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The Girl Who Will Change The Internet?

Posted by Jonathan Hunt - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:00 AM

Recently, we at TheFeed were asked to cease using aliases and write our posts under our given names. After a few minutes of raucous ballyhoo and appeals to the powers-that-be, the writers of TheFeed resigned ourselves to saying goodbye to our much-beloved internet anonymity.

Soon, you may know our pain. While some would argue that this crazy virtual world of teh Internetz depends on anonymity, we all may soon find out what the 'nets will be like if everyone was suddenly held accountable for their words and virtual actions.

On May 15th, a Missouri woman was indicted on three charges of lying about who she was... to MySpace. The story leading to the accusations is long and twisted, and it begins with the death of a 13 year-old girl named Megan Meier—the girl who may change the internet forever.



THE GIRL WHO MAY CHANGE EVERYTHING

Megan Meier grew up in Dardenne Prarie Missouri, a small suburb of St. Louis. Her parents describe Megan as a "bubbly, goofy" girl, who liked swimming, boating, and fishing. She was a member of her 7th Grade Volleyball Team at Fort Zumwalt West Middle School in nearby O'Fallon, Missouri.

From early in her childhood, Megan suffered from psychological issues. She was diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder and Depression. In the 3rd Grade, she contemplated suicide and had been seeing a therapist ever since. She considered herself overweight and had a contentious on-again-off-again friendship with a girl down the street.

Megan's parents, just in time for her 8th Grade Year, decided to transfer Megan from Fort Zumwalt to Immaculate Conception, a private school in Dardenne Prairie, in an effort to provide a more understanding and comfortable atmosphere for Megan.

As summer turned to fall in 2006, life seemed to be improving for Megan. Her depression appeared to be lifting, she had shed 20 pounds and school seemed to be going well. Since she appeared to be doing so much better, Megan's mother allowed her to open a MySpace account, an account Megan's parents would closely and rigorously monitor. Megan was actually not given the password to the account; only her parents had the ability to log in for her.

When Megan met Josh Evans in September of 2006, she didn't think things could get much better.

A TIMELINE

September 2006:

"Josh Evans", a 16 year-old boy, claims to have recently moved to nearby O'Fallon, Missouri and befriends Megan over MySpace. Megan is thrilled and comments to her mother repeatedly on how "hot" she thinks he is. Megan's mother allows the online friendship to continue under her supervision.

Megan's mother, Tina, would later say, "Megan had a lifelong struggle with weight and self-esteem [...] And now she finally had a boy who she thought really thought she was pretty."

Megan remarks that she thinks it's odd that "Josh" never asks for her phone number and when she asks for his, he says that he doesn't have a cell phone and they have not installed a land line yet.

October 15th, 2006:

"Josh Evans" breaks off the friendship via MySpace message by stating, "I don't know if I want to be friends with you anymore because I've heard that you are not very nice to your friends."

Megan's immediate response to "Josh" is, "What are you talking about?"

"Josh Evans" did not respond that night.

October 16th, 2006:

At school, Megan hands out invitations for her upcoming 14th birthday party. She returns home asks her mother if she can log into MySpace and check to see if "Josh" has responded. Tina, in a hurry to get Megan's younger sister to the orthodontist, logs in for Megan and prepares to leave.

"Evans" has responded with more upsetting messages. Tina, on her way out the door, tells Megan to log off. Megan promises that she will, saying, "Let me finish up."

Tina calls Megan from the orthodontist office to make sure that Megan has signed off. At this point, Megan is in tears, telling her mother, "They are all being so mean to me."

At this point, "Josh Evans" had been sharing private messages with some of Megan's other friends. Some friends joined in the cruel messages, making bulletins that would go out to everyone on their friends list with subject lines like, "Megan Meier is a slut" or "Megan Meier is fat."

Tina arrives home and finds Megan still at the computer. Tina gets Megan to stand up away from the computer and Tina reads the vulgar language her daughter had been using to respond the cruel attacks. She tells Megan, "I am so aggravated at you for doing this!"

As Megan leaves the room and heads upstairs for her bedroom, she yells at her mother, "You’re supposed to be my mom! You’re supposed to be on my side!"

