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You couldn't walk more than a few feet without running into a 3D-enabled TV at CES 2010. Sony was showing several demonstrations of PlayStation 3 games with 3D flipped on (Super Stardust HD was particularly impressive), while Microsoft was only showing one, an Xbox Live Arcade game called Scrap Metal. Plus, it wasn't the "new" 3D -- it was the "old" 3D. Does that say something about Microsoft's stance on the 3D revolution the tech industry was pushing at CES? I asked.
"From the technical standpoint, we are fully 3D capable. We have 3D games running today," said Microsoft's Xbox group product manager Aaron Greenberg to me at CES last week.
Greenberg conceded that it's possible Microsoft will embrace 3D...eventually. Maybe.
"As consumer interest for 3D grows, we'll grow with it," he said. "I think right now we're unsure what level of interest there is from consumers to really want a 3D experience in the living room. Many, many years from now when it becomes a reality, we absolutely can support it, we do support it today. If developers want to make more 3D games, they can."
In addition to Scrap Metal, Greenberg pointed to Avatar: The Game as another 3D-supporting game on Xbox 360. But in an unsurprising turn of events, Microsoft would rather encourage developers to look at Project Natal as a way to change the way games. He did admit the 3D works great at the movies.
"I think 3D is a great experience in the theater and I thought Avatar was fantastic," he said, "but there's a lot of challenges about 3D in the living room. I don't know about you, but when I play games or watch TV, I've got my phone, I've got all kinds of things going on. I get up, I get down, I'm looking outside at the weather and it's...I'm not in a dark theater, wearing glasses, staring at a screen. I think it's just a different environment."
Because the tech industry is pushing 3D so hard, however, Greenberg says Microsoft's technically on board. From a first-party perspective, they're going to remain on the sidelines for the time being.
"It [3D] is the hot thing at CES and we've got 3D on the show floor, so we've checked the 3D box if that's important to people," he said. "If it becomes really important and people want to do more with it, we're absolutely happy to support it."
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Bookshelf
M$ is always concerned about new technology. They wait around until something becomes popular and then dive in and try to capitalize on it. Natal anyone? Bing? Zune? Xbox? Windows? You get the idea...
RandyMercer
Well yeah 3D is a gimmick, is it a bad gimmick? Not really, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be up-and-arms about games transitioning to 3d, however if developers are able to combine 3D into a video game and they both blend in seamlessly together, would that be a horrible thing? I'm not anti-3D gaming nor am I pro 3D gaming, but you have to think "there might be something, and there might not be". It's a risk for the all industries especially the gaming industry. I'm still stuck in the middle about it all; games are already immersive is the 3D "stimulation" really needed at this. I'm just saying people are already upset about the GTA series having sex in the game, imagine that in 3d they would really hate the industry...hmmm might be kinda cool to make people mad, don't ya think?
redrings
"In addition to Scrap Metal, Greenberg pointed to Avatar: The Game as another 3D-supporting game on Xbox 360. "
What About: Invincible Tiger: The Legend of Han Tao
That has a stereoscopic 3d mode too.
David_Macphail
The glasses are not the problem, the problem is the price of theese 3D capable TV sets. Once they come down in price to what HDTV's are now, nobody (At least no sane person) will cry over having to put on uber - awesome 3D goggles.
I certainly won't be an early adopter but once the price of 3D TV's comes down i'll definely be up for 3D games/movies.
elite_hoster
MY PREdiction is xbox will be dead after march,, why do i ask you say simple microsft is dead with out developers, a cosole is empty with out the creative intuitive thoughts and abiltys developers deside, well anything is capable these days, if i stood against 100000 people and reslised 3d gaming is dead, id play on pc 5 years to the future rather less play inferior hardware.
2008 was great year and 2007 but 2009 was worst year, after march xbox will fall just like ps3 if a game was god then you would have best game on planet but time equals money and money equals poor quality soo games like alan wake, aliens vs preditor bad company arma2 for you odd gamers and shocked crysis is going to inferior consoles plus gears wars joke
lol ah simplicity equals happyness thats motto for caonsole owners
Sigil
Ironic... If you replace "3D " with "motion control"...people are just saying the same crap... and now Sony and Microsoft are getting into motion control. It's too early to tell.. Step away from the PANIC button....jeez.
nvserg
GUYS GUYS, ok how about this.... Natal with 3D glasses, that would be off the hook. picture war game, or boxing in 3D with Natal. =o) this could take off if they play the cards right
GatsuBlackSword
Not Important to me AT ALL. It's a gimmick. Don't get me wrong it's fun but I would not want to watch 2 1/2 men in 3D LOL.
