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(This post contains Minor Mass Effect 3 Spoilers)
Mass Effect 3 hasn't even been on shelves for a full week, and there's already a movement growing to change the ending of the game. Disgruntled ME3 players have created a "Change the ending of Mass Effect 3 twitter feed," a facebook page to "Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3" and flooded polls on Bioware's forums. There's even a petition to change the ending of the Mass Effect 3.
Apparently, the ending of the game is a bit too dark for some gamers, and they'd prefer a more upbeat ending, as well as an ending where Commander Shepard's in-game actions have more bearing on how the game finishes.
Here's how the Facebook page describes the issue:
"Mass Effect 3 is a great game until the last few minutes; they destroy everything fans have been playing for in the past 5 years."
The Facebook page alone now has over 13,000 "likes," and phase two, a letter-writing campaign, is planned.
I haven't finished ME3 yet, so I don't personally know how well the ending works, but I hope that BioWare doesn't decide to change the ending of the game based on the complaints of gamers: That's not how art works. The audience doesn't get to pick the ending. If you like a certain kind of game ending, you can make your own game and end it any way you choose. I have faith that the great writers and producers at BioWare are better at deciding how their franchise will end than the people who play it -- they've earned that kind of loyalty and respect through years of making impressive, story-driven games.
But that's just my opinion. What do you guys think? How do you feel about the ending of Mass Effect 3? Do you think it should be changed?
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cyanbloodstar
I beleave the ending needs to be changed. Alls it did was anger there fan base. Allso with the DLC for the ending better be free after the $80,000 raised to change the ending.
blaq95
GriffinXP: The lack of closure is only one of the many reasons that a large portion of the Mass Effect community has been reaching out to Bioware for a better ending.
Simply put: it's lazy.
The entire final sequence and last twenty minutes of the game is full of plot holes.
(I link you to this as a comprehensive list: https://docs.google.com/docume nt/d/1QT4IUepvrU1pfv_B95oQj0H8 4DlCTUmzQ_uQh1voTUs/preview?pl i=1&sle=true# )
The Catalyst is nothing more than a universally reviled literary device - Deus Ex Machina.
The endings, which were promised to be wide in scope and personalized enough as to show the gamer the effect of their actions over the last three games, are ultimately nothing more than the results of one final choice that the player makes.
(And because this one choice has almost complete authority over the game's end, we are only given a few truly different ways in which it can conclude - in shades of Red, Green, and Blue.)
The final cinematics, no matter which path you do choose, are almost complete carbon copies of one another - with only minor variations in color palette to set them apart.
(Once again, I will refer you to an outside source for this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rPelM2hwhJA )
And yes, we weren't given the closure we were promised either.
So please, I ask that you don't belittle the movement. We, as a vast majority, are trying to give the developers the time they need to make things right, and in the mean time, help them to understand exactly where they went wrong. We want to give them the benefit of the doubt, and until they open a dialouge with us, we are trying to get our message out in the most constructive ways possible. To date, a drive to get the endings changed has netted almost 100,000 dollars for Child's Play & I've seen two separate mail-in campaigns dedicated to showing that Bioware that their fans really do care. While we recognize that there are some disatisfied gamers who would jump towards inflammatory action quickly, we are dedicated to resolving this as civily as possible and in no way condone their actions.
Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion on the matter.
wotrick
two choices? here is the beauty of Mass Effect, I chose option three and really dug the ending. even if I didn't I would never tell a writer how to end their story. Like No Country For Old Men, great movie but I didn't like the ending, main complaint I wanted to see Brolin die, but I would never petition studio to change that
spacetiger
After spending 50 hours playing MS3.I will say this.THAT WAS THE MOST HAREBRAINED ENDING EVER.Why is that you say??You just went thru hell trying to win this war and the only two choices you have are, to die on the left path, or die on the right path.HUH!!??....SAY WHAT?!...I know BIO WARE has the right to tell the story their way,but dam it let me make the choice if Shepard lives or dies that's what i have been doing all this time in this trilogy.I won't get into all the other odd ball things other people have done a far better job of covering that subject.Its just having this sorry excuse of a ending is not a way i wanted to end,afar better one could have been thought up.
