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Expert: 'Killzone 2's Graphics Are "Undisputed Winner", Have Some Flaws

Posted by Brian Leahy - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:32 AM

Digital Foundry, a company that makes video capture hardware, has had their experts look at the graphics in the Killzone 2 multiplayer beta and has declared them an "undisputed winner."

Although they point to some slowdowns in busy firefights, the "overall impact [of framerate drops] is limited though; it’s not a gamebreaker, in most cases the game is very smooth indeed."

Killzone 2 Direct-Feed Gameplay

"Graphically, Killzone 2 is an undisputed winner. Initially it does look rather blurry. Yes, this is in part down to the quincunx anti-aliasing, but it’s mostly due to the motion blur. I’m not a fan of blurring in video games, but the entire range of techniques used in Killzone 2 combines to create a look and feel that is entirely its own, deeply immersive, and - in the heat of battle - brutal, visceral and quite unlike any other game."

This certainly mirrors our experiences with the game as it is definitely one of the finest looking titles in development.

"The motion blur, the post-processing, the lighting, the shadows, the animation of your player’s movements… all of it is geared towards a closer emulation of reality. That, combined with the absolutely brutal action, bodes well for the final game and I have really high hopes for the single-player campaign where the full power of this engine can really be unleashed."

It remains to be seen if the gameplay will catch everyone as the graphics undoubtedly will, but great graphics can only help sell a game.

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Comment(s)

Posted by magopus6 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:41 AM

awesome!

Posted by MRC_TechOne - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:43 AM

halo 1 looks better than this game lol

Posted by invalid - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:48 AM

@MRC_TechOne

I heard rumours that Xbox 720 MIGHT be able to handle MGS1... MAYBE!

Posted by Captainjack8228 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:50 AM

wow. the graphics do look pretty damn good.

Posted by Original67 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:51 AM

awww, fanboys already! go post in the sesslers soapbox thread. good graphics though!

Posted by invalid - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:51 AM

@MRC_TechOne

I heard rumours that Xbox 720 MIGHT be able to handle MGS1... MAYBE!

Posted by collinE - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:54 AM

I heard rumors that fanboys' comments MIGHT be lame... MAYBE!

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:54 AM

This game looks sweet, glad they are taking their time to get it rite.

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:56 AM

well graphics is what pretty much sold gears of war so i don't see why not. /no flame indended, just being honest.

we will see if killzone 2 can pull its own weight.

Posted by Stratice - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:57 AM

Looks like fun. Graphics look better than most PC games. Why hasn't playstation been doing this all along?

Posted by ac13bx - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:57 AM

looks good, i need to see more

Posted by Hife - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:58 AM

Thank god there are experts around to tell us which games have good graphics.

Posted by invalid - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:59 AM

@MRC_TechOne

I heard rumours that Xbox 720 MIGHT be able to handle MGS1... MAYBE!

Posted by random_luigi07 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:00 PM

graphics are good, lets just hope they learned their lesson from the 1st killzone (it sucked)

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:02 PM

@random_luigi07
come on now, killzone didn't suck, it just had some framerate issues, awkward controls and some awkward aiming... but thats about it. =)

Posted by kyle2dotcom - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:09 PM

This game definitely has the best graphics thus far in a video game. Honestly I don't think fanboys can honestly say these graphics suck. The question is will the game play be as good as other FPS titles like Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4.

We'll find out next year.

Posted by SynicVance - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:11 PM

This game will be the reason I buy a PS3. Since E3 when they first showed this game I was blown away. Cover system, awesome feel to the weapons (haven't felt them of course but they just recoil and react realistically), and the graphics put every game to shame. The framerates were a noticeable downer, but I'm going to assume that will be worked out by release.

Posted by RedRingOfDeath (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:13 PM

You heard em boys, the undisputed winner. Move over Gears there's a new sheriff in town. The graphics can only be done on mighty and powerful PS3.

Posted by collinE - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:17 PM

crazy to think that the video was pre-alpha. All polished up, I think it'll be great. They'd be idiots not to learn they're lesson after Killzone1's biggest flaw was framerate.

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:17 PM

RROD, i think it would be in your best intrest to not say anything about this game until it actually comes out and you have played it.

Posted by SpookyPirate - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:22 PM

the graphics look good but only marginally better than mirrors edge or resistance. nothing to get really exited about. it's still not as good as the video that they showed of the game when the ps3 first came out.

Posted by darkmanXL - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:27 PM

I think lost in all this talk about graphics is gameplay.. Gears 1 & 2 look good yea but they play great, are they perfect no, but everything feels right.. Diving into cover, shooting etc.. Also look at MSG4 yea its 1 of the best looking games to date but it plays well, redefines stealth games.. But there is room for improvement.. I hope they spend as much time refining Killzone 2's gamplay as the graphics, because if not I wont buy a game just because it's pretty..

