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Sessler's Soapbox: The Modern Warfare 2 Airport Scene

Posted: November 11, 2009
Sessler's Soapbox: The Modern Warfare 2 Airport Scene
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  • SWATMASTER66

    I havn't really thought about it too much before now. I think it is a good thing to have in the game. I probably will play the mission. I haven't played the game yet, unfortunitly. But I will soon. And good luck Adam!

    Posted: November 13, 2009 2:45 PM
    SWATMASTER66
  • kings_legacy

    Their will always be someone in the world telling u whats right and not right and what to think(fox news).I totally agree with IW decision to keep this in.Look when GT3 came out every one was complaining it have the violence and beating up hookers but it was a gaming evloution taking it a step forward for games everywhere.When u take away peoples freedom of expression u start taking away freedom in general and start becoming oppressors yourselfs.

    Posted: November 13, 2009 1:32 PM
    kings_legacy
  • SynicVance

    I just don't like the message that it's okay for the good guys to intentionally kill innocent civilians or idly stand by while they are killed in front of them, as to not blow their cover. It's a message of the ends justify the means in relation to a life and death scenario. It's not something I wish to condone or experience. You may say, " Well I choose to play it", but the majority of you are more wrapped up in just playing the biggest game ever than actually asking yourself an honest question. Fact is, I want to play this game really really bad, but i'm not going to. I put well over 100 hours into Modern Warfare 1/COD4 and have been keeping up with all the new perks and toys, salivating at the thought of getting my hands on this game. I'm kind of upset at IW for putting such a needless level in the game. You couldn't have found another way to make the antagonist unlikable?

    Posted: November 13, 2009 8:09 AM
    SynicVance
  • pwncakes72

    One of the many things I respect about Adam Sessler and G4 is that they are making great strides in making gaming a mainstream media form. If it were not for Adam's coming appearance on Fox I feel that the press would have a field day with this and issues like it and undermine gaming as a respectable media. Let's face it, people in the media who do not view video games as possible storytelling outlets will overlook the fact that this scene is meant to engage the player in the story and coerce an emotional reaction out of them. It makes me happy that someone as knowledgeable as Sessler will be able to bring to light a different view of gaming as a whole. I know that this "debate" will not gain much attention but I hope that some rational people have a different opinion of the gaming sphere of culture after this (hopefully not be like "HOLY S*&^ YOU KILL INNOCENTS IN THIS GAME?! I MUST PROTEST THIS!", ya know that uninformed overreaction type thing, ya it will happen but hopefully they'll listen to what Adam has to say).

    Posted: November 12, 2009 9:10 PM
    pwncakes72
  • Kilabyte

    Shooting unarmed civilians in an airport is fine, just don't call them (Slang word for Cigarette) while your doing it, that's stepping over the line.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 6:45 PM
    Kilabyte
  • matchewlies

    honestly, i thought it was a great scene , it really gives you a motive to keep going, until the bad guy is brought to justice. however, I think it would have been better to include a scenario where you start shooting the terrorists, and instead of them killing you and restarting the level from a checkpoint, it would give you an alternate cutscene and go on to the next mission. I know this is gonna be a rallying call for fox news to Spew their collective hate and ingnorance on the gaming community, but having been a gamer since i was five, i can clearly say that we dont really play games for the same reason now as we did back in the day. back in the day, the sole purpose was to have fun and be entertained. Now, we really see that games are starting to separate the fun and entertainment. Single player is usually where the entertainment is, its the main story that you basically enjoy the same way you do a movie. multiplayer is where you go to have fun and mess around. i know that making that argument to the people at FOX news is pointless but i hope that at least someone understands and agrees with what im trying to say.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 5:46 PM
    matchewlies
  • gtamaster503

    Sessler for president

    Posted: November 12, 2009 5:20 PM
    gtamaster503
  • butmunch34

    I agree with you 100%.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 5:14 PM
    butmunch34
  • iaminside

    i was half way through the level, and i realized that what i was doing was terrible. When you first step off the elevator and everyone realizes what is going on was pretty cool. The ending to the airport level was increadable, it is the main reason the war is started.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 4:10 PM
    iaminside
  • the_azure_knight

    yeah i can see fox news all over the airport shoot out scene in modern warfare 2

    Posted: November 12, 2009 3:49 PM
    the_azure_knight
  • Snizzlewiz

    Amen Adam! AMEN!