Megan bumps into her father on the stairs, where she tells him what people had been saying about her over MySpace. He comforts her and tells her that it would be okay and that these people obviously don’t know her.

Twenty minutes later, Megan's parents enter her bedroom to find that Megan has hanged herself with a belt from her closet.

They immediately pull her down and her father attempts CPR while Tina calls for an ambulance.

October 17th, 2006:

Megan dies at the hospital. She is three weeks from turning 14.

Megan's father logs into his daughter's MySpace to read some the mean spirited messages for himself. The final message sent from Josh reads, "Everybody in O'Fallon knows who you are. You are a bad person and everybody hates you. Have a shitty rest of your life. The world would be a better place without you."

AFTERMATH

Naturally, Ron and Tina Meier attempt to contact "Josh Evans". By the next day, his MySpace account has been deleted. Later on that day, the Meiers travel down the street to visit the girl who had once been Megan's friend to comfort her and let her know that, despite the arguments the two girls sometimes had, Megan valued her friendship.

The girls' parents, Lori and Curt Drew, ask the Meiers to store a foosball table (a Christmas gift for one of the Drew children) in their garage. The Meiers agree.

Six weeks after the death of their daughter, they were called into their counselor's office in O'Fallon by a neighbor that they did not know very well. The story they were told when they arrived would be nearly unfathomable.

"Josh Evans" did not exist. The boy the Meiers felt was largely responsible for what happened to Megan was an invention. He was created by a woman in their neighborhood. A woman on their street. A woman named Lori Drew.

That’s right. The woman who was mother to Megan's on-again-off-again friend, the woman who had asked Ron and Tina to store a foosball table for them, was the creator and mastermind behind the non-existent "Josh Evans". Apparently, the character of "Josh Evans" had been created as a way for Lori to determine what bad things Megan might have been saying about her daughter.

The neighbor claimed to have discovered all this from her own daughter, who had "joined in on the joke." She even claims that on the night Megan died, while the ambulance was still at the Meier's, her daughter received a phone call from Lori Drew saying that something had happened to Megan and that it would be best not to mention the fake MySpace account.

Upon returning home from the meeting, the Meier’s took to the foosball table in their garage with an axe and a sledgehammer. They dumped the obliterated remains into a box and dropped it off on the driveway of the Drew’s with the message, "Merry Christmas" written on the side.

The story remained out of the media for over a year, as the FBI and County officials tried determine if there were grounds for a criminal case.

Steve Pokin of the St. Charles County Examiner published a story on Sunday, November 11, 2007 about the events surrounding the suicide of Megan Meier. The article stopped short of naming Lori Drew as the creator of the account, but the story caught like wildfire over the Internet. Bloggers the country over expressed outrage that nothing had been done for over a year to help Megan find "justice".

Based on the details of the story, it did not take long for the blogging community to find the name of Lori Drew. Within hours she was the focal point of the internet's hatred, blaming her for the death of the 13 year-old girl from Dardenne Prairie.

On December 3, 2007, St. Charles County, Missouri prosecutor Jack Banas revealed that he had reviewed the laws related to stalking, harassment, and child endangerment and couldn't find statutes allowing him to file charges against Lori Drew or anyone involved.

At this point, the outrage grew, hitting mainstream media outlets, such as CNN and ABC News.

Then, on May 15th, 2008, Lori Drew was indicted on Federal charges for her role in the MySpace hoax. She is charged with one count of Conspiracy and 3 counts of Accessing Protected Computers Without Authorization.

TRUTH AND CONSEQUENCES

This is where the story starts to affect us, the good people of The Internets, who thrive on offering up our unsolicited and often unwanted opinions on the general populace through a smoke screen of technology and anonymity. What does it mean for us if this woman, Lori Drew, is found guilty on all charges? She's been charged with "Accessing Protected Computers Without Authorization". The computers in question are the MySpace servers. She's being charged with lying to MySpace about her identity.

How many of you have lied about who you are online? How many have fudged the numbers on how old you are? Be honest, your MySpace profile says your 103 years-old, doesn't it? How about creating fake email addresses so you have a place to direct annoying SPAM emails you’d be otherwise inundated with should you be forced to cough up your genuine email domain? Imagine that each time you lied to a computer, you committed a felony.