Luke_nx01
Did G4 just wipe all the comments?
Tenka_Karasu
>Implying that a bleak apocalyptic world has not been the setting of many successful movies, games, books, etc for decades and longer.
And actually I don't need to format my statements in a "more coherent" manner for you to refute. If you wish to argue my point it is your responsibility to make your counter argument from what I have said. I shouldn't have to bullet point and have a full paragraph breakdown to get across a simple point: Companies make dickish cliffhangers to sell their next story.
This all comes down to a central disagreement: Is it ethical for a company with the proven ability and resources to produce an amazing story to leave so many unanswered questions at the "end" of said story just to get people to spend more money to find out the "real" ending. No, it is not ethical= . Are they within their rights? Yes, it's THEIR STORY. They can do whatever they want with it, even if that's to have Shepard turn out to be a robot the whole time and the world of Mass Effect only existed in his head and upon realizing this, he explodes. You can bitch and moan about how it wasn't what you wanted, didn't make sense, or just all around sucked but it doesn't matter.
Society should not have the ability or THINK they have the right to demand an artist/writer/musician, who is making something for multiple people to enjoy, change their work to suit the dissenters ideal of what is good or what makes sense. The whole idea of art as a whole is for the entirety of the people who view, read, or listen to it to have a reaction to it, regardless of what that reaction is. There are some people out there who actually liked the "ending" of the game and others (possibly even the majority) did not. But just because you paid money to go to an art exhibit, see a movie, listen to a symphony, buy or book, or (heaven forbid) purchase a video game that you have been dying to play since the first installment; you cannot reasonably expect your dissatisfaction with the game to be cause for the creator to change or "fix" their work.
There is a distinct line of difference between what you can reasonably (and sanely) expect someone to take back and redo. If you make my food wrong, regardless of how much it costs, it is reasonable for me to demand you remake it. And if I go to see a movie and think it sucks I may go ask for a refund or a free ticket (although there is a certain degree of fault on your part if you stayed till the end after not liking it halfway through) but there is no actual good reason, outside of you causing a boycott of their business and being an ass, for them to compensate you unless there was something the theater is at fault for. However it is completely unreasonable for you to buy food for you and your friend, not realizing the burger has pickles, and after receiving the food get indignant that it does indeed have pickles and demand that the burgers be remade without any pickles on either, even though your friend was fine with or even really likes pickles. You have no right to demand what you deem as the proper ending of a story, regardless of what it may be, when the game is not made for YOU, it is made for US. Everyone.
You don't have to like it, and I don't care if you do or not. It isn't your story, its their story, they made that universe. If you want to complain, feel free. If you want to write a strongly worded letter to the company, fine. But the moment you cross the line from being irritated with the way the story ends to starting petitions with the intention of forcing the company to change what they decided happens in their game, you are now attempting to suppress that persons/company's right to expression; i.e.: Fascism.
Now here is the question I ask of you: Is it ethical for a person or group of people to demand that another person or group of people bend to their will and do what they want them to do, regardless of how the second party feels about it?
Alien_Number_Six
The true ending of the game will be released in a DLC package. The ending given on disc is a smart way to get a lot of people to part with 10 dollars to see the real ending of the game
psychopathy80
You should probably finish the game before deciding that everyone is complaining about nothing. The ending was confusing and disappointing. Nothing you did in the game really mattered or affected the outcome. They claimed that there were multiple endings, but there was one with minor, meaningless differences. It was weak. It didn't ruin the game for me. It was a great game. However, it was cheap. It explained nothing and left too much unanswered. Also, your suggestions about creating our own game with our own ending was condescending and dismissive. People should have an outlet to express their reactions to something that they spent a lot of time, money, energy, and emotions into. I loved the game, but they dropped the ball at the end and shortchanged a lot of dedicated fans. A weak article defending a weak ending.
blaq95
THE FACTS:
Bioware Capitalize and promotes their mass effect games as the player being able to make choices that effect the actual outcome of a situation.
-All endings are practically the same with just a few seconds of extra in game footage being the difference.
Simple Unanswered Questions.
What happened to the other normandy crew members?
Did earth recover?
Why was Joker trying to outrun any type of blast?