Posted by AdamBomb89 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:31 PM

@invalid

you tripple posted haha

it looks good, but will it play well, graphics don't make a game

Posted by DamienHell - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:31 PM

Undisputed winner vs what?

Posted by galvan - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:31 PM

RedRingOfDeath your an idiot

gears of war 2 sales will tower over killzone 2 because its a fact there is more 360 than ps3 out there....no lie and you dont live in african so dont be in danile....rofl

new sheriff????? i didnt know games could be sherrif's...rofl

get real we will se how it does.....

framrates when they get slow i hate that $$$$$$$nit....makes me feel like im on lsd....lol


and rrod dont make all kind of remarks like you are noe when you havent even played...it

like times before you cant be trusted with the bull that comes out of your mouth.....witch you make your self sound like if your telling the truth.....but in reallity your not just yalkin

nonsence....rofl

Posted by Captainjack8228 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:34 PM

@Bookshelf
honesty appreciated and agreed with. personally, i thought Killzone 1 was one of the best looking games on the PS2, hands down. i just hope the wait is worth it, cause we've all been waiting for this game for a looong time.

Posted by DamienHell - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:35 PM

invalid - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:51 AM
@MRC_TechOne

I heard rumours that Xbox 720 MIGHT be able to handle MGS1... MAYBE!


Nice triple post dumbass. Now try to think before you type, I know its hard for you fanboys, but the original xbox could handle MGS1, the 360 could easily handle MGS1, I don't see why we would have to wait for the 3rd xbox for it.

Posted by UnJaked - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:46 PM

Looks cool reminds me of EA's BLACK on Xbox and PS2.

Posted by bapesta - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:48 PM

wow, this game could be mistaken for real life.
anyways wats with all the stupid fanboy post. automaticaly u see MRC_techone trying to call this game bad looking after an EXPERT with no bas at all said this is thew best looking game to date and its not even been completed yet. pathetic he needs to try to make ps3 games sound bad so he can convince himself aving an xbox was the rright choice

Posted by adonaisaves - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:52 PM

Hmmm.. same grey coloring to everything, slow gameplay, low-quality bad voice-acting/screaming, low energy chore work. Same walk-forward-to-next-industria l-ministructure-and-spawn-four -same-guys-that-need-be-shot-t hen-repeat (which, I'll agree, is like other shooters, but the trick is to make it not SEEM like this is the case!!!). Pure blah. That's what killed KZ1, plus the other aforementioned items. Ever level linear and the same, same colors, same enemies, same strategy. Biggest PS2 disappointment. Plus, this looks pretty this-gen average. Besides, it's not so much about graphics anymore, it's about content and gameplay. Both 360/PS3 are about at their limits without hardly any variance between them (I have both, no need to involve me in flaming), and this looks very normal.

Oh, and did yYou see at the end of the video, you shoot the guy from the side, and he comes flying TOWARDS you and ends up on the wall behind you?!? That's the 'new sheriff in town'? Weak.

Posted by Goatslayer72 (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:53 PM

Damn imunna pick this 1 up, I hope this trend continues, titles one-upping each other and utilizing the blu-ray software/ps3 hardware. R2 looked f-ing GOOD, and if this one pushes that further, just imagine whats out in 2 years time...hopefully FFXIII-oooooooooh dang

Posted by pcpwnsconsoles - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:54 PM

fps are a joke on consoles, pc is still the king of fps, no matter what you console kiddies say

Posted by uptowngfx - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:56 PM

bought killzone one and it was a disappointment... may be fun to try k2 but its definitely no gears or R2 sorry.

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:56 PM

I have been in on the Killzone 2 beta for the last couple of weeks now, and trust me as someone that's played it, THE GRAPHICS ARE UNREAL.

The gameplay is also great; it's really fun hardcore shooter and the online play has a cool rank and reward system.

I think this game has all the makings of being a smash hit for Sony.

Posted by LUCKYXS7LEVEN - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:59 PM

this game is going to be great sense it only took 4 YEARS in the making , not like other games that are rushed out into the market.
@PC
how's your cyber wife doing?

Posted by Zombie4Hire - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:07 PM

Umm Far Cry 2 has just as good graphics, but that game was a letdown. Hopefully this game is good becasue I have decided to get a PS3.

Posted by novs99 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:10 PM

I have one question do you have to use the six axis alot. I thought I saw multiple things that needed it. And that would be a reason for me not to get this game. The six axis has been a major fail for the ps 3 in my opinion. Any game that uses it becomes hurt by it. Never works the way you want it.

Posted by JTHMROCKS - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:12 PM

Impressive looking, hopefully it plays better than the first one.

Posted by RedRingOfDeath (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:14 PM

February can't get here soon enough and then God of War 3 in March and then InFamous in May. Oh, man that's a lot of great exclusives in the early part of 09. The Xbots will have to watch Netflix movies next year.

