The next PlayStation console, the PS4, may be called (or codenamed) Orbis. The next-gen Sony console rumors come from Kotaku's sources and reveal a holiday 2013 release date.
According to Kotaku's sources, Orbis will have an AMD x64 CPU and an AMD Southern Islands GPU, a high-end PC card. The Orbis would also have a resolution of 4096x2160. Most households don't have HDTVs that are capable of displaying that, yet. The Orbis will be powerful enough to play 3D games in 1080p.
That's all the good news. The bad news: The system reportedly won't be backwards compatible with PS3 titles. If you think that's surprising, then you're not going to like this. The Orbis will have some type of feature that will prevent gamers from playing used games. Supposedly, games will be purchased on a Blu-ray disc or via PSN download and only be playable on one PSN account. It's not clear how Sony would limit the use of retail copies. It's possible a used copy would only give you access to a trial of the game.
So what does Orbis mean? Wikipedia says it's a Doctor Who audio play. That doesn't help us at all unless Kaz Hirai will be the 12th Doctor. In Latin Orbis means "circle, orb, ring, disk, orbit, coil/ round / rotation." This could indicate the shape, the logo of the console. Orbis could just be the codename, similar to the Kinect's first name: Natal.
No matter what it's called, I'm going to be honest; this doesn't sound like a console I would buy. The anti-used games policy seems to punish gamers. The Orbis is rumored to be a few years away, but Song will still have a strong showing at E3 2012. Are these the features you want from the PS4?
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H0TSHELLZ
why in the hell are you guys crying..........JUST KEEP YOUR PS3 FOOLS ! or dont buy it, but please STFU about backwards compatibility.......who plays old games that much....... REALLY ?
ninenightmares
April fool's maybe?
Nadrojiskool
So Microsoft stops supporting the original xbox when launching the 360, but instead supports backwards compatibility.
Sony continue to supports the ps2, but instead decides to try and boost game sales (instead of console sales) by denying us backwards compatibility.
That is insane, utterly insane. Not supporting backwards compatibility is a deal break for me and I don't care that the Orbis is going to be better than the 720, I am going where I can continue to play my already amazing looking games. It's not like I'm going to stop buying new games. I don't understand why they are trying to get rid of used game sales ALONG WITH selling older games. Seems like you're being too greedy, at least that's what I think. Computer ftw anyone?
clafford
Maybe I'm just a(n admitted) fanboy of Sony, but I don't think think they are as disjointed as Microsoft from their fan base. A completely non-backwards-compatible system is out of line for them. Even when they cut out the ps2 from the 3, they still kept ps titles viable. I realize that was shrewd business on their part, as you still had hold outs who didn't want to upgrade at the higher prices.
I thought the Online pass was supposed to balance out the resale of games. If you buy a used game, you will have to chalk up the 10 bucks to Sony for the countless hours of online time you will log with this game. Playstation users get free access to a good online network. Admittedly, it has had a few bumps, but still 2 years with no real problems for a free service is good.
I don't know what changed the status quo, but an extra $10 straight to Sony every time someone new wanted in on online play was pretty fair. If Sony can quantify it better than some of the stuff the government is putting out, I'll toss in for the new system.
clafford
Maybe I'm just a(n admitted) fanboy of Sony, but I don't think think they are as disjointed as Microsoft from their fan base. A completely non-backwards-compatible system is out of line for them. Even when they cut out the ps2 from the 3, they still kept ps titles viable. I realize that was shrewd business on their part, as you still had hold outs who didn't want to upgrade at the higher prices.
I thought the Online pass was supposed to balance out the resale of games. If you buy a used game, you will have to chalk up the 10 bucks to Sony for the countless hours of online time you will log with this game. Playstation users get free access to a good online network. Admittedly, it has had a few bumps, but still 2 years with no real problems for a free service is good.
I don't know what changed the status quo, but an extra $10 straight to Sony every time someone new wanted in on online play was pretty fair. If Sony can quantify it better than some of the stuff the government is putting out, I'll toss in for the new system.
SH187
Not backwards compatible, is absolutely unacceptable, I�ve investested way too much time, dedication and money in my current collection of ps3 games, to just say: so long suckers!
