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Videogame Deathmatch Nerdfight: Nikole Zivalich Takes Gears of War Against Leah Jackson and Final Fantasy

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Posted April 1, 2011 - By Kevin Kelly







Nerdfight Leah Nikole

Videogame Deathmatch: Best Franchise edition is upon us and it comes as no surprise that G4 writers Nikole and Leah are fighting about which franchise should take the prize. Two legendary series are going head to head, one known as a multi-generation J-RPG and the other is an iconic Microsoft exclusive third-person shooter. Leah is defending her pick Final Fantasy as the one franchise to rule them all. Nikole knows otherwise and supports Gears of War as the number one video game series. Let the deathmatch begin! 

Leah: Nikole how can you possibly think Gears of War is a better franchise than Final Fantasy? Final Fantasy is iconic. It’s timeless, it has fans all over the globe of all ages with characters every kind of person can relate to (including furries). It even has chocobos, the most amazingly adorable thing to ever come out of a gaming franchise ever. So many games are founded on ideas that began with Final Fantasy and I don’t understand how you can even begin to think that Gears of War could hold a candle to something of Final Fantasy’s caliber.  

How does Nikole respond? Read on to find out!

Nikole: Where do I even begin? How about at the beginning ... Final Fantasy is misleading. How can anyone possibly trust a franchise that brags about its finality while having more installments than most gamers can count. There’s nothing final about it. I don’t even know how many FF titles there are, at least 35. With Gears of War you know exactly what you’re getting yourself into. Gears are infantry soldier of the Coalition of Ordered Governments. They signify the well-oiled machine that is fighting against the Locust Horde. Get it, Gears, machine, teamwork: just thinking about it makes me tear up. 

Leah: Tear up? There’s nothing even remotely emotional about Gears of War, it’s just a bunch of macho douchebags yelling at each other. What could possibly make you tear up at anything other than how much you’re laughing at them? Final Fantasy on the other hand is filled with emotional stories that could make even those burly dudes from Gears cry. Think of all the people that love Final Fantasy 7, it’s not my favorite of the series but I know tons of grown men who admitted to crying when Aeris died, or when Zidane came back from the dead in FF9 (the best game ever). These stories are worth remembering and very few other games draw you in like a Final Fantasy game can. Plus, FYI there are over 100 types of Final Fantasy games, Gears might signify a well-oiled machine but it’ll never live up to my love of monkey men and magic casting princesses.    

Nikole: Gears of War does have a story. Humans are fighting for survival against the Locust army. On Emergence Day every single human city was attacked. Billions of humans died, thousands went missing. Looking back the COG soldiers who survived say "The lucky ones died on E-Day." It is actually a very dark story; humanity has a bleak chance of surviving. That’s why they fight, to defend the people who are left. Marcus lost his father (OR DID HE?!) And Dom lost his wife. He spent all of Gears of War and most of GoW2 looking for her.

He eventually found her, she had been lobotomized and starved. He was forced to kill her out of pity. I apologize to readers who are weeping right now. Dom didn’t cry though, he just FOUGHT THROUGH THE PAIN. But you know what, real men don’t cry. The men in Gears of War are huge, testosterone driven killing machines. Marcus’s forearm is bigger than Cloud. The men of Gears would eat the boys of Final Fantasy for brunch, that’s a made-up meal. Gears is known for its guns, lancers, and curb-stomping, whereas FF is known for its androgynous characters and whining. I don’t even know what gender Faris is. Now that I’m thinking about it Sephiroth looks like a chick, I have no idea about Hope.

Leah: I’ll admit that Hope is a whiny little brat and I wanted him to die for most of Final Fantasy 13. But you can’t deny that even though the men are all a bit fabulous throughout the Final Fantasy series (except Balthier, he’s a straight up BOSS) there is such a variety of them that quite a lot stand out. You’ve got villains like Kefka from FF6, an eccentric lunatic but a brilliant and widely loved character, all the way to strong female characters like Lightning in Final Fantasy 13 or Tifa in FF7.  

Gears has like two main characters that are slightly memorable whereas in each of the main FF games there are parties of characters that have amazing backgrounds, come from exotic places, have rad hairstyles, and everything else you could ask for in an awesome game. Just thinking of the cosplay opportunities makes me happy. It boils down to how iconic these characters have become over twenty years, even you know about Cloud and Sephiroth. That’s why Final Fantasy is better than Gears.

Nikole: I know about them because I’ve heard people complain, primarily about the time commitment involved. When I borrowed FF13 I didn’t really like it, I put in 6 hours and still couldn’t stand it. Want to know what FF-fans told me, “it gets good after 25 hours.” How is that an acceptable argument? Then on top of that they just announced FF13-2. You gotta know when to fold ‘em, when to hold ‘em, and when to walk away. From the moment you start playing Gears you’re immersed in the world. And that’s just the single player.

Gears 2 has numerous multiplayer modes including horde. Dedicated servers would be nice in Gears 3, wink wink Epic, but overall, multilplayer is great and because of updates, is always getting better.  Epic has done so much to make sure their fans always have a reason to keep playing, DLC maps, XP weekends. I even forgive them for delaying so many announcements. Gears of War: Exile, the Kinect Gears game where you dance your way to freedom, I know you exist! 