Posted by mpgumby - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:17 PM

Wow, I'm impressed. This game looks great and is not the finished product. I'm not going to go out and buy a PS3 to play it, but if my friend gets it I'll play it.

Posted by Sandrock323 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:19 PM

Lets see here. The walls are flat and two-dimensional. The lighting only affects the brightness of the entire character. The AI only react to being shot if it kills them. The animations are jumpy and not smooth in spots. But hey, at lest the lighting effects your weapon.

Posted by SkinnyJr - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:20 PM

I cant wait. Ive had it preordered for almost 6 months. Im crossing my fingers for a collectors edition.

Posted by RedRingOfDeath (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:25 PM

Haha, it's funny how the EXPERT said this is the best graphics that he's ever seen and the Xbots come here and try to say the graphics are bad. If you want to talk about bad graphics then go to the Left 4 Dead topic.

Posted by pcpwnsconsoles - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:28 PM

redringofdeath

the graphics in killzone2 dont even compare to crysis or farcry 2

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:31 PM

@novs99

Did you ever play Heavenly Sword? The sixxaxis controlled after touch arrow-shooting and object-throwing was freakin' great.

Sixxaxis is awesome when done right.

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:32 PM

@pcpwnsconsoles
dude, farcry 2 looks like sh%t on the pc ok? i'd say the graphics of farcry 2 are comparable to Soldier of Fortune 3.

Posted by Gundam220 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:32 PM

How is two exclusive turn into a lot?

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:33 PM

@pcpwnsconsoles

FYI - IGN.com gave Killzone 2 the "best graphics award" at E3 2008, selecting it over Gears 2, Far Cry 2, etc, etc.

Posted by Zombie4Hire - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:34 PM

Oh and good graphics doesn't mean a better game. If that was true Far Cry 2 would be game of the year.

Posted by blakseed - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:36 PM

Did anyone get into the beta?

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:37 PM

@ blakseed

I'm in the beta. It's freakin' sick, and yes, the graphics are truly jaw-dropping.

All these little haters on here are crackin' me up, they don't know sh$%QW

Posted by Tman88 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:41 PM

Graphics look great.

Posted by Sandrock323 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:45 PM

I guess if I wasted my money on a PS3 too, I would think the graphics were good too.

Posted by RedRingOfDeath (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:46 PM

@mikemill

You lucky dog, tell me more about it.

Posted by pcpwnsconsoles - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:48 PM

@mikemill

you dont know sh&% playing and fps on a console, play one on the pc to experience a real mans fps experience not this watered down console kiddies experience

@bookshelf

farcry2 craps all over killzone2 you must be blind

Posted by hightall - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:53 PM

Posted by bapesta - Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:48 PM
wow, this game could be mistaken for real life.
anyways wats with all the stupid fanboy post. automaticaly u see MRC_techone trying to call this game bad looking after an EXPERT with no bas at all said this is thew best looking game to date and its not even been completed yet. pathetic he needs to try to make ps3 games sound bad so he can convince himself aving an xbox was the rright choice

watch people will be complaining about the game etc. Hillary clinton

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:55 PM

@pcpwnsconsoles

Sorry bro, I don't have video game convos with elitist PC geeks. Move out of your Mom's basement first...

I find it hilarious that IGN gives KZ 2 the E3 best graphics award, and this expert G4 is quoting is also praising the graphics, and yet these fanboys somehow know something the experts don't??? LMFAO

Fanboys (including PC fanboys) - please shut the hell up and just give credit where credit is freaking due.

Posted by hightall - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:57 PM

The beta was awesome and i own a 360 and pd3 and a wii this will be a good game but i just hope the campaign is good but besides that it's a amazing game or i guess beta it might be worth getting a ps3 but only if you are rich because paying 300 dollars for a system and only for 1 game isn't worth it but great game

Posted by Hallowethe - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:01 PM

What are they "experts" at? Lol, "experts say this game has the best graphics EVAR"...yeah, that made me laugh. How are you an expert at telling whether the graphics are the best? That's a matter of opinion, and the company makes it seem like it's something you can research...

I have never seen gameplay from this game, and I must say, it looks pre-rendered. That's how good it looks, like Gears of War or other games with increadible graphics. But I don't think anyone needs to have "experts" tell them whats the best graphics in a game. Sounds to me this Digital Foundry company just wants to fuel the flame wars, nothing more.

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:03 PM

@ RROD

The beta is sick. I think they are way ahead of schedule, because I have not experienced any technical issues yet. No lag, no framerate hitching, nothing.

The graphics are really, really awesome. I think it's the best looking FPS a console has ever had.

As far as gameplay, It's a great hardcore shooter, period.