I hope it will turn out to be a rumor.
Keth
If anything, they should be thinking about piracy more than used game sales.
Keth
It might work if Sony could manage to make 90% or so of ALL PS4 games be released on PSN (or whatever it'd be called) and leave only the biggest titles (GTA, Elder Scrolls, Uncharted, and the like) with physical copies and their "no-used" policy only really enforced on those retail games. As well having games sold at cheaper prices except for the retail releases.
So, yeah: Cheaper Games and Expanded Digital Distribution. Maybe then we'll talk.
(it'd be funny as hell if they tried convincing people to buy new tvs again.)
onepiece226
Well here's where Nintendo excels. A lot of the games on the other consoles that have online codes don't have them for the WIi at the moment so I don't know if they'll implement then for the Wii U but here's the big Nintendo win: All past expenses on all those Wii peripherals (Wii-motes, Balance Board etc.) will be used on the Wii U and all of your Wii Games will work. Look at the Wii, it didn't forget those Gamecube lovers and I see Nintendo continuing with this trend. Not saying omg the Wii and Nintendo are the best, but you gotta give them credit for not screwing you on money and at least giving you full backwards compatibly unlike Sony and somewhat Microsoft, who has most original Xbox games work but there's some I wish would.
Phoenixxx1974
then the PS4 will fail and retailers who rely on used games like Gamestop can refuse to sell the product therefor no sales.
Plus i have already heard dozens of people protesting the idea of anti-used games and are public about their choice to NOT buy one.
I guess the WiiU will own the market since it is not doing that and will basically own the market.
Thogin
They are pretty much trying to please the developers in making a game for them. Of course PS has their own in-house teams that makes them games like "Little Big Plant" and their exclusives.
They pretty much want to take the PC gaming model and not give you the freedom like a PC. I am a PC gamer and we haven't been able to share games since... I can't remember. However what we do have are MODs and other things we can change code and we get great sales.
What I am wondering is, will their prices adjust to reflect how well the game is doing. Lets say no one is buying the game will it drop 20 dollars? I don't believe you can do that since you would have to control all the physical retailers. So I predict gaming on console will get expensive because, A you can't buy use games and because you can't buy use games the original prices on the games won't drop. Sony is not going to be the only ones that does this Xbox will do it and the new WiiU will most likely do it in some way but not for all their games.
We come to the new world.
granpa_gamer-07
Look the news about the 360 are true i had service done on my 360 threw microsoft and called them because they were taking too long, i was talking to a customer service rep and said that i cannot beleive that microsoft i going to stop used games and he said yeah i know right there i knew that all next gen consloes well sont and microsoft are going to do this and honestly it will be the beginning of the end for gaming. In the early 80's people got tiered of paying alot of money for crappy gamrs and there were no used game stores like today and gaming crashed its going to happen again.
briggzie03
PSN is the new way to go. All game purchases, and DLCs should now be done through PSN for sony. Savea resources of billions of discs made and only really never used after about maybe 6months to a year.
Try this sony: purchasing games from PSN on PS4 at a discounted price, maybe 50%, which allows the complete download of the title, but only access of half the features. Example; Call of Duty:Modern Warfare 5 (just saying) bought at half its price on PSN allows complete download of the title onto hard drive(upgradeable), but only releases story modes and such for access, while mutiplayer requires purchasing the rest of the titles price for complete access. This leaves the window open to portion of people buying used games do to prices that may be hard to afford at times.
By buying games on PSN, allowing a back up of online storage of purchase history linked to your account just incase of some accident when system fails and you lose valuable hardrive space, allows for trust in gaming, saves reaources by going completely digital, and all gamers can get a piece of the action. Let gamestop be a place for demoing games before purchase and purchasing games from gamestop to your PSN account for download directly, if capable immediatly from store to your console on standby at home. Let game stores allow purchase through them as well, but mostly act as a demo and info outlet with all consoles and accessories. Look at this from all angles, the boss, the creator, the consumer, etc... Just do your homework and hear the people...
leshahom
if this turns out to be true I'll just switch to PC (or SteamBox)
shinichimaru
ps4 codename orbis. apparently "orbis" is another word for screwed
OneWingedAngelJL
Used game sales kill the gaming industry and makes them lose a crap ton of money. By making it so consoles can't play used games they're forcing gamers to actually purchase the product and support the companies that produced the game instead of supporting places like gamestop or your friend who gets bored with games after 2 weeks. And lets face it Hard copy games are a thing of the past. Digital games are the way of the future and it's best if we jump on board now instead of later. It's cheaper to produce digital games and they tend to be cheaper than their hard copy counter parts. Usually by $5-10. Also, this prevents you from being an idiot and purchasing crappy games or trading in a game that you liked but later realized how much you really loved it.