And you know what? I hate to bring this up but you know why Kingdom Hearts 3 isn’t out? Because of Final Fantasy. The team that’s supposed to work on KH3 is working on FF13V. Game. Set. Match.

Leah: Aha! So the reason you hate Final Fantasy so much is because it’s delaying a game that’s BASED ON FINAL FANTASY? What!? If you love Kingdom Hearts so much then you’re used to games that suck for the first five hours anyway, so whatever. And who cares if Gears 2 has multiplayer, so does every other game coming out now, it’s practically required at this point. FF doesn’t just have weekends of perks to keep people interested, it has full fighting games, RPGs, MMORPGs, action games, movies, clothes, comics, and is always coming out with new stuff to keep their hardcore fanbase happy. Maybe to you less is more, but I will never get sick of Final Fantasy, keep ‘em coming! 

Nikole: NO, stop them from coming! Gears of War 3 will be out in September and the Gears of War series will continue its reign over all the land. Boom! Headshot.

In the end, it will be up to you, the readers, who will win Videogame Deathmatch: Best Franchises. Vote now and have your voice heard.

Videogame Deathmatch Nerdfight: Nikole Zivalich Takes Gears of War Against Leah Jackson and Final Fantasy
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  • Rawwwwr

    my vote goes to ff. and people need to know why its called final fantasy...it was called final fantasy because Square was bankrupt and going out of business and had only enough to make one last game so the man you made final fantasy wanted the game to be an epic fantasy and his final game hence the name final fantasy.. the game saved the company and now the company is named square enix which is one of the biggest game companys. and anyway these games ae both of differant genre how can you compare them

    Posted: August 19, 2011 2:44 PM
    Rawwwwr
  • Lord_Ruinous

    How can Gears Of War be a better franchise if it is limited to only one console? FF is on almost all of them, including handhelds.

    Posted: April 4, 2011 3:17 PM
    Lord_Ruinous
  • HowZer

    This "Videogame DeathMatch" is fail....

    Final Fantasy is a legend in the RPG industry and when
    being compared should only be compared against itself :)

    I have FF games i have owned for years and still occasionally play
    "i don't think there are to many GOW players going back to play GOW1
    when they own 3"

    and sure FF13 was a fail i hated it just as much as the next person
    "but if your basing your vote off that one game go back and play the originals
    and you can see a time where the storyline sold the game not the graphics"

    Posted: April 3, 2011 8:46 AM
  • firecloud42

    Final Fantasy FTW...GOW is a Baby Franchise compared to FF, Zelda, and even Pokemon, yeah thats right Pokemon (I'm talking about the Games not the Show BIG difference). The Final Fantasy Games are rememberable and you can pick it up and play again (some are easier than others *cough* VII *cough*). I don't have that feel with GOW.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 10:10 PM
    firecloud42
  • aCanadianGuy

    Dear G4TV,
    Next time, get two people who have actual knowledge and real insight debate over two games that are relatively similar such as Gears of war vs Killzone or Final Fantasy vs Legend of Zelda.

    Thank you for reading.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 9:43 PM
    aCanadianGuy
  • aCanadianGuy

    Nikole must be mentally challenged to think the title "Final Fantasy" is misleading.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 9:24 PM
    aCanadianGuy
  • aCanadianGuy

    Sorry to sound sexist here, but why are these two dumb chicks bickering over two Franchises that are on total opposite sides of each other?

    Gears of War vs Killzone, i can see that being a more sensible argument

    Final Fantasy vs Legend of Zelda, more of a tough debate.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 9:11 PM
    aCanadianGuy
  • aCanadianGuy

    Sorry to sound sexist here, but why are these two dumb chicks bickering over two Franchises that are on total opposite sides of each other?

    Gears of War vs Killzone, i can see that being a more sensible argument

    Final Fantasy vs Legend of Zelda, more of a tough debate.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 9:09 PM
    aCanadianGuy
  • aCanadianGuy

    These chicks really need something better to argue about.
    Why bicker about Final Fantasy vs Gears of War? Makes no effin sense.

    Now for those who said Gears of War > *,
    You must be mentally ill to say that.

    Final Fantasy Franchise vs Legend of Zelda is more of a better argument battle.

    Gears of War vs Killzone would make sense.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 9:06 PM
    aCanadianGuy
  • Clorox42

    I still vote for gears...

    Final fantasy is losing its edge now FF13 made my cousin fall asleep and i didnt like it a little although id like to know the story.