A little thing I love that is really fine-tuned is the camera movement when you're moving around; the camera has realistic bobbing around and such to the movement gives a great "body movement" feel and really feels like there's some heft to your movement, it doesn't just feel like a camera with a gun hanging off the end of it. A small, but impressive detail.

Posted by Sandrock323 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:05 PM

I'll give credit that most EXPERTs will say what ever people pay them to say. Secondly what experts could a capturecard company actually have? If we were talking about experts from Intel or Nvidia, then I could give them credit because they actually deal with graphics. This game is a well polished game (which it should be considering how long it has been in development) and nothing more.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:06 PM

I'm not in the beta, but this, Heavy Rain and God of War 3 are all hugely anticipated games for the Playstation 3.

RROD: you do know that the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 have the same size GPUs at 512 MB, right?

Posted by JDarkley - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:07 PM

I'm so sick of games touting blah-blah graphical horsepower. Who cares? In a few years something will come along and top this game and then it won't matter. Graphics don't make good gameplay. If Killzone 2 plays anything like Killzone 1, then it could look like the whole damn Louvre for all I care, I'd still stick with Resistance.

Assuming that I had a PS3, of course. Not bashing the PS3 or anything, I just don't have one. But If I did I'd stick with Resistance.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:07 PM

oh... and the Playstation 3's GPU is 50 MHz faster. oooo... really something to get wet about.

Jesus, fanboys these days.

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:07 PM

@pcpwnsconsoles
uh, no bro, my little 8800 and quadcore run that game at well over 60fps on all highs. and ill say it again, the graphics are BLAND and BORING

Posted by deleted_89852D5C-B766-4A6F-BFFE-930CEB21CA09 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:11 PM

I don't know about you guys but a slightly slower framerate is actually better for me. It gives me that "feel" like in a real movie.
For example like that conflict: denied ops game (horrible) the framerate was high but it feels sort of "fake" when players move too naturally.
Anyways thats my opinion and dont talk sht.
Also the graphics are better than gears 2 and even resistance 2 (favorite game thus far).

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:11 PM

@TheAuracle
you don't know what your talking about, gpu size? and clock speed cannot be compared for performance. if i'm not wrong, the 360 gpu does have an edge despite the ps3's being 50mhz faster clock.

and also, they are made by two completely different companies. ATI and Nvidia.

Posted by mikemill - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:13 PM

@ TheAuracle

That's flat out false information dude. here's the facts -

* PS3 GPU is 550 MHz to the 360's 500 MHz.

* PS3 also has a larger memory bandwith at 22.4 GBps to 360's 21.6 GBps (nearly a full gig per second more info can be transferred for PS3).

Here's some links to see this isn't just my info -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Ps3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Xbox_360

The 360 is a good console that has some great games (I own both) but I think it's pretty clear that the PS3 is the most advanced console hardware out there.

Posted by Get_Over_CoD4 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:15 PM

why do fanboys ruin evrything i hate them soooo much get over youself

Posted by drcocoapuff - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:22 PM

Ridiculous.

Posted by RedRingOfDeath (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:22 PM

@mikemill

Thanks bro.

Posted by Sandrock323 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:36 PM

mikemill said:
* PS3 also has a larger memory bandwith at 22.4 GBps to 360's 21.6 GBps (nearly a full gig per second more info can be transferred for PS3).

OMG thats like a hole 1.037037 times better than the 360. (can you feel the sarcasm yet)

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:38 PM

@pcpwnsconsoles, sorry I have to agree with bookshelf on this one, FarCry2 looks ok not anything to brag about, and the gameplay completely sucks

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:43 PM

@Sandrock323, thats just the gpu, trust me you dont want to know about the rest of it.

Posted by Sandrock323 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:46 PM

Anyone else notice in the picture of the tank, that the tank is sitting half way in a shadow without the shadow casting any effect what so ever on the tank?

Posted by RedRingOfDeath (BANNED) - Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:55 PM

Wow, we have some really jealous Xbots in here don't we. There is nothing he can say to down play the awesome graphics in Killzone 2 though. Nice try.

Posted by dantekratos300 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:03 PM

Eh, that's right, only the PS3 can handle those graphics, that's why I always said that the PS3 was the most powerful consoles but fanboys never agreed

Posted by LoveLifeMusic - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:05 PM

I like the graphics but isn't there too many people ripping off call of duty already

Posted by dantekratos300 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:06 PM

And for those of your who said that Killzone 2 will be a fail and the story and gameplay will be lame, that's bullsh#%^t, killzone 2 will kick ass

Posted by falcon74d - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:07 PM

I heard that of the 8 SPE(Synergistic Processing Elements) that pretty much make up the Cell Processor, that Killzone 2 will only need to use 4 of 6 provided to run on PS3. Technically Developers have access to 7 of the 8 with the one always being in reserve for an OS to run, the other is of course to run the system XrossMedia/pictures/videos/bro wers. If this is true and what sounds like it is true, the PS3 and developers have a long way to go before we really see the power of the cell what it can do.

