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Not many people have earned all the achievements possible from Halo 3, Halo Wars and Halo 3: ODST, as evidenced by the statistics Microsoft dug up while developing Halo Waypoint. "Significantly less" than 1% of players have unlocked all the achievements. Based on readers comments and e-mails I received, the biggest stumbling block for Halo fans is a top-tier achievement tucked away in Halo Wars, the non-Bungie developed real-time-strategy take on the Halo universe.
Specifically, several readers cited the "General" achievement as the most difficult to obtain. The "General" achievement is obtained by acquiring 2,400,000 experience points across multiplayer sessions. According to players, garnering that many points takes a long, long time.
"I am missing one single achievement in Halo Wars...the achievement for obtaining a General Rank over XBL," one reader wrote me over e-mail, echoing the feelings of several others I heard from. "So of all three games I have all but one single achievement. This won't put me into that 1%, but I should come darn close. Honestly I would have this achievement as well if the population for Halo Wars was not so small and the amount of XP needed to gain that rank so high. I am simply not a huge RTS fan, and while I enjoy Halo Wars I am a fangirl because of the FPS parts of the Halo universe. At the moment games of Halo Wars feel more like grinding than fun."
After my story was published, community manager Duncan “Aloysius” Stanley at Robot Entertainment, the studio that spun-off from the now-closed Halo Wars developer Ensemble Studios that assumed post-release Halo Ward duties, released some additional statistics to fans on the Halo Wars message boards. Not surprising, the "General" rank was listed.
"Less than half a of percent of players have the General rank on Xbox Live," said Stanley.
"So little [users] with General, yet so many threads about them...," remarked one user in response.
Some users estimated it could take hundreds of hours to unlock the "General" achievement. At that point, is such an achievement just for the hardcore or simply poorly designed?
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DudeinCA
LoL. and guess what. i have obtained enough points in Halo Wars to have double the amount required for the General Achievement. I have over 4.5 million score. Most of it was accuired while i didnt work full time. the time between graduating and getting a job, which was long thanks to the economy. but u really just got to win a lot and get a good kill ratio. thats the key.
but i havent got 100% for all the achievments because im not much of single player guy. i love online.
shoot i played AOE3 (their other rts game ES made) forever and never did play the campaign for any of the expansions and only a few missions for the original.
tmspartan
So apparently because you are not able to get one achievement because you devoted a week of playtime to a game that makes it poorly designed? Seriously achievement hunting isn't exactly the point of gaming.
Achievements are an added bonus to the gaming experience, and god forbid you miss one or else you might throw away your xbox.
Halo Wars is a great game and anyone who actually took the time to play it would realize that getting this achievement isn't so hard.
Not to mention that it still has a great community and population, but I suppose most of you are used to the 300,000 players on Halo 3. MM takes about 5 seconds when you have a good connection, and getting that 2.4 million is extremely easy when you have the basic knowledge of how to play the game.
gyroscope
I say MOD! :D
Nah, i don't cheat, but some people definitely will, to put themselves into the 0.5% that have it!
a_resonance
achievements like these suck. yes, i know that there is no requirement to finish games 100% but it just shows me that i did not do everything in the game some times.
three achievements that should not exist that do in my games
1) COD: WaW, get to prestige 10
2) GEARS of WAR: Seriously
3 BATTLEFIELD BC: beans bullets, and bandages
these are just grind achievements. there is no fun in getting them. it just takes time, of which i do not have.
oh well, not that i care, i got my ODST avatar barbie suit and waypoint monitor prop.
Plasma_Cake
Im going to get that achievment, I LOVE HALO WARS!!! SO AWESOME!!! I had it since day 2. AND ITS STILL FUN!
ProjektX13
I think that an achievement like that take huge dedication and is really for the Hardcore Halo players and not for the achievement hunters.
IcemanMX
That reminds me of the "Seriously" achievement in Gears of War. I really did try to get it and I became a lot better at multi-player because of trying to get it, but somewhere around my 2,357th kill, I just said "Fudge It!"