And hopefully through this digital world we get surprised and eventually have a digital library with every single game made for the older consoles available for digital download. It's how gaming is going to be and we just need to face it.
OneWingedAngelJL
Hardware makes the system work. Software makes the system sell. I want to see new games.
cerberusOD
I saw this news on Yahoo first, and well...I've got mixed feelings.
If they want to deter many from used games indefinitely, they'd better reduce the price of new games. I never liked the code system they offered for PSN users (where you buy a code for access to online features of newer games, if you bought them used and the original code has been used), and the price reduction of either the new games or online codes would surely keep many PS fans from abandoning ship. The lack of backwards-compatibility was a bit of a let down ever since the PS3 debuted, but after a while I realized that it wasn't all that bad considering the newer games being released, and even emulator programs seem like only for the really nostalgic gamers (which I am not of). Sure, it would've been a good feature to have, but now, at least in my opinion, it isn't really a MUST HAVE feature. Hell, I don't even play with my old PS2 anymore.
The overall enhancement to the performance and graphics, right now, doesn't really seem like much of a good trade-off for the lack of backwards-compatibility and the potential gutting of the consumer's wallet in order to enjoy both new and used games, not to mention the starting price of the console itself. But of course, there is time for Sony to decide what the PSO (Playstation Orbis) will actually be capable of as well as how much it will cost us and them to stay in the game.
cerberusOD
I saw this news on Yahoo first, and well...I've got mixed feelings.
If they want to deter many from used games indefinitely, they'd better reduce the price of new games. I never liked the code system they offered for PSN users (where you buy a code for access to online features of newer games, if you bought them used and the original code has been used), and the price reduction of either the new games or online codes would surely keep many PS fans from abandoning ship. The lack of backwards-compatibility was a bit of a let down ever since the PS3 debuted, but after a while I realized that it wasn't all that bad considering the newer games being released, and even emulator programs seem like only for the really nostalgic gamers (which I am not of). Sure, it would've been a good feature to have, but now, at least in my opinion, it isn't really a MUST HAVE feature. Hell, I don't even play with my old PS2 anymore.
The overall enhancement to the performance and graphics, right now, doesn't really seem like much of a good trade-off for the lack of backwards-compatibility and the potential gutting of the consumer's wallet in order to enjoy both new and used games, not to mention the starting price of the console itself. But of course, there is time for Sony to decide what the PSO (Playstation Orbis) will actually be capable of as well as how much it will cost us and them to stay in the game.
cerberusOD
I saw this news on Yahoo first, and well...I've got mixed feelings.
If they want to deter many from used games indefinitely, they'd better reduce the price of new games. I never liked the code system they offered for PSN users (where you buy a code for access to online features of newer games, if you bought them used and the original code has been used), and the price reduction of either the new games or online codes would surely keep many PS fans from abandoning ship. The lack of backwards-compatibility was a bit of a let down ever since the PS3 debuted, but after a while I realized that it wasn't all that bad considering the newer games being released, and even emulator programs seem like only for the really nostalgic gamers (which I am not of). Sure, it would've been a good feature to have, but now, at least in my opinion, it isn't really a MUST HAVE feature. Hell, I don't even play with my old PS2 anymore.
The overall enhancement to the performance and graphics, right now, doesn't really seem like much of a good trade-off for the lack of backwards-compatibility and the potential gutting of the consumer's wallet in order to enjoy both new and used games, not to mention the starting price of the console itself. But of course, there is time for Sony to decide what the PSO (Playstation Orbis) will actually be capable of as well as how much it will cost us and them to stay in the game.
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