Posted by dantekratos300 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:15 PM

The graphics don't look like anything your guys already saw. Eh, just go and watch some of the gameplay at Gametrailers.com and your guys will see what I'm talking about,and it plays well too, better than many other shooter

Posted by dantekratos300 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:16 PM

And fanboys Sessler already told your to get a life so stop with the Bulls#%^t already, damn it

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:29 PM

@Mikemill

here's what you said:

'PS3 GPU is 550 MHz to the 360's 500 MHz.'

here's what I said:

'and the Playstation 3's GPU is 50 MHz faster.'

So the next question here is: why did you repeat what I JUST said?

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:35 PM

and let's get something clear here... RRoD said that these graphics (which are awesome, by the way, and gives me hope that Killzone 2 will be exciting once I've gotten it for my PS3) are only capable on the PS3.

My earlier comments were blatantly facetious but, clearly, mikemill, you missed that. That was meant to say that while the GPU and read/write bandwidth is faster on the PS3, it is MARGINAL. After you just read and posted what I've always known and researched for a BS term paper, why would you assume that what I said is false when I was absolutely right?

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:49 PM

@bookshelf

I'm sorry I didn't say the full term. Here... let me spell it out for you so that I can redeem myself to the Sony fanboy camp and show you that I am perfectly computer specification literate.

GPU Size, for me, is short for it's memory pool AND the nanometer size the GPU was built on. For example, NVIDIA's RSX has two memory pools, a 256 MB XDR memory pool and a 256 MB GDDR3 video memory pool. The RSX can pull memory from the XDR pool, which essentially makes it a 512 MB card. The Xenos has a dedicated 512 MB memory pool plus 10 MB of eDRAM (embedded RAM). The RSX is built on a 90nm platform; the Xenos is on a 65nm platform.

So all in all, they are essentially the same card, less a couple of marginal and physical differences, rendering RRoD's comments reeking of that familiar fanboy stench and this argument perfectly moot.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:53 PM

and I cannot believe some of the nerve of these guys saying things like 'Sessler said quit it fanboys!'

So because Sessler said it, now it all makes perfect sense?! Honestly, I already said WELL before Sessler got on his soapbox that this generation of consoles was all about being what a true gamer is: a game whore. Hording all of the great titles AND the platforms it plays on, else you'll be missing out on something fun and amazing.

So don't play that 'Daddy said you should stop it' card, because some of us, like myself were already preaching that same message. I just like to correct fanboys, RRoD et al, because he is taking his bad experience with the 360 and blowing his love for the PS3 waaaay out of proportion.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:59 PM

@falcon74d

You're pretty much right... and I believe developers only have six of the eight cores form the Cell processor to work with.

Sans Wikipedia:

'Only six of the seven SPEs are accessible to developers as one is reserved by the OS.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /PlayStation_3#Hardware

Posted by him267 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:10 PM

graphics are great, beta sucks. I was very dissapointed after i got into the beta.

Posted by deleted_89852D5C-B766-4A6F-BFFE-930CEB21CA09 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:22 PM

Sony has created a technological monster (ps3) but in a good way.
Developers can't handle the ps3's power so that is why they work on the 360 version more cuz their dumbasses.

Posted by evilriku - Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:52 PM

i love how fanboys are coming on here saying that the graphics suck. do I sense jealousy.

And for those of you complaining about the gameplay and how the guys shot him and came flying torwars him, you do understand its a beta, and they plan on fixing all the problems. thats why people are TESTING it right now.

And 360 fanboys. keep thinking its pre-rendered because it will just suprize you more when it come out with better graphics! The devs said " Now we can polish the hell out of the game."- EGM August 2008 issue.

Posted by ProjektX13 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:05 PM

if RROD wants to talk about bad graphics then lets talk about the PS3s bastard son HAZE

Posted by ctlaltdel - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:07 PM

i really would like to play killzone 2. i thought it looked cool when they showed it at E3.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:10 PM

@mrsappho

So seeing how developers are so incredibly stupid, why don't you enlighten us on how we should harness the full brunt of an as-of-yet untapped potential the Playstation 3 has?

What's that you say? You just like stirring the pot and saying things that hold no weight whatsoever in this topic?

Mm. That's what I thought. Developers are not 'dumb asses,' dude. Now if you said something like 'Not all developers, if any at all, have the tools to utilize the full potential of the system's hardware but I can't wait to see what will happen when they do,' you might've sounded like an educated and well-rounded person and not so much like a closed-minded douche.

But I digress... I'll just blame it on your blatant naïvety.