    FF14 was also bad as ive heard from reviewers and gamestop player rated it as 6.0

    Posted: April 2, 2011 4:02 PM
    Clorox42
  • Chandledorf

    Final Fantasy gets my vote. Gears of war is an amazing franchise and a blast to play. Get a room of friends together and playing horde for 6 hours = fun sauce, and campaign who wouldn't love it? But it's not a game series that I'm going to compell me to go back and play again. Now final fantasy, totally different story. FF has such a great narrative and set of interesting lovable characters, that it actually makes you care about the world and whats happening in it. I want these characters to succeed and be happy ( Tidus & Yuna) I must admit final fantasy X made me choke up... That doesn't happen...
    These games make me want to go back and re- live the story ( February - dedicated to FF games). Gears is never going go be that hard hitting. In 5 years I'm never going to give Gears 1 another thought. Theres just going to be something better out and it's going to seem old & outdated. Both amazing franchises but for me no contest.... Now Final Fantasy vs Zelda. That would be a toughy

    Posted: April 2, 2011 4:12 AM
    Chandledorf
  • Chandledorf

    Final Fantasy gets my vote. Gears of war is an amazing franchise and a blast to play. Get a room of friends together and playing horde for 6 hours = fun sauce, and campaign who wouldn't love it? But it's not a game series that I'm going to compell me to go back and play again. Now final fantasy, totally different story. FF has such a great narrative and set of interesting lovable characters, that it actually makes you care about the world and whats happening in it. I want these characters to succeed and be happy ( Tidus & Yuna) I must admit final fantasy X made me choke up... That doesn't happen...
    These games make me want to go back and re- live the story ( February - dedicated to FF games). Gears is never going go be that hard hitting. In 5 years I'm never going to give Gears 1 another thought. Theres just going to be something better out and it's going to seem old & outdated. Both amazing franchises but for me no contest.... Now Final Fantasy vs Zelda. That would be a toughy

    Posted: April 2, 2011 4:11 AM
    Chandledorf
  • miva2

    Obviously Disgaea is the best franchise ever. They just don't talk about it because it's common sense and to give other franchises a chance.

    hmm, i'm not a fan of either FF or GoW but my vote has to go to FF between these 2.
    FFXII sucked imo, i enjoyed the first few hours the most because it was still new. i have played the beginning of FFVI many years ago, unfortunately it's hard to find that game. I'll play one of the older FF's some time.
    FF Tactics Advance was my favourite game for a while, before i got to know Disgaea.
    I have to say, the world in FF's is good, the gameplay could be better. Unfortunately for SE, i buy games for their gameplay.

    After Bulletstorm maybe i should try to play gears somewhere. Epic make epic games.

    Posted: April 2, 2011 3:46 AM
    miva2
  • Cathartic Denoument

    I'm sorry, Leah. As much as I like you & respect your opinion ("I'm really happy for you; I'ma let you finish, but..."), I'll have to side with (my TGS-Army commanding officer, Captain Zivalich) NikoleZ, on this one; between these two franchises, Gears of War is the Best Franchise.

    Why? While "Final Fantasy" is an established "franchise" by name, that is all it's enumerated games share - the "Final Fantasy" NAME (and MAYBE the chocobos/moogles). They all might as well be renamed *Forever* Fantasy, now that they're into their 14th iteration (spin-offs notwithstanding).
    There is no plot continuity between each game (excluding 10, 10-2, 13, & 13-2), nor are there any recurring characters. They're all basically standalone games, and therefore CANNOT technically be called a "Franchise".
    And the only game that looks decent enough to get into is the one that isn't even out yet - FFVersus13.
    They need to hurry up & COMPLETE the rest of the FF13: Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation [Versus 13 & Type-0 (formerly Agito 13) ], and CANCEL 13-2, so they can GET TO WORK on Kingdom Hearts 3.
    And at least Gears makes grinding to Level 100, FUN.

    [Also: Nikole looks bad@$$, holding that Lancer. D@@@mmnn..LoL]

    Posted: April 1, 2011 10:42 PM
    Cathartic+Denoument
  • Aburame

    Yeah, you can;t put these two up against one another and saw one is better because it has more games.
    More years=More games and copies sold.
    Multiple platforms=More games, spinoffs, and copies sold.
    One originally aimed at North American audiences VS Japanese audiences.
    Really, who is going to be the winner when one has had more time to develop and refine itself? You cant compare the two when they are barely anything alike.
    I'll take Gears... but thats because I could never get too much into the FF games, though I do like a J-RPG every once in a while.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 9:19 PM
    Aburame
  • JokermanUno

    These Deathmaches haven't even been fair matches. I mean Gears vs. FF? Final Fantasy of course!

    Posted: April 1, 2011 7:10 PM
    JokermanUno
  • DaBigFatCow

    Im with Nikole on this one.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 5:39 PM
    DaBigFatCow
  • Admiral_Ackbar

    Sweet the two people at G4 with the least knowledge or insight into video games. Cool job guys! Having a vagina does not instantly make you cool.

    Posted: April 1, 2011 3:48 PM
    Admiral_Ackbar
  • JimmyWild

    Sorry Nikole, gotta go with FF in this one. I really liked the first Gears, but FF has too many great titles with too many great memories for me. High5 Leah!

    Posted: April 1, 2011 3:42 PM
    JimmyWild
  • Matt731

    i like both, but ill take badass over glamoroous. Gears baby

    Posted: April 1, 2011 3:34 PM
    Matt731

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