What planet did they end up on?
Who was the grandfather at the end and where were they at?
Is that a girl or a boy in the last cinematic?
What happened to the reapers bodies Destroyed/Controlled?
Did joker and the crew recreate another society on that planet?
Were there any other people on that planet?
What happened to the citadel afterwards?
Did the synthetics eventually destroy organic life?
The biggest question is what the ENTIRE mass effect story has been about and went unanswered
The Reapers were meant to keep synthetic life from destroying organic life off( their reasoning was that it was an inevitability). To do this the reapers killed all advanced species every 50,000 years. After Shepard either chooses to destroy / control the reapers that is the end. We never discover whether synthetics destroy organics or not. Therefore mass effect didn't even answer the question it originally created.
Defense for Ending:
Most people are saying that we just don't understand the ending. Or that its a war and thats just how it is. However the beauty of cinema, gaming, story telling is in that it isn't real and we are omnipotent.
Offense for haters:
Most gamers aren't in a "unhappy" situation. It's simply a matter of closure. Its like watching a movie and cutting out the last 10 minutes. If you cut out the last 10 minutes of a movie then there was never any reason to watch it in the first place.
End Result:
30,000+ Gamers do not have closure on Biowares Mass Effect Trilogy (Facebook numbers)
gunner2246
I'm laughing so hard right now reading some of these comments.
The entire Mass Effect series, ME3 especially, has been designed to force the player into difficult choices. On countless occasions there have been 'no right answer' choices, and that's how it's meant to be.
The ending was made to emphasize this, only on a much larger scale. Now the player has to choose the best way to end the war and destroy the reapers but without a single clear cut 'this is what a super human amazing hero person would do' ending.
I know it's hard for some to understand, but an ending like this forces you to decide the fate of the galaxy without a perfect ending.
The problem is that now there are a bunch of players and can't grasp the concept of not having a game end exactly how the wanted it to and planned for it to since the beginning. If anyone wants to tell me that they would honestly be happier with a perfect ending in which everyone lives happily ever after then I want them to do two things. 1) Go watch a Disney movie, that may be more your pace. 2) Rebuttle me. If you don't know what that means, it means argue against me. I love a debate.
HBray
EVERYONE HATES THE ENDING. So there's no need for me to talk about the many reasons why the ending sucks and isn't an ending at all. I will say all the people who hate the ending automatically win the argument based on 3 simple things. 3 things are all that matter. 1. THE ENDING HAS NO DIALOGUE, all you see is a few flashes of the relays exploding and some dumb arse crash land...WTF? Mass Effect is all about dialogue so how come the ending has NONE! that leaves way too many holes. 2. WHY THE "heck" ARE WE GIVEN CHOICES, if all the long drawn out bullshyt we did since mass effect 1 mattered at all then by the time we got the ending bioware should just give us an ending. What in the world made them think this was okay. We select three different ending (WHICH ARE ALL THE *BLEEPING* SAME) So no matter what we did in me1 me2 and me3 it still comes down to 3 dumbarse choices that are just thrown at you. Everything we've by this point should make the ending and we should just be able to sit back and watch how all the choices we made change the galaxy. 3 lastly, THERE IS NO FREAKIN ENDING, a ending means for an end, a finale. We have been playing all the damn mass effect games trying to make the right choices so our ending, our story will be put to rest, for a game that says there will be no sequel (NO MASS EFFECT 4) why are we being forced to make a choice that really wont effect anything and gives us no ending, did shepard really live, where's our crew, how come our mate didn't get pregnant, wtf is this old man and this kid, mixing synthetics with organics! (THAT's WHAT IVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR?) That's no ending that's just a way to rise more questions. We have invested alot of freakin time in this we don't want to have more questions we just want an actual ENDING! *Not to mention the part where shepard says "so the illusive man was right after all" WTF DO YOU MEAN. STOP THE PRESSES. You cant just say something like that then talk over it like you didn't say that. So Ive been the bad guy all this damn time and should of let the illusive man have his way, then WTF am I fighting for, all my effort to stop him was for nothing! Seems to me bioware ran out of creativity when it came to the end and don't get me started on the part where you finally make it too earth and don't get to fight with the army or even see the other races fight on earth, and all you get is some quick battle scene. Guess The alliance and bioware have alot in common, there full of shyt! guess cerebus is where its at*.