Posted by Yatzee1000 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:22 PM

There are 3 parts to any game Gameplay, Graphics, and Story. Which is most important? gameplay of course! Which is nice to have much better than everyone else? Graphics of course!
What ties it all together? the story of course! The original Killzone had serviceable graphics when they worked and the story was an interesting concept but it had the problem of uninteresting gameplay and a few framerate bugs which is what ultimately doomed it. No one considers the original killzone a great game but the footage for the new one looks pretty good. As a 360 owner I will have to wait for the PC port if it gets good reviews but I warn you all. Beware the highly anticipated game because if you think that a game will be the greatest and it turns out to suck then not only will you be crucified on the forums but you yourself will be highly disappointed. The best strategy to adopt for games is the "We will wait and see" strategy as you will never be saddened by a way over hyped game.

Posted by Yatzee1000 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:24 PM

And I still think that Crysis has the best graphics of any game on the market but Killzone 2 is pretty damn close.

Posted by EldritchWarlord - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:46 PM

Posted by RedRingOfDeath - Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:14 PM
"February can't get here soon enough and then God of War 3 in March and then InFamous in May. Oh, man that's a lot of great exclusives in the early part of 09. The Xbots will have to watch Netflix movies next year."

Why do you refer to people that own no gaming systems and have Netflix memberships as "Xbots"? Surely you can't be refering to Xbox players who will have Halo Wars, more likely than not still be playing Gears of War 2 and catching up on all the great titles from around now that they can't get right now on account of there being so many.

And where do the latter two release dates come from?

Posted by Thundercracker - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:50 PM

@theauracle

you seem like a relatively intelligent human being, which begs the question, why cant you afford a ps3?

Posted by newbman - Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:53 PM

RROD about infamous...

I saw a demo of it at Pax 08 and they had to restart it when the PS3 froze.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:15 PM

@thundercracker

I do have one. And I didn't pay full price for one. A friend of mine sold his 40 GB, two controllers and the four games he had for it for $250. I'm purchasing a 250 GB HDD for it so I can make a bigger Linux partition on my PS3.

Now, instead of assuming that i didn't have one, why would you prove to me that you haven't an iota of common sense? You could have simply asked me if I had one and not act like a total elitist.

What I make per annum is none of your business, nor is it relevant to this topic or ANY topic about gaming, what so ever. And because you seem to think that I was, somehow, unable to afford my Xbox 360, my Playstation 3 and my gaming PC (which I built myself), that make me, in some asinine way, unintelligent AND inferior as a gamer?

Kill yourself, dude. Seriously, you disgust me as human being and you embarrass us all as gamers with your arrogant and elitist attitude.

Posted by vvoody - Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:02 PM

These graphics look really good. I don't have a ps3 but if I did I would definitely pick this game up. But I don't know what the game play is like. Good graphics is one thing, but you need good game play to back it up. Gears2 had good graphics and the campaign was fun, but the multilayer didn't deliver.

Posted by TheAuracle - Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:06 PM

Most gamers (well according to the stereotype, anyway) are unemployed, are full-time students at Uni or Community College or are still under the age of consent and living with their parents and had their console of choice bought for them, because their parents said they could only have one.

That said, why do Sony fanboys constantly persist that the reason most people don't have a Playstation 3 yet is because they can't afford one? Take a look around you. The economy is almost at a stand still and people are losing their jobs like cats do hair when they shed. What about the fact that gamers didn't feel like Sony was being fair and honest when they charged people $600 for a console when they could've put that into their computers or bought both the Xbox 360 and the Wii for around that price? Even now, you STILL don't get a HDMI cable when you purchase the Playstation 3. So by your logic thundercracker, you're only intelligent when you can AFFORD a PS3?

Posted by Bookshelf - Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:24 PM

@TheAuracle
ok dude chill, GPU size... i thought you were talking about the die size, you know being 90nm or something, be more specific next time.

Posted by Lukasz - Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:50 PM

Killzone 2 looks super to me. PS3 Rulz! :)
I Want K2 Beta!!!!!!

Posted by evilriku - Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:14 PM

Back when they were selling the PS3 for $600 the economy wasnt in shambles. It accualy was booming.

And a bussness that contributes alot to the economy is infact Sony. So if Sony were to go under, then many jobs and the world economy would be in shambles.

That aside, how is Killzone 2 a bad game? because its on PS3? Because its not on your system of choise? Get over it. Every system has its good games. Xbox has Halo and Gears, Nintendo has Mario and Legend of Zelda, and Sony has MGS, Killzone, and God of War.

Posted by evilriku - Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:34 PM

Back when they were selling the PS3 for $600 the economy wasnt in shambles. It accualy was booming.

And a bussness that contributes alot to the economy is infact Sony. So if Sony were to go under, then many jobs and the world economy would be in shambles.

That aside, how is Killzone 2 a bad game? because its on PS3? Because its not on your system of choise? Get over it. Every system has its good games. Xbox has Halo and Gears, Nintendo has Mario and Legend of Zelda, and Sony has MGS, Killzone, and God of War.

