necessary. Say no to 3D gaming!

    Posted: January 13, 2010 6:47 PM
  • Joe22

    3D doesn't seem in anyway able to work with gaming. In a first person perspective, if things were flying at you, then they'd be going through your head. In third person, if something were to fly at you then it is already past you and you shouldn't need to think about it. I can't think of one aspect of 3D visuals that could be in anyway useful to a game. As far as immersion goes, that's what the story is for, just write a better one.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 6:46 PM
  • topgamer101

    I don't get the 3-D thing either. I really do think it's just people pushing things forward in some direction because they ran out of space to move one direction.

    Posted: January 13, 2010 6:41 PM