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Videogame Deathmatch: Leah Jackson vs. Nikole Zivalich

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Posted December 10, 2010 - By Eric Eckstein






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Videogame Deathmatch: Starcraft 2 vs. Mass Effect 2

Videogame Deathmatch has consumed us all for the past several weeks. The staff of X-Play and G4tv.com's web team have spent entire days debating which game was the best with each new bracket. Every game that entered the proverbial Deathmatch ThunderDome deserved to be there. All were unquestionably great titles. But as with any epic battle when two enter, only one shall leave victorious.

It might be challenging to see which game deserve the title of Best Game of 2010 but for two of TheFeed's writers the choice is clear. Leah Jackson is positive StarCraft 2 deserves the title Game of the Year. However, Nikole Zivalich knows Mass Effect 2 is the rightful heir to The Game of the Year throne. The two must fight it out the only way they know how. Pillow Fight. Enlightening and lengthy debate.

NIKOLE VS. LEAH.... FIGHT!

VS.

Opening Statements.

Nikole: Clearly, Mass Effect 2 should win the Videogame Deathmatch because it's a unique gaming experience for each person who plays it. BioWare, the masters of RPG, have built upon everything we loved from Mass Effect 1 and fixed the things we didn't. They improved the inventory system, fighting mechanics and added even more layers to the story. Most importantly, your choices don't just affect the game, they make the game. You decide what to say, who to help, when to help them. My decisions decide who lives and who dies. I am Commander Shepard.

Leah: My decision is that YOU’RE WRONG. Starcraft 2 should take the win because it’s the total package: a great campaign, side missions, mini games, achievements, and something your sci-fi space romp doesn’t have: multiplayer! The game is simply a masterpiece and its multiplayer is the icing on the cake. How can Mass Effect 2 even compare?

Nikole: Let’s talk about what’s really important, Wrex. He’s a giant toad-alien with a heart of gold and a shotgun of whatever shotguns are made of. Iron? Is that why I kept mining it, for shotguns? Anyway, what amazingly loveable characters does Starcraft 2 have? 

Leah: Who needs loveable when you have total badasses? Though, if you’re looking for a heart of gold you don’t have to look any further than Jim Raynor.  He went to hell and back just to save the love of his life Kerrigan from her Zerg infestation. I can agree that the appeal of SC2 isn’t all about its characters though, there's so much more.

Nikole: If you love Jim so much why don't you have consensual space sex with him? Can you pursue adult relationships in StarCraft 2? You can in Mass Effect 2. I'm not talking cheap GTA sex, I'm talking meaningful, hours of dialogue sex. You actually have to earn the trust and respect of these characters. You can "romance" Miranda, Jacob, Jack, and Kelly, and those are just the people. This game not only promotes same-sex couples, it also encourages inter-species relationships. Finally, change I can believe in. You can also get it on with Thane, Tali, and Garrus. Granted, I still wish I could do it with Mordin, Grunt or Leigon but I'll take what I can get. What kind of relationships does Starcraft 2 have?

Mass Effect 2

LeahSC2 doesn’t have any weirdo alien sex like Mass Effect 2. That’s strange. And it’s weird how much you’re into the alien sex to be honest. If we’re talking about relationships, I have to bring up the relationships and friendships that can be found and had through Starcraft 2’s multiplayer. It’s a worldwide phenomenon and it brings together friends and new people from all over the globe to fight against one another or even to work together towards a common goal. Mass Effect 2 doesn’t even HAVE multiplayer. It just has a lot of big guns.

Nikole:  First off, in my main save I didn’t have sex with anyone because I was staying true to Kaidan Alenko, my love from Mass Effect 1. I wanted to carry over that relationship across the trilogy. Yes, there were other files where I dabbled in alien-sex, but that’s neither here nor there. I’m a weirdo, but a loyal weirdo! Mass Effect 2 does not have multiplayer, but that is no way a flaw. It’s a two-disc action-RPG. It didn’t need that type of gameplay to make it an encompassing experience. What it lacked in actually playing with other people it made up for with the conversations I got to have with every person I knew who played it. Each one of us had a different experience. Different classes, a plethora of weapons, and a non-linear story that allowed you to decide who you recruited and the level of loyalty you wanted from them meant no people two people had the same story or ending. Plus there are the choices from ME1 that shape ME2. I spent hours talking about the different ways I went through the game with someone who made totally different choices. Mass Effect 2 is a snowflake dammit!