HBray
wtf
Tailin
If you go to the theater and the film that was hyped for months doesn't live up to your expectations, you go ask for a manager and get your money back (or a free pass to another show). Theater management knows that sometimes it's worth the goodwill to give out free passes to keep you coming back. If they do put out DLC to address complaints it should be free, not some exorbitant fee that rubs salt in the wounds of fans.
foolishdemigod
Far before the game came out, I figured how the game was going to end. Digging back to a batman reference, "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." When I did get to the end of the game, I did feel a huge burden of sorrow from all the time I had invested into a character who could have the same ending as a less dedicated player. My turning point came a few days later when I heard the hero could be saved. I still did not manage this feat, but it was the idea that made it seem all the better. I figured that no matter the talents of the writers, their final conclusive summary could not live up to my ideal situation. It is here I accepted the ending. The writers showed how the main story ended, but if I knew the hero could live, I then took it on myself to make up the follow-up stories to everyone else, and as I see it, my ending would be the best, as it would be the best to another with a different approach. I would have liked to have seen my decisions and efforts pay off to reward my gaming endeavors, but if this is what I have, then I look forward to the day my slack-ass friends put their priorities straight and play the game to give us a nice conversation and discussion to what they say in their end.
TorqueBacklash
I feel they did drop the ball in more than one way. I don't expect to have a bunch of choices I made stand present but I wanted more information and logic to the paragon renegade choices. (Spoiler) Sticking to the moral high ground and to the plan made long ago and destroying the reapers is a renegade choice? Doing what Illusive man set out to do by claiming reaper control after calling it wrong 10 times is a paragon?! If We were given some more information after out choices about what happened I might be fine with it. seeing the relay bouncing, Normandy crash, and grandpa child moment in the end is not enough. What is the full effect of the blasts? I know the relays were gone, ships crashed what what else. I got a vibe that the geth may not exist in all the endings. I hate extreme cliff hangers.
CD4R
Maybe try finishing the game before you start criticizing the upset fans who also happen to be the majority of people that played the game. We don't want a happier ending. We want an ending that makes sense!
Tenka_Karasu
Wow, really guys? It's a game, a piece of art through graphics and storytelling. When did fans start to think that they dictated the outcome of a series, in any format.? If you don;'t like it too damn bad, its THEIR game. You don't see bioware coming to your little blog and fanfic picking apart the things you write and think would be cool, get the #*@$ over it. You're really going to sit and whine about how it didn't get a "happy ending"? It was war people, no one wins wars, there is only the aftermath and what you make of what you have left, just like LIFE. You wanted a super realistic sci-fi game? You got it, quit your bitchin'.
Luke_nx01
The response Bioware gave:
"We always intended to have a polarizing ending"
No you bloody didn't, that elevates this from mere ruining of a good story in th name of money to outright manipulation. This seems to show a fundamental lack of caring for the fans who made the series successful.
It's rather as though an author wrote a good book series, then on the last 3 pages withheld th ending and said instead "HAHA! I got you to care about what I was writing! Now I'm going to take advantage of that in order to make more money."
sijmister
Lol, I haven't seen the ending yet, but it sounds like the whole dev team for this game watched Neon Genesis Evangelion and got "inspired"? That series came out in 1995 and I still see fans griping about it =P. Maybe they should have watched RahXephon instead =P?
XBiowareFAN
All Endings are stupid,In Each ending the Mass relays are destroyed so now you have an entire alien fleet stranded in earths solar system,Earth can't support all those species...can we say mass starvation and destruction?
Here is the simplest coolest endings:
GOOD Ending #1-
Shepard kills only the reapers,
marry his/her love intrest in a big wedding were all species attend,Garrus is the best man.roll credits.
BAD Ending #2-
Shepard gains power over all reapers become emperor of the galaxy,Last scene is him ordering the reapers to attack
another galaxy.roll credits.
NEUTRAL Ending #3-
Shepard merges all organic and synthetic life,Show the newly merged organic/synthetic life rebuilding the galaxy togather under shepards direction.roll credits.
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