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Welcome to "Morning Hangover" -- an excellent way to start your day with the crew at TheFeed...no matter what you're recovering from. Every morning you'll hear musings from two of TheFeed's editors and have the chance to share your thoughts on what's going on in the gaming world. So buckle up, enjoy the last episode of TheFeed Nightcap, and keep reading!
Raymond Padilla: Yesterday, I got into an interesting conversation about Microsoft Points in the comments section of this story. As a gaming enthusiast, it never bothered me that I had to purchase points in increments of 500 ($6.25). Even if I had to buy more than I needed at any given time, I knew that they'd be used eventually. I can see how this might be a problem for casual gamers that make infrequent Xbox Live purchases, but I was surprised that readers of TheFeed -- presumably also enthusiast gamers -- have a huge problem with this. So in order to check myself and learn more about this "issue", I wanted to ask you if you have a problem with the way Microsoft sells its Points. Is it a rip-off that you can't buy exactly what you need? Am I dismissing it because I don't treat MS Points as real money (probably)?
Patrick Klepek: Yesterday, Hideo Kojima revealed he's been working on Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker because he's waiting for Kojima Productions to finish polishing up the next iteration of its internal engine technology and tools for console games. His next project is supposed to be a brand-new IP, but he also hinted that he'll be returning to something gamers have been demanding. The possibilities are pretty much endless there. Snatcher? Policenauts? Zone of the Enders? Sign me up for the last one, please. But, what about you guys?
TheFeed gang wants your thoughts on gaming, tech, the real reason Microsoft hasn't announced a price cut, and more. Let everyone know what you're thinking and chat it up with your fellow readers. Leave comments on anything and everything that's on your (gaming/tech/nerd) mind! The reader with the best comment will win some blood sausage from Cologne.
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MarktheNuke
I think that the ms points should have a value for 1 point so you can just buy as many as you need
truecool
Microsoft was actually thinking. Considet that "Microsoft Points" are used regardless your geographic location. Everything costs the same number of points whether you're in Germany, United States or Japan. The currency conversion occurrs at purchase of points. I moved to Denmark from United States two months ago, but my MSPoints balance didn't have to be converted. Now I just purchase MSPoints in Euros instead of dollars.
Jack_firestorm
Simple solution would be to make you purchase the card with say 500 points on it then if you want more go to say game stop and load as much as you want to pay for. It's pretty much the same thing as a Wal-Mart gift card. Simple, easy, to simple and to easy for Microsoft to ever implement. I'm sure they have some way that makes it so that if you don't use points then they are saving money.
Fiddytree
MS points are a complete joke, and I can never get the conversions down so I have to spend 10 minutes to find out how much I am overspending. I don't understand why 100 can't just be 1 dollar. It would make everyone's life infinity times easier
tarbis
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Memu
Another thing is that when I purchased 1000 points it says "$12.50 plus tax". It neglects to tell you how much the tax is. If it actually does charge tax for for points you haven't used to purchase any item, you are essentially paying a tax for nothing!
Memu
After hearing all the pleasant things about Shadow Complex I decided to try it. So I got the 360 out of the closet and plugged it into Live for the first time. Overall it was a slick and pleasant experience. Then I click on the button to purchase SC and it says I need 1200 points. So I click again and it takes me to a page to buy points IN 500 PT INCREMENTS ONLY. I was pissed. It is MS marketing bull all over again. They know that people are more likely to buy some other junk if they have to leave points in their acct. I seriously don't like being manipulated by big corporations like I am some consumer moron. I hate you MS for exactly this kind of lock-in crap. Because I hate you I will only purchase from you when I HAVE to, and then get the absolute best deal I can. Whenever possible I will go to your competitor. I will badmouth you whenever I can. Treat me with some respect and I will do the same. Until then, you suck MS.
Xanlythe
Seem to always be talking about MS Points with friends, and have heard all kides of reasons for and against. for me personally I like buying the points especially when it comes to my son. Once every few months I pay the 62.50 for 5000 points and tell him to use the wisely. Honestly I thin he does a better job than I do managing his points, but I like that he can manage his point account and teach him the value of things before he get's access to a checking account.
When on demand games came out witht eh latest realease and you stopped seeing the points value and just saw the 19.99 I think it hit home a little bit more about what the true cost of DLC which has been my only gripe with the points is not easily beng able to tell what teh real value of a game is in dollars and cents.
Either way I will continue to buy DLC from Xbox Live points or otherwaise. My only wish is that the pricing was a bit more resonable especially for the avatar clothes that just came out.
thatboytitz
i actually do have a problem with the xbox live money system
but thats just me with gift cards... i hate having my money limited to only one source
you'll just have extra money left over that you can't spend and it sucks especially when you dont use that market a lot
i like seeing 14.99 and only having to pay 14.99
blasphemous
to you guys saying that MS points is okay, lets put it this way.
You walk into the gameshop and have a hundred dollar bill in your pocket. You decide to get the new $60 dollar game(we will leave taxes out of this since they vary state to state). You go the cashier and the cashier says "here is your game and here is some store credit for the $40" Would you be happy about that? Could you not use that $40 for something else in another store?
NioShobu
I don't entirely mind the whole MS Points system, it's just having to pay more that can be an issue. I would just love to be able to spend money on something without having to convert it to points (luckily, PSN has that over LIVE) but it's not too much of a bother. I know I'll spend the extra points in the future.
banodyne
You know why I prefer the points scenario? Retail stores will occasionally have sales on them. So it's like getting a big discount. Sony can't do that with their cards because they're assigned a dollar value.
Thundercracker
ok i lied
well stick with the bill and ted here
in bogus journey who was the host of the talent show?
Wozman23
The point system is a bit shady. I don't own a 360, but i wouldn't mind since i do spend a lot on DLC.
Due to my crazy Rock Band habits and support for most DLC, i just put $50 on my PSN account, and when its gone, i put $50 more and wait for it to disappear. If I was purchasing only a few things, or even just one thing, I'd be pretty mad if i couldn't pay the exact amount.
As enthusiastic gamers, its easy to overlook the problem. But if you're MS, how can you justify your incremental point system without looking like your attempting to manipulate or deceive the consumer? I don't think there is a valid argument. Someone prove me wrong, because i honestly can't think of one.
N8R
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Warheart1188
I would prefer that if we had to use points, then we should be able to buy the exact number we want. I hardly buy anything off XBL and when I do it's always map packs and game add-ons. I don't see why I have to pay $12.50 for 1000 pts when I only need 800 to buy the Halo 3 Mythic Map pack. What the hell is the leftover 200 points going to get me? Gamerpics?? No, sir. Don't need that. If they charge actual money for Games on Demand, why can't they price everything else that's coming out? Other than that, Xbox Live is nearly perfect.
Beelzebeau
I would prefer to buy the exact ammount of points I need, but we all know it can't be so. Yes, this sucks for us consumers...but it is a brilliant marketing stragedy for Microsoft.(like they need more money)They always keep you coming back for more...just trying to nickel and dime us. But with that said...WHY MAKE US PAY FOR AVITAR CLOTHING!?! Thats low down Microsoft...low down.
Bookshelf
Dude... wait.. what?
ATB25
I agree that the MS point system for XBL is messed up. Which is why I just use the Zune site to buy my points. They're in the right increments for everything, not the crazy $6.25 for 500.
LoveLifeMusic
So you guys hate the fact that there are left over points and you can't ignore it, hmmmm why not act like human beings and buy what you need and ignore the points until they gather up and buy something else. Like shows, INdie games, movies rentals, Avatar clothing, themes, pics, DLC, Ect.......
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