Leah: If Mass Effect 2 is a snowflake, then Starcraft 2 is a blizzard. Pun intended. In StarCraft 2 there isn't simply one way to play the game. With both the campaign and the multiplayer you’re able to make hundreds of different strategic choices based on your personal playstyle. In the campaign, there are upgradeable units and in some missions you can choose different paths just like you can in ME2. Two players’ campaign experiences will be completely different. Each of the three available races in SC2 multiplayer offers endless varities and ways to play against your opponents. You’ll never play the same game twice in multiplayer whereas ME2 only gives you the choice to be good or evil. Once ME2 is over, that’s all you get, right? SC2 is never ending.

StarCraft II

Nikole: Right? Wrong. Mass Effect 2 is like the song that never ends. The Cerberus Network allows you to download tons of additional DLC. Upon the game’s release there was already free bonus content that instantly added to ME2’s life. Over the past year DLC packs have been released for minor things like appearance, to major things like bonus characters with their own loyalty missions. Then there was Lair of the Shadow Broker which didn’t just add hours, it allowed you to further explore a mission from ME2 and help bridge the relation gap left with Liara after ME1. It gave me closure I didn’t even know I needed. Over a dozen pieces of DLC for an infinitely re-playable game, all in 11 months. How long did Starcraft 2 take again? 37 years?

Leah: 37? Can you even count that high Nikole?! I’ll admit it did take a long time for SC2 to come out but for good reason. The amount of polish and shine on the game is easily visible to anyone who bothers to play it. Plus there are two expansion packs on the way to offer more chapters in the StarCraft storyline. While DLC is cool and all, if ME2 actually had any type of story outside of the boring loyalty quests, then maybe they wouldn’t feel like they needed to come out with all this extra content in the first place. And speaking of a song that never ends, the StarCraft community is constantly a chorus of millions of people offering advice, stories, game replays, commentary, and more. There really is no other gaming community out there like the SC2 community. Does ME2 have anything that even compares?  

Nikole: Sure. There’s a community there. The BioWare forums are rampant with gamers who love the series. I think Mass Effect 2 appeals to a much larger group of gamers in terms of dedication to gaming. When it comes out on the PS3 next month it will be a multi-platform success too. I just don’t think a game that's only for the PC will win Game of the Year. There, I said it. But we could fight about this for hours, we should probably just let the readers decide. Have you seen my pillow?

Leah: Yeah, come and get it.

Videogame Deathmatch: Leah Jackson vs Nikole Zivalich

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  • b09h

    g4 community is full of scums, go play your consoles, you mindless disgusting tools

    Posted: July 19, 2011 10:44 AM
    b09h
  • ParagonAlex

    I think everyone who has played mass effect 1 or 2 will remember the 100's of hours they put into it, exploring the deep storyline, making different, choices, different characters, and doing tons of side quests. And if you didn't play through mass effect at least 10,000 times, then you won't have thoroughly explored every aspect of the game. SC2 is a good game, and well worth the wait, but how can you compare it to mass effect. SC2 has a cliche story, and you still get the SAME ending in each campaign, regardless of your strategic choices. After that, all there is left is multiplayer. Sure the multiplayer offers hours of strategy and competition, but is not nearly as satisfying as delving into a realistic world (galaxy) with believable characters and countless of open ended side quests and missions. Mass Effect makes you care for what you are doing, and brings out your true thoughts on many issues. you can play beyond good and evil (no pun) and choose other routes based on your own opinions. In the end you shape the galaxy the way you see it, thus making it the most beautiful game ever created (so far). Mass Effect is the way of the future, and is the beginning of a new age of artistic development, beyond books and movies. SC2, you lose.

    Posted: December 28, 2010 2:49 AM
  • Dorkenmore

    Here's my take on this debate... How about let's say that it never happened, because it doesn't make any remote sense to compare the two games. They are completely different and were created to satisfy a totally different set of demographics, put platform aside. I understand that G4 needs to do this to keep up community involvement and try to give something a game of the year, (in my mind, trying to narrow down a game to call game of the year is stupid anyway) but all it is going to do is throw a torch into the bat-cave that is the internet and cause a massive stir so that people have to verbally rip each other apart, so please stop. It is just getting childish.