Lucifer6972
I agree, no question 3D will gain steam and grow as the years go by. That's just inevitable, it is likely to happen in a decade but with the economy it is now, we don't(and when I say we, I mean poor people) don't wanna feel left out in the back and see everybody getting the hottest thing around and that's 3D. Don't make us lynch you guys like they did to the African-Americans before WW2...(true story, if people can't blame a target to blame their problems, they'll look for another plausible target. You can say in this day and age is crime, poverty, drug abuse, etc...I'm studying Psyche, talk to Dr. Drew if you want more info).
But it will take time, no offense but I don't wanna wear glasses when i watch a movie or let alone play a game. I already wear glasses and who know how I react to it. There's also health risks involve here so they gtta take that into consideration. But I think no matter what, we may NEED the glasses to watch it and experience the full effects, is impossible without glasses so there's a lot going on with the product that needs to be tweaked.
But I agree, it needs time and will take time but it will grow as long as the consumer grows as well. It is likely to happen but I don't know about you, I don't have HD TV and whenever I go to the boys house over here, I'm still astonished to how it looks like. Is just crazy!
iSpaz
no 3d please... keep 3d for movies only... dont let it creep into games...
MindCarrot
microsoft is skeptical of 3d games because sony is in the front of the line with this technology. it is the same thing with blu-ray. microsoft will not say anything about blu-ray games because they dont want to admit that they messed up when investing in hd-dvd instead of blu-ray. microsoft is opposing sony on everything because that is how they role. the console war is not over. god help our wallets. god help them all.
HausOfGaGA
"I don't know about you, but when I play games or watch TV, I've got my phone, I've got all kinds of things going on. I get up, I get down, I'm looking outside at the weather and it's...I'm not in a dark theater, wearing glasses, staring at a screen. I think it's just a different environment."
Wtf>? so he is doing everything but playing a game... and by his logic its going to be awfully hard to use natal when your doing all that crap. Just Saying.
Gdraven99
OK i am going to try and answer a couple of questions that people have been having over these 3d tv's to clear some things up.
1.Will 3d tv's require glasses and why?
Yes they will, but they are not the old anaglyph (red/blue) glasses
that people know and hate. They are new stereoscopic 3d glasses that look
similar to sunglasses (if you have been to see avatar you have used them)
These Tv's use stereoscopic 3d which involves alternating the same image
shot from 2 different angles just as your eyes would see them.
I suggest googling anaglyph and stereoscopic 3d for further info.
To sum it up it blows the old 3d and cant be done on current 60hz tv's.
2.3d tv's are here now and they only cost 300$ more than their standard
counterparts, as they are easy to implement in existing tv 120hz and up.
3.$5000? ...Maybe for a really nice one when it first comes out but you can
literally go buy one right now for about 1300, its not the best but its in
1080p at 120hz (60hz in 3d)
4."do I have to watch everything in 3d"
The answer is NO. you dont, only when you enable it will you "have to"
watch it in 3d.
To conclude I would just like to say this really isnt new technology its just
thats its now being intergrated into televisions.
I have been playing stereoscopic games on my computer for over a decade and
it didnt cost me an arm and a leg (about $50 if I recall)
So go out and get yourself one when the price comes down a bit and enjoy. If it takes off like most think it will it will just be a nice feature in all tv's(like surround sound) that some may never use, but others will enjoy having.
Natal + 3d gaming FTW Cant wait!
Ricky_K
This would be cool as long as I dont punch my T.V. in the face and break something.
Knyght
3D is great, but it's hard to go mainstream with this because who wants to put on glasses every time you turn on the TV? Some of us already have trouble finding the remote and now we have to find the glasses too lol.
You want to impress me, give me the matrix or tron technology. Forget 3D and Natal, I'm ready to be plugged into another reality!
gambitjuggalo
forget 3d im still working on getting a big enough hd tv
theantigzus
lets face it if they over flood the market with 3D crap its just not gonna be good, like Wii games developers were so quick to jump on the band wagon that the quality suffered in most cases. We dont want everything in 3D, do we want some of course as long as its well done in our movies and shows. Do we want it in our games not really but years from now when 3D tv's are in most house holds and if theres any developers that have a brilliant idea to incorporate 3D in a good way and they dont just add 3D capabilities just for the sake of doing so then sure im sure most people would love to embrace it more then. Dang perhaps something incorporating 3D and project natal so it gives u more of a feeling of total immersion, although that might take a enormous screen, well im sure microsoft will think of something
bimmy_lee01
So pretty much if you have prescription glasses you are screwed...thanks 3 D
kaos929
I would rather see matrix style mind jacking than 3D.
usemeup
Until 3D doesn't require glasses and has at least a 100 Degree viewing angle I won't waste my money. 3D in gaming should be not on the screen, but in the peripherals. Natal, Sony Wand, and the Wii are the right move for 3D, not over-priced television sets.
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