Before we move much further on this issue, let's be clear about something. If Lori Drew is guilty of what she is accused of doing with the "Josh Evans" account, there is no defense for her actions. There is flat out no excuse for a grown woman to behave in such a manner toward a 13 year-old child. Should there be some sort of protection set up for people like Megan? Sure, but currently we really don't have anything in our legal system. What happened to Megan is a genuine tragedy that has touched a vast number of people out there, this contributor being one of them. Are we clear on this issue? Good. Now, let’s continue…

PRECEDENT COULD BE TEH SUXX0RZ

The precedent that could be created upon a conviction of Lori Drew is a scary one. Suddenly, people could find themselves accountable for anything they said on the Internet. Larger than that, what would happen to the practice of "screen names"? If lying about who you are on the Internet became a crime, would websites do away with screen names entirely?

We think not. Instead, websites would probably require verification of your identity and then they would tie that info to the screen name of your choosing. Of course, this information would be, theoretically, confidential. Still, many people don't want anyone to know who they really are online. The paranoia of identity in the online world comes from many sources.

Some people are terrified of "Identity Theft", convinced that if any online website has any sort of genuine information on them, they are at risk of financial ruin. Other people fear the dreaded "Online Predator", brought into the spotlight with segments like "To Catch a Predator" on Dateline NBC. Others simply want to keep their online and real identities completely separate.

Whether these fears are justified or magnified by media interested, what happens to people when they can no longer lie about who they are online?

Now, remember when I asked you earlier to think about every time you've ever lied about yourself on the Internet? And think about each of those times being a felony? Well, now what do you think about the charges against Lori Drew? Are you prepared to stop lying online? Are you prepared to give up the precious anonymity the World Wide Web provides each of its children? Are you willing to risk jail and losing the right to vote just to avoid some SPAM or not letting strangers know who you really are?

These aren't only rhetorical questions, either; they'll have hard and fast answers in a matter of months, depending on the outcome of the Megan Meier case.

Our judicial system is based primarily on precedent. Determining what is the proper legal course of action usually comes down to how it has been before. The Internet in its current form has only been around for approximately 15 years. Precedent and jurisdiction for online "crimes" is still being formed. On top of that, we're still trying to determine what all constitutes a cyber-crime.

The fact the Lori Drew was brought up on charges stemming from her lying to MySpace shows that authorities couldn't find any charges that would apply that directly reflect her behavior toward Megan Meier. What would they charge her with? Being mean? As despicable as it may be, it's not illegal to be jerk. Even to a kid.

So the Federal authorities, under immense pressure to find something to charge Lori Drew with, decided on three counts of Accessing Protected Computers Without Authorization and one count of Conspiracy. The indictments were handed down in Los Angeles, California where MySpace (the "victim" computers) is based.

Ironically, much of the public outrage that created the pressure on Federal authorities to call in the Grand Jury came from online sources. It was the online community that exposed Lori Drew as the woman behind the MySpace hoax. It was the online community that raised their voices in protest, calling the lack of criminal charges against Mrs. Drew a "miscarriage of justice." However, it is this same community who may lose one of the things they love most about the virtual world.

Well, where do we go from here? Sadly, there does not appear to be much chance of any criminal charges being filed in relation to the actions taken against Megan Meier which, pretty undeniably, led to her suicide. Sure, the indictments handed down might be the only charges that can, in a bizarre and what some might call backwards way of reading the law, be filed against Lori Drew, might it be best to instead focus on keeping this sort of thing from happening again rather than try and achieve some sort of retribution?

Believe me, my heart and soul goes out to Ron and Tina Meier. The death of one's child is greatest loss one could experience. It seems to contradict the very essence of life and nature. As despicable as Lori Drew's actions are, the effort being made to send her to prison (even if just for few weeks) is creating a fog, keeping us from truly learning from this experience and growing stronger from it.

I do not think anything can be done to bring "justice" for Megan Meier. I fear that she is destined to join a list of countless others who sadly fell victim before the system was in place to help them.