    In my opinion, they both deserve games of the year, because they were both excellent titles for completely different reasons.

    Posted: December 19, 2010 3:04 AM
    Dorkenmore
  • Zauberin

    whoops. double post :|

    Posted: December 12, 2010 11:24 AM
  • Zauberin

    SC2 FTW. Perhaps I haven't played ME2, so I am biased, but keep in mind that the Starcraft community kept the first game alive for YEARS after it was released; that alone is evidence of the staying power of this game.

    To add to what I think is also important about SC2, is the fact that I have a crappy computer. At least it was awesome 4 years ago, yet my PC could still run this game, albeit at low graphics, it doesn't take away from the gameplay in the least, making the game capable of reaching even those who can't always afford an upgrade to their PCs.

    And regardless of what people say, multiplayer is a HUGE deal. Multiplayers keep a game alive for a long time, after you've played whatever's left of single player, the game is done. ME2 will not have that level of replayability because the multiplayer community is lacking.

    SC2 wins. Hands down.

    Posted: December 12, 2010 11:23 AM
  • Zauberin

    SC2 FTW. Perhaps I haven't played ME2, so I am biased, but keep in mind that the Starcraft community kept the first game alive for YEARS after it was released; that alone is evidence of the staying power of this game.

    To add to what I think is also important about SC2, is the fact that I have a crappy computer. At least it was a bad@ss 4 years ago, yet my PC could still run this game, albeit at low graphics, it doesn't take away from the gameplay in the least, making the game capable of reaching even those who can't always afford an upgrade to their PCs.

    And regardless of what people say, multiplayer is a HUGE deal. Multiplayers keep a game alive for a long time, after you've played whatever's left of single player, the game is done. ME2 will not have that level of replayability because the multiplayer community is lacking.

    SC2 wins. Hands down.

    Posted: December 12, 2010 11:21 AM
  • HugTherapyBear

    being that my computer is an ancient machine from a time known as "The nineties" I have not played Starcraft 2. I only played Mass Effect 2. That being said, Bioware, you screwed up. There was almost NO free roam, not like the first where there was at least one extra mission for every star system. Secondly, the story was not as epic as I would have hoped! The first one just gave me a much better feeling, and more accurately portrayed that fact that you're a small person in a massive universe. But finally, this is the worst of all; AMMO. I'm not sure what made Bioware want to add ammo (And a tiny amount of it) into the mass effect universe, but I do not like it. It is the devil, unoriginal, and for me, game ruining. (I would be more willing to compromise if it were more like Alan Wake's flashlight, where you can reload, but also let it cool down on it's own.) I actually found myself going back to Mass Effect 1, as it is a vastly superior game to its sequel.

    Posted: December 12, 2010 6:27 AM
    HugTherapyBear
  • ColeKinion

    CatFight to the death! haha. (;

    Posted: December 11, 2010 3:47 PM
  • ColeKinion

    CatFight to the death! haha. (;

    Posted: December 11, 2010 3:47 PM
  • Razorstorm

    Ooh sorry ME fanboys its real ;) SC2 won and everyone will remember it like SC1 11 years and people still playing it and ME1: i think maybe >1000? SC1:much more people are playing it guys you even cant count it

    Go and cry ME fanboys we can hear it =P

    Posted: December 11, 2010 2:17 PM
    Razorstorm
  • Battoussai38

    Forgive me for asking, but isn't Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty only an actual third of what its going to be? It seems to me it took Blizzard ten years to polish a game and not revamp anything major. An RTS will always feel like an RTS. Mass Effect 2 however got an entire face lift. The new leveling system, new armor system, weapon system, combat system, etc. Not to mention all of the fantastic DLC Mass Effect 2 has gotten. Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker were amazing. Does SC2 even have any DLC yet? Because all I remember hearing is that they'll be getting some new crap like an in-game Bejeweled in 2011...

    Posted: December 11, 2010 12:30 PM
    Battoussai38
  • Thogin

    I am sorry, I reported someone by clicking on the report by mistake.

    I think SC 2 should get it. Because ME2 was a great game but wasn't it just a game with a better paint job than the ME? I find the game play a little linear for my liking for being a RPG.