Posted by Yatzee1000 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:48 PM

What would the world be like if Sony and Microsoft went under? That would be... weird.

Posted by sps73 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:22 PM

I think this game looks just like F.E.A.R.! A generic looking shooter, and as far as 360 owners being jealious, HA! are you guys kidding me! We have GEARS 2 to play and i don't care what any one of you have to say GEARS 2 has the coolest looking graphics out there, and anyone who has played the campain single or co-op will agree that the art direction and style are second to none and absolutely breathtaking!

Just the underground and the sunkin city alone are enough!

Posted by sps73 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:25 PM

And one more thing is that no game has the feel and control of GEARS 2! So it wins in the gameplay arena too.

But i truely do hope this game turns out to be fantastic! But red exploding barrels don't give me much hope...

Posted by D_Money_911 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:59 PM

HEHEHE, i feel sorry for all of you arguing. PS3 is the most powerful system end of story. This is the best looking game to date( I dont know Crisis and mgs4 were close) end of story. Arguing though is only a matter of opinion people know when you have a legit arguement or when your a cyber nerd not gettin any poon. This post is supposed to talk about the undisputed champ in graphics and my friends this is true. Also you need to own both the 360 and P3 to argue about game being better like me so fanboys go gets some poon and you will realize there is more to life than argueing with other inpubesant virges

Posted by Reese8732 - Friday, November 14, 2008 2:48 AM

Well I will say that while you have Gears 2 and Halo Wars, Left 4 dead Sony still have more exclusives out than M$. Will you guys geta life the 360 is on its last leg that's why the price drop like it did. Just like the PS2 last generation. More exclusives, getting more games, stronger system, better franchises looking like money well spent to me!!!!!

Posted by Thundercracker - Friday, November 14, 2008 7:01 AM

@auracle

look you little bitch, no one gives a half a sht about you or your fancy gaming rig, no one cares if you die tommorow. Instead of trying to showcase your esoteric computer knowledge, perhaps you could get off the fu@##ng couch and make me stop talking about you. You fat ass virgin sonofabitch.
Correcting bookshelf on gpu specs. I bet thats a hit with the ladies, huh scooter? Why dont you get off your gaming rig and try to get laid finally. BTW i AM an elitist. But id much rather be an elitist then some geek squad tech support hypocrite such as yourself. In your rebuttal, try to use as many abstruse worda as possible when detailing how you are not an elitist, thanks for playing you incredible d bag

Posted by Thundercracker - Friday, November 14, 2008 7:03 AM

^^^also your xbox just red ringed again

Posted by T_Bone_1976 - Friday, November 14, 2008 7:25 AM

@adonaisaves

" low-quality bad voice-acting/screaming". Right. Gears 1.5 should get an Oscar for its deep and engaging voice-acting and story. Oh wait, the story wasn't included with the game. Maybe you'll get it with an update. Or a fan-novella. And forgive me for not falling over the deep voice-acting: "look a brumak. Let's get the f#@&er." lol

Posted by TheAuracle - Friday, November 14, 2008 7:43 AM

@thundercracker

lol... does that make you feel more like a man, assuming that i'm fat, a virgin, etc?

wow. such idiocy shouldn't be graced with even a semi-decent response. you just go ahead and take pride in being totally off centre with your earlier response. you sound more childish than my three-month old daughter.

Posted by TheAuracle - Friday, November 14, 2008 7:53 AM

@thundercracker

also... me using my command of the English language is not an indication of me being an elitist. If that offends you, pick up a thesaurus/dictionary combo, enroll in a remedial English course at your local community college and be offended no more.

That said, I wonder if you can pre-order Killzone 2. I know it's slated for a February release...

Posted by Gamekat - Friday, November 14, 2008 10:34 AM

Hell yeah thats some ething that made might heart jump kick as graphicks man killzone 1 graphics where ok if these graphics are kick as ima kiss my freaken ps3 and killzone2 hell might even get it a trophy case

Posted by Captainjack8228 - Friday, November 14, 2008 11:21 AM

sooo....when are they getting the real voice actors and the real dialog? because it's graphically great, but if those are the actual voice actors and the actual script, the game is a joke.

Posted by Joshua360 - Friday, November 14, 2008 2:51 PM

Graphics are a portion of what makes a game great. Game play, enemy A.I., Story, are still to be determined.

The player movement seemed extremely slow in my opinion and the shootouts didn't impress me.

The success of this game will make or break the ps3 judging from the excitement of ps3 fan boys.

Posted by Joshua360 - Friday, November 14, 2008 2:59 PM

Judging from what I see in this footage, Shootouts with the Locus Hoard are 1000 time more intense. That's no joke.

Also, the enemy A.I. in Gears is more clever they don't stand around waiting to be shot like the enemies in this game.