We, as a community have two ways we can handle this. We can stay where we are: Angry, outraged, and obsessed with finding "justice" in the forms of questionable charges and means of retribution. Or we can look forward, and try to find meaning in the tragedy.

Of course, as soon as the word regulation comes into an argument, it becomes a very sticky situation. Sure, we do not want to limit our freedom of speech in any way, but we still must find methods for people to be responsible for their actions. The First Amendment protects your right to say what you will, but it does not free you of responsibility for what you say. It is this fundamental reason why it's illegal to yell "Fire" in a theater. That's why it is illegal to say "Kill the President!"

While we can never outlaw being an a**hole, we can regulate the behavior between adults and minors. We have precedent for that. It's against the law to even engage in sexually explicit dialogue with a minor in certain circumstances. A 13 year old child is not legally responsible for their actions in regards to violence and sexuality according to our legal system. Thus, shouldn't that extend to violence against themselves. If an adult told a child to go out and kill someone and they did, that adult would be charged in a heart beat. What if that adult told the child to kill themselves?

We're at a point where we need to have a system of order for the online world. The Internet is a different animal than the real world. We cannot expect laws to be as fitting there and they are outside of the virtual. But we have to be careful. The easy way through this is to outlaw all the things we don't like about the Internet, which some people have obviously tried to do. But hard and fast regulation isn't the answer either. We have to be delicate, as delicate as our founding fathers were when drafting the laws that we now find sadly inadequate for the new, online world of information.


Comment(s)


Posted by Money77 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:34 AM
What an awesome article. Thank you Jonathan. (If that is your real name)

Posted by CanadianKris - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:37 AM
Hmm... well this could really be interesting. Kind of a double edged sword. On one hand we do need to protect our youth from such online bullying. On the other hand we do need to protect our own identities from theft. Let the cultural revolution begin...

Posted by loco91 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:40 AM
whoa, thats deep

Posted by demi_flames - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:41 AM
Damn. Just damn.

Posted by laryri - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:42 AM
Wow.

Posted by rrockshow182 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:44 AM
agreed. i actually live in waterford crossing, wich is the neighborhood in which these families live. i know them both personally. you cannot imagine the amount of hatred torwards this woman. sinc i live 3 houses down from them ive witnessed firsthand all of these events. if you ever need any updates on the situation just shoot me a message.(and im actually being honest about my identity.)

Posted by TrikYodz - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:51 AM
I live in the same county in Missouri and my place of work's business was directly effected by this. And we lost business because our work was a client of the advertising agency the mom, who was the impostor, ran. so because of her we got punished. Thankfully it got all better.
Making the world lose their anonymity would, if anything make things worse. And they dont understand, like the press publicized that my job was associated with that lady made everyone think we were evil too. So all in all Theyre doing more harm than good, but they dont realize it.
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Posted by Brutus221 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:52 AM
wow...

that's the only word I have for that.

Hopefully if the criminal system fails in this case, the civil system will find a form of justice in the form of a wrongful death suit.

Posted by TrikYodz - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:53 AM
yeah Shaw! can you beleive all the bricks that went through the window?

Posted by rrockshow182 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:54 AM
yeah its nuts man

Posted by yoshiarecool - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:54 AM
Superb article John. Pulitzer Prize superb

Posted by Matt2 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:57 AM
woah... damn, im at a loss for words, this is something to think about...

Posted by yoshiarecool - Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:58 AM
There will always be dickwads on the internet, no matter what happens. Its what happens when a large group of people are given complete anonymity. But we must also remember that the internet is the greatest form of the first amendment; to bad some take advantage of it
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Posted by mithos90 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:01 AM
Looking at this, will this affect Online Game play from consoles to PC. Games like WoW to Halo. This is crazy if the government changed it to where we have to give our actual identity. Web sites I dont see it as a problem but when u go to play a game someone with a high pitched voice will get bullied obviously. As of games based on screen names which MMO's use, people use that has a way to get away from their real life and this will sorta ruined it for them. But then this can happen no mater where you are on the web and its pretty sick.