    I vote for SC 2 because well, the characters are great and custom maps and stuff.

    Posted: December 11, 2010 8:26 AM
    Thogin
  • Wolfhammer

    both are great games but i cant go against mass effect when Ive sunk more hours into it than the entire assassins creed and halo series combined

    Posted: December 11, 2010 8:21 AM
    Wolfhammer
  • nhhs18

    SC 2 is just an elaborate game of rock, paper, scissors. There is mining involved, which allows you to build stuff, which then kills other stuff, that you get to WATCH happen over and over again while you wait another decade to play again. People want to believe it's the best game ever because they waited so long for it to come out they have to feel it was worth the wait. ME 2 is an experience that I have played through several times and each time feels fresh and different. When someone in your crew dies, you feel discouraged and sad that you let someone down because you got to know them and they trusted you. It's not some pawn in a squad who is just a number.

    Posted: December 11, 2010 6:38 AM
    nhhs18
  • girl123

    They both great games, but what sealed the deal for me with starcraft 2 is the powerful customization of galaxy editor, you can basically create another game inside starcraft 2. For example; DOTA, Mario Party, FPS, Musical, Arcade, and RPG types games. If the map creators have a lot of time and dedication they can even make games similar to mass effect and even sell to public (battle.net map market, just like steam market of selling user make game) using Starcraft 2 engine.

    You can check out www.sc2mapster.com for examples videos. here a examples

    Metal Slug - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oAvZlonNTDg
    Musical type game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ayAJ_aiS7gw
    Massive starship battle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0fomJAHoK0I
    Warfare cinematic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ow_GK6WPO88
    FPS type of game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6newFTnKuWQ
    Top Down shooter - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =aB12Gy9zuFs
    Top down Flyer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ah3XmjlhgJw
    Tetris - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4dMVFuIb8zk T

    and many more http://www.youtube.com/results ?search_query=starcraft+2+ums& amp; amp;aq=f

    * let see if these link and comment will format correctly (if not, might have to delete space between url)


    Read more: http://g4tv.com/videogamedeath match/battle/33#ixzz17o11N9zs< br />
    these endless user make content and multiplayer make great replayability for starcraft 2.

    Even EA, parent company of Bioware model ME3 with multiplayer included knowing the new gaming model require multilayer.

    Posted: December 11, 2010 4:42 AM
    girl123
  • RPG-fan

    Both sides made some good arguments. I really enjoyed both games so I'm split in the middle. But I have to strongly disagree with Nikole when she said that a game can't win GOTY because it's exclusive on a PC. When deciding what game should win game of the year, what platform the game is in shouldn't be a factor. Great gameplay and the quality of the game itself should be above all else than what system the game is made on.

    Posted: December 11, 2010 3:47 AM
    RPG-fan
  • Dynamo903

    Oh look, G4 showing favortism toward ME. Didn't see that one coming!

    And that's the exact BS why I stopped coming here. SC2 would win but G4 would fudge the numbers just to see their love child win because they're biased AHOLEZ.

    ..I..

    Posted: December 11, 2010 2:49 AM
    Dynamo903
  • Sack-Lion

    Aside from my personally biased support for ME2, I think Nikole pretty much owned that debate, her opening statements and rebuttals were lengthy and descriptive while Leah was trying to come up lame excuses and comebacks the whole time. Multiplayer isn't everything, it really just comes down to two different play styles. Mass Effect is a very personal experience while StarCraft is more of a social experience. Either way, they both do good at what they do.

    Posted: December 10, 2010 10:39 PM
    Sack-Lion
  • enigmz512

    This really isn't a fair contest since there are just so many more console gamers compared to PC gamers. Not to mention ME2 was also on PC as well. Furthermore, many more people play FPSs compared to RTSs. The number of people ME2 can reach is just so much higher. As someone who's actually played both games i can say that both games are great because they are the epitome of their respective genres. But I believe SC2 deserves the win, not only because Leah is awesome, but because of the fact that even with the significantly smaller market, SC2 has still managed to generate a following at least as large if not larger than any other game this year.

    Posted: December 10, 2010 8:56 PM
  • hanzo_magnus

    Mass Effect 2 FTW! 'nough said...

    Posted: December 10, 2010 8:17 PM

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