Posted by deleted_C500C119-53DD-4584-B8AF-983D528528D8 - Friday, November 14, 2008 9:23 PM

a great game for a great gaming system now only if the 360 could get some good game poor 360 cant handle killzone graphics and cant handle mgs4 only game it plays great is rrod

Posted by Thundercracker - Friday, November 14, 2008 11:51 PM

@the auracle

fair enough, i just have one question for you

does best buy have good benefits?

and also, your "mastery" of the english language that you pride yourself of having achieved...needs work. You sound like mike tyson....and maybe you arent fat or a virgin (yes you are) but you CERTAINLY are a smug pretentious little douchebag. With regard to your intelligence, you are below the mean in here, son

I used to think Smartguy81 was a loser, but you make him look like magnum PI

also, i have a degree from a top tier university so i dont REALLY need to walk around with a pocket thesaurus.

Posted by Thundercracker - Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:08 AM

"semi-decent" thats the best adjective you could think of? lol...

"blatantly facetious" yeah REAL poor choice of words....blatantly? You used blatantly as an adjective... thats an adverb, or it should be
if you want to speak good (sarcasm)

"blatant naivety " You like the word blatant huh? Looks like YOU may need a thesaurus there scooter

rendering RRoD's comments reeking of that familiar fanboy stench.....incorrect use of gerund verb..2 of them

this generation of consoles was all about being what a true gamer is: a game whore

..intriguing, lol

enlighten us on how we should harness the full brunt of an as-of-yet untapped potential the Playstation 3 has?

i literally dont have time to go into all the things that are wrong with that statement

there you go tyson, you need work...remember the 9 o clock show is totally different fromt eh 5 o clock show, try the veal

Posted by Thundercracker - Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:19 AM

but just to clarify, cause im sick of "owning" you

i said that you seem like a relatively intelligent person, why cant you afford a ps3...that was "blatantly facetious" You would think with your advanced john nash level cognizance that you would be able to ascertain that. But instead just because i called you poor, you got all fussy. Did i hit a nerve? I know that words are all you have so you use them to try to make other people seem less intelligent. In the future, before you set out on another glottological jihad, maybe you should take the time to use words correctly. Update your lexicon (also sarcastic because i used the antiquated expression glottology...im priceless)

Posted by Thundercracker - Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:20 AM

I know a lot of words too, but i dont use them to show off....only douchebags like you do!

Posted by Markntosh - Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:59 PM

I know this game has "undisputed graphics" and all, but lets remember that it's not the graphics that make a game awesome. I'm not a fanboy, just saying. I do hope the make the AI a little smarter by release, but that and the glitch in the last 5 seconds are the only things I saw wrong with this game.

Posted by deleted_C500C119-53DD-4584-B8AF-983D528528D8 - Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:07 PM

poor xbox 3fixme cant handle the graphics it would just rrod lol

Posted by Markntosh - Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:44 PM

@emk2008

Stop giving PS3 owners a bad name. The 360 is not a bad console, it's just the PS3 excels in certain areas. The 360 is still a VERY fun console to play on.

Don't think I'm just talking to emk, though. This goes out to all fanboys and trolls out there. One of the reasons I didn't get a 360 was because of the massive amounts of trolling and blind fanboyism all over the place. You have not proved to me that the community on the 360 is a good one. At the same time, I see a good bit on the Sony side of things, but not NEARLY as much.

What I really don't get is why trolls have to whine and complain that another console sucks. What happened to be polite and keeping honor?

Posted by Ivan_PSP - Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:15 PM

Killzone 2 looks perfect graphically. Killzone 2 Multiplayer can only be rivaled by Resistance 2 and they both done to perfection. There's no way in HELL that Killzone 2 won't be the best FPS in the entire gaming world. This game is gonna be great especially in story and is gonna have a lot of replay value. No other FPS besides Resistance 2 can rivaled this mind blowing jaw dropping master piece. Only for PlayStation.

Posted by lilme3333 - Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:22 AM

looks great, interesting cover system, sixaxis is a plus in my opinion, needs music for firefights and smarter A.I.

Posted by PcgamerWithAClue - Friday, November 28, 2008 2:44 AM

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CRYSIS CRYSIS CRYSIS CRYSIS S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky CRYSIS: WARHEAD CRYSIS: WARHEAD Clear Sky CRYSIS: WARHEAD CRYSIS: WARHEAD Clear Sky CRYSIS: WARHEAD CRYSIS: WARHEAD

I take it the "expert" hasn't heard of played these titles.

Posted by PcgamerWithAClue - Friday, November 28, 2008 2:47 AM

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CRYSIS CRYSIS CRYSIS CRYSIS S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky CRYSIS: WARHEAD CRYSIS: WARHEAD Clear Sky CRYSIS: WARHEAD CRYSIS: WARHEAD Clear Sky CRYSIS: WARHEAD CRYSIS: WARHEAD

I take it the "expert" hasn't heard of played these titles.

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