It took me months of playing (not consecutively, of course) to get to 2,000 kills and I need to do it another five times to get to 10,000? No thanks. I've too many things to do; work, hanging out with my friends, going to football and baseball games. Hell, I even got married at the time, so between the wedding planning, the actual wedding, the honeymoon, and the moving in together part, I didn't really have the time to kill another 7,700 or so more people online.
Life is too short to be wasting on retarded grinding achievements.
-M
schauerg
The first thing I thought of when I read this was the Killing Machine Trophy for Resistance 2. You need 10,000 kills in ranked online matches. It's really time consuming, but this is the only trophy I still need to obtain the Platinum trophy for this game. I still have about 7,000 kills to go, but I'm getting there 1 kill at a time. It's hard to spend so much time playing one game when there are so many I enjoy. I don't want to feel like I'm neglecting all the other games that are close to my heart just for 2 more trophies(even though 1 would be platinum...)
Does xbox have something similar to a platinum trophy if you get every achievement for a single game, like a bonus to your gamerscore?
Is the solution to make multiple platinum trophies for each game? One for single player, one for co op, and one for competitive. That way gamers can be recognized for what they are best at, without having to completely beat a game to death.
-pseudo-
Also, let's not forget that during the summer, all the stat tracking was somehow erased for Halo Wars. So many of those people who did spend a lot of time playing it and had experience, just lost it. Another negative point in this, is the first dlc for Halo Wars. It added more achievements, but was not worth paying for. But, even the second one I wouldn't buy. I will not buy dlc for a game I rarely play just to earn those achievements. I may be a Halo fan, but I don't care that much so called "status."
Hoss70
Achievements/Trophies are this generations baseball cards. Or Pokemon. Or any other collectable. Thing is, in the long run? They mean nothing. Nothing at all. Just that you put in more time sitting in front of a console than someone else. Congrats folks. Hope all those achievements keep you warm and safe at night.
JkRJake
If I remember right, you usually get like 2000 points a game, and in an RTS games are very long.
down311
Awesome Game ! I had a ton of fun playing both campaign and multiplayer, this was actually one Halo game where I didn't mind fighting the Flood.
JohnnyBuku
I don't care too much about achievement points, at least not enough to spend hundreds of hours grinding. Who has that kind of time?
altizar
Hardest Achievement to get? Did you have fun playing the game Achievement!!!
NotAnotherOne
haha. Halo games are always criticized for being too short...
Now one of them is being criticized for taking too long to finish.
Guess some franchises just can't win.
hoof_hearted4
this reminds me of the trohy for Resistance 2 where u need 1,000,000 points of competative and another where u need 10,000 online kills...see i rarely play competative, i just find coop so much more fun as ive already gotten everything maxed out on it and im not that good at competative so when i do play it i get maybe 3 or 4 thousand points and maybe 10 kills (depending on the mode) and it is gunna take a long freaking time to get those two trophies, if i ever get them with R3 on the way and a lot of games in between idk if ill get back to the last few trophies which are those two and beating it in arcade (and superhuman for a trophie)
Zelahn
An odd point, but at what point did achievements become less about fun and more about giving a shiny medal to the madly obsessed? Some would argue from day one, but I would in turn argue them. There's a great feeling attached to snagging an achievement you were actually trying to unlock, but there HAS to be a limit somewhere. That point when the rational mind says "the bar is just too high" or "it's just not worth it". A friend of mine has more than 100,000 achievement points, poured hours into getting them, but at least he had a point to it all which was for the purpose of writing FAQs.
2,400,000 exp, for an achievement, really? Hundreds of hours, over time, sure that'll be a nice positive point in someone's day far off, but you know that's not how it happens. It happens when someone says "I belong in that 31337 1%". It's insane, not worth it (to me at least) and best of luck to those who want that 1% chip, I'm sure your respective families will either miss you or loathe your stench as you probably will forgo showers for a while.
DreamingDarklyRobin
Pac-Man FTW
NAZAR3NE
@Not_Fat, jdawgghatesyou and leyke
I guess some people just don't have anything better to do, get a life, your giving PS3 owners a bad rep.Geez!
FuzzyHammer ShowHide(2 Replies)
Also, CoD: MW, ftw
Halo sucks, any FPS is better as the ppl above will tell you.
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