Posted by mithos90 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:08 AM
Looking at this, will this affect Online Game play from consoles to PC. Games like WoW to Halo. This is crazy if the government changed it to where we have to give our actual identity. Web sites I dont see it as a problem but when u go to play a game someone with a high pitched voice will get bullied obviously. As of games based on screen names which MMO's use, people use that has a way to get away from their real life and this will sorta ruined it for them. But then this can happen no mater where you are on the web and its pretty sick.

Posted by renemSRS - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:13 AM
wow...words can't rly describe this tragedy...

Posted by VergilSnake - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:21 AM
Damn dude....wow...

Posted by jandowae - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:34 AM
Thats to bad what happened to the girl... but this will have no implication on the first amendment.

Posted by amazingjakeo - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:36 AM
dude that sh*# is whack. but seriosly guys we only get one chance in this world. after that we are gone. we should not be fighting and killing. just live life to its fullest.

Posted by gravy666 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:37 AM
Wow...

It's things like this that make me wonder if the internet could actually ever die... just think about it...

Posted by lateralsnowflake - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:38 AM
This is a very frightening precedent.

I sincerely hope that this is not a brightline for things to come. If it is, you can bet your bottom dollar that life on the internet as we know it will be over.

Megan's death may usher in an era of a digital police state, where every action is monitored carefully, every reaction monitored just as carefully. The FBI or NSA might step in at any time to silence an individual whom they think presents a threat to the worldwide online community.

We need to tread carefully on this issue, or we may be ruining our lives and the lives of our children.

Posted by marowin - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:40 AM
Wonderful article. Now we all just have to wait and see how much damage the system that failed to protect this girl will do in order to cover its own tracks. The possibility that there may be more victims of this tragedy is a daunting possibility that we all must face. Perhaps when all can help when electing the legislators that make up this system. I wish that they will show the strength, judgment, and foresight to prevent this tragedy from happening again without punishing those who did nothing to cause it. My heart goes out to Megan's family. -James

Posted by mEm00t - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:56 AM
I applaud thefeed for this amazing and well written story i only wish all your news was this well done. And as far as that ahole goes something very very unfortunate should happen to her.

Posted by yamugushi - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:56 AM
That was a really well written article, one that compares to the new york times or something...
But what happened is just well...

Posted by younggunna - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:57 AM
dang. that was the longest article i have ever read online and wow. just wow. very sad

Posted by LastExile26 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:00 AM
I hope this event is resolved in the most peaceable method possible. I'm very sorry to the young girl but perhaps, children with psychological disorders should have much more limited access to the harsh, cruel world of the internet.

Posted by coryrouseslife - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:17 AM
But will this mean for "Lonelygirl15"? Hmm, let me think... NOTHING?

Posted by dojita16 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:18 AM
that was an amazing article.

Posted by capthavic - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:19 AM
I know I'm gonna sound like an uncaring you-know-what but here it is. While I am very sorry that she died (had plenty of death in my life) she shouldn't have let it get to her. Words only hurt if you let them. And if she did have a history of being depressed and possibly suicidal her parents should have kept a closer eye on her since she was obviously very upset. Not defending what was done to her but suicide is never the answer.

Anyway I just hope that a middle ground can be reached as far as net anonymity.

Posted by Caxton - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:26 AM
Very nice article. I do feel that in any event we have to be very careful about making bullying a crime, as harsh as this circumstance may be. While it may be true that Drew's comments may have led to Meier's suicide, it is a hard thing to prove. If we simply make any bullying that occurs to a suicide a crime, we may all find ourselves unknowingly commiting a federal crime. I'm not saying I support Drew in any way, but freedom does come at a price.

Posted by Bellamorte - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:30 AM
I doubt we'll lose our anonymity. I don't want to imagine the price of policing every forum/blog/message board on the net.

Posted by sleeptight - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:32 AM
This topic is definitely important. I wonder how many people are going to go away from reading this and NOT call people idiots and fanboys 24/7.

Posted by chaychay - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:33 AM
Most well written and executed article I've read on this site easily.

Posted by altizar - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:36 AM
Darwinism at work. . .

Posted by souelater181 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:37 AM
Leave it to a bunch of Insecure "blank"(rhymes with Witches and itches) and Judicial Pin heads to ruin one of the few uncorrupