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For the sake of full disclosure, you should know that I was a huge fan of Take Two Interactive’s ESPN NFL Football and ESPN NFL 2K5. I just found them so much more enjoyable and fluid than the Madden games Electronic Arts was churning out at that time, and I honestly couldn’t wait to see where the franchise would go in the future. Sadly, thanks to EA’s strong arming (i.e. EA securing NFL exclusivity rights), the 2K series died on the vine. So with the competition out of the way, EA was then able to basically turn the Madden franchise into a money printing operation. However, according to a new lawsuit it seems that EA might have some ‘splaining ta do concerning just how much money it’s beloved franchise has taken in over the past few years.
As GamePolitics reports, a University of Michigan economics professor has brought suit against the publishing giant, claiming that EA has been able to overcharge consumers on the price of Madden games to the tune of between $701 million and $926 million. Dr. Jeffrey MacKie-Mason came to this conclusion by calculating the difference between what EA was charging for Madden while 2K’s football games were on store shelves and what it charged after Madden secured NFL exclusivity rights.
Gamers surely remember that NFL 2K5 was released for the ridiculously low price of $19.99, which caused EA to lower the price of Madden NFL 2005 from $49.95 to $29.95. Once the NFL 2K franchise was no more, Madden games went back to their original price, eventually jumping to $59.95 for the most current iterations. Of course, there are all sorts of other factors like the general price jump that occurs when a new console generation starts, and the rising costs of game budgets (just to name two) that need to be factored in before any logical and lawful conclusion can be drawn with regards to the alleged overcharging.
In fact, a similar suit could just as easily be brought against Take Two for raising the price of its Major League Baseball 2K franchise from $20 to $60 once it secured exclusivity rights for Major League Baseball, forcing the demise of EA’s vastly more enjoyable MVP Baseball series (my favorite baseball franchise ever, before MLB '09: The Show came along). The major difference being there are competitors in the baseball game market, whereas Madden doesn’t have any. Still, it shows how tenuous this suit appears to be, and why the prosecution certainly has an uphill battle ahead of them.
Not surprisingly, EA feels the case is basically a joke, saying, in its discovery filing (oddly enough where opinions about a case aren't normally submitted):
“EA respectfully submits that Dr. MacKie-Mason's analysis is fundamentally flawed on multiple levels. Indeed, Dr. MacKie-Mason's estimated magnitude of damages is nothing more than pure fiction - it has no basis in fact or law...”
Between this, and EA’s other class action lawsuit, it seems the next few months should be interesting ones for gaming law junkies. On that note: what’s your take on the lawsuit?
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jeessse
The lawsuit could be good because maybe EA/Madden supporters will wake up and begin to question EAs tactics, from ALL angles. That being said, the lawsuit is also a joke, a business can charge whatever they want for their product.
I DO NOT support EA, I have not purchased or rented ANY product from EA since Woods 01. Madden is awful, I preferred the realistic angle of 2K5, not the arcade steroid sized Madden. With no competition, there is no improvement. This is where Madden lovers are screwed, the joke is on them, not 2K5ers. I have moved on and accepted it, and now with no competition EA puts out a product that gets worse and worse every year .. purchased by you .. enjoy.
ssh00
Stupidest thing I've ever read in while. First of all, we live in a capitalistic society and prices for non-essential goods/services are determined by a free market. Overcharging for a product? How about Windows, Blackberrys, IPhones, Cell Phones (anything else in high demand)? Secondly, this professor's "examples" by which he gathered his numbers, are from a exceptional season during a price war and are simply invalid (there were reports that TTWO basically were selling those copies at ~cost or less...check out there stock price during that time to see what the market thought about that pricing strategy). If he wanted his case study to be taken seriously, he would have taken an inflation adjusted average of some kind to determine prices. Unbelievable that any respectable journalist/media outlet would even give this story the light of day. BTW, you EA haters out there should learn to spell E C O N O M I C S. lol
woopa2121
Wow so i just got off for 20 to 30 bucks for most of the madden games i just bought. WTF EA!
woopa2121
Wow so i just got ripped off by 20 to 30 bucks for every friigin madden game i just bought. WTF EA.
titanrage83
EA sucks and so does there crap server, I cant even play madden 09 online because it wont download the roster update, so No im not buying anything from these money whores, they were scared of what 2K sports was soing to there francise and decided to buy them out. Never again am i paying 60 dollars for a roster update, i might buy it used at gamestop a week later after everyone returns the game because it sucks. so as far as them getting sued, more power to take two
koolboricua
wow anyone will sue just for the most hilarious thing wit means of earning some extra cash. i kno we r goin thru a recession but this professor cant be so broke that he needs a dum lawsui to gain some extra income. But ill tell u tat what he is goin to get is a slap on the face
BryanHelp
This is why I don't buy any EA games except Madden... lol >_> When Madden first went next gen, it was a joke i thought. Last Years madden finally did some things right,(it still has lots to go) but I wish this NFL rights deal would vanish. Becuz they are completely lazy on Making Madden games.
nowhere2hide139
i dont even like sports games. id rather just play the sport
down311
@ PoundOfFlesh - Ya, copying code over and over and adding a gimick and some polish here and there really increases the costs.
Madden should be half the price. Most $60 dollar games take 2 to 3 years to get out. We get a re-hash of the same crap every year. Good for the lawyer, Madden needs to go down.
PoundOfFlesh
First of all, there is nothing preventing another company from developing a football game. Just because EA has NFL rights, doesn't make it a monopoly. They can also easily argue the cost of the game went up based on the expense of the NFL franchise rights.
Even though he may be an Econ professor, it seems he is also playing loose with the available info to make his point. Anyone whose taken a college Econ class can probably attest that just because they are professors, doesn't mean they have their own biases/logic flaws. We all do. Does it suck we have to pay $60 for a game. Yup. Is EA the epitome of good/ethical business practices? Unlikely. But again it looks like another chance for a tort lawyer to make a name for himself with a frivolous lawsuit.
komradkyle
His calculations would never fly in court but I believe there should be some antitrust laws going on for this
Chupacabras_X
There is a precedent for this, maybe it will be a class action, about how they are charging anti-trust laws for the I-Phone's exclusive deal with AT&T, with the claim that by shutting out all 3rd party mobile providers, they are denying the consumer the ability to go elsewhere for service.
There could be a precedent thus
gameweasel
The only merit I can see on the lawsuit, is that once they drove NFL 2k out of business, creating a monopoly, EA raised the price of the game. So, maybe driving out the competition, and then raising prices breaks some kind of antitrust law.
MrAdaptability
Long live NFL Blitz 2000.... beats Madden by a mile. (and then some.)
poker909
Bogus claim. Legally EA can charge anything they want. If they wanted to charge $150 they could, but the games are released at the standard retail price just like any other title.
Also, just to clarify (and I don't even play madden or any sports title so I am completely un biased, if anything I'm biased against EA), I know as fact that when EA got exclusive rights to the NFL, they were competing with other companies also trying to buy exclusive rights which the NFL was obviously trying to sell. One of the other companies bidding was Disney, so I think EA was a much better fit.
austin43
ummm@ tmidi, which madden game runs at 20fps? the 360 madden 08 and 09 runs at 60fps, and the ps3 version runs at 30fps, both of which are perfectly playable so i don't think that is the problem with this.
Otherwise,
I believe they should be able to charge what ever they want, that is the way capitalism works. If people think it's too much, they will stop buying it, and EA will re-think their strategy. But yes in another sense, stomping out the competition and creating monopolies is illegal, and should be enforced as so. Competition means the consumer wins, and i'm a consumer and i like winning.
Greibach
Yeah, I think the real lawsuit should be an anti-trust lawsuit or something. But to claim that an entertainment medium is more expensive than it's worth is laughable. Deal with it, don't buy it. Its like saying that you think OLED TVs are too much, so you sue because they are gouging you.... suck it up and don't buy it. But if they have a monopoly, then that is what is against the law. What a joke.
Tmidiman
I have to laugh at all the people that paid full pring for a game that runs at 20 FPS and is nothing more than a players names upgrage.
Drop_Six
EA respectfully submits that Dr. MacKie-Mason's analysis is fundamentally flawed on multiple levels. Indeed, Dr. MacKie-Mason's estimated magnitude of damages is nothing more than pure fiction - it has no basis in fact or law
This makes me laugh. The guy who came up with this suit is an ECONIMICS PROFESSOR, they get paid to not only calculate, re-calculate, and calculate the numbers again, but they also teach this. Not to mention the probably have supply and demand stuff to go along with how the demand for Madden went up since they MONOPOLIZED (I thought monopolies were illegal in this country) the football license. But whatever, I don't play these games because I'm not dumb enough to buy the same game every year for a roster change and one or 2 lame features.
tokz_21
I actually stuck it to last year's Madden. I bought the spanish only version. Thank God, I can read spanish. The commentary is kind eh but it's Spanish what do you expect. It was almost the same as the regular Madden 09 but half the price. If the specs are the same again, you can bet I will be buying El Madden-O 2010.
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