    Posted: November 12, 2009 3:04 PM
    Snizzlewiz
  • xBLITZKRIEGx

    The media will inevitably sensationalize this because that's how they make their money. People love to get up in arms over stupid stuff like this.

    I remember when violent games like Mortal Kombat were 'debated' by politicians and this is no exception. People need to get over it... even a four year old can tell the difference between a video game and reality.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 1:12 PM
    xBLITZKRIEGx
  • Flynfsh

    good luck on fox adam - they are definitely going to try to take some pot shots somewhere... them being fox and all. they just need to realize what IW was trying to convey and maybe see that what they thought was the purpose really isn't.
    that's a great quote btw -

    Posted: November 12, 2009 11:03 AM
    Flynfsh
  • drummaboy89

    That scene is a great way of showing how the general is willing to sacrifice thousands of people to do what is (in his mind) right. He is willing to betray and kill anyone to get his way (even the main character). It is both an insight into his character and a way to show how intense the war really is. It is sad at how Fox News is covering this and who they let on their to defend the gaming industry. I bet that 80% of the people on this website and who watch G4 could have done a better job than him. No one gets offended when a Saw movie shows horrible mutilation but somehow they all are up in arms when Manhunt 2 shows the same acts. The antiquated section of society has always feared new mediums and ideas and video gaming is no different. The art form is going through growing pains and it will take some time before it is accepted as art but we will get there.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 10:48 AM
    drummaboy89
  • Lucifer6972

    That scene is the most badass scene in gaming history.

    That is something alright, boy, did i tore that place up. Do people feel condescending about it? Hey, I've talked about videogames and how it has a bad rep, don't think it was gonna happen. But I do recall reading something on it here but didn't see the video and boy, surprises are better.

    That scene is just crazy, it does make you feel like a evil person when confronting it, that's why some people may feel uncomfortable relating or even imagining it. But is just a videogame and if you really care, write to your local videogame publisher, director, writer, etc to make games more respectable and appreciative. Shouldn't seen this coming before you even seen it.

    In America, YOU get played! :)

    I'll shoot that place again and again, give me a f------ gun and tell I won't.

    PS: Told you things changed, this is America!

    Posted: November 12, 2009 9:31 AM
    Lucifer6972
  • BlueSteel90

    I completely agree with Adam, I felt like it was overall a realistic experience that happens everyday when countries are at war or infiltrating a terrorist cell. The whole "greater good" complex presented through the scene was executed in a really good way and I don't see any reason why Infinity Ward's interpretation of this type of event is any different from that of movies and tv shows that tread along the same lines. Gaming is a successful industry and even more it's an excellent story telling experience and I'm tired of it taking flack because of it being interactive and not something your just sitting and watching...especially when the people dealing the flack are the ones just looking to get a good story.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 7:00 AM
    BlueSteel90
  • SPE825

    Hopefully educated people will realize that shows like Fox & Friends are not news. These shows (as most "news" shows these days) are entertainment. And as such, they will sensationalize this and most likely not debate it, but rather they will simply stir the pot the pot in terms of controversy, creating further "news" to get more eyeballs to their programming. This is true for conservative as well as liberal media outlets.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 6:55 AM
    SPE825
  • The Face of Boe

    Adam, good luck with FOX News. But, the subject of the airport level I really think that it tried to make that step of making games more than just mindless entertainment. Yes it is a graphic scene, but it does give the game a overall better feeling. I became attached to game, i really began to understand that the war was out of control. IW did a good game with a good message.

    Posted: November 12, 2009 5:20 AM
    The+Face+of+Boe
  • Ch1ckenSniper

    Everyone makes a big deal about having to play a mission in a game where you must kill innocent civilians. Everyone must think about how you go the the movie theater and pay $7 to watch a move that sometimes consists of innocent people being killed by terrorists... People have to really watch what they make a big problem about... The CoD games from IW have always been extremely cinematic which means they'll have some "movie" sense in there which is why that mission was probably implemented. People have to shut the hell up...

    Posted: November 12, 2009 3:53 AM
  • dirufan

    the airport level was a very important piece of the story in this game, and the fact that people are getting upset over it shows how juvenile they are, because any normal adult can tell the difference between a video game and reality. they obviously felt the same way when the esrb was established and all games in america were required to be rated through them. i hate the fact that while its natural to mature it seems that people are going backwards and becoming more sensitive to things, and people like me sit back and have to ask, what the hell is wrong with these people?

    Posted: November 12, 2009 3:19 AM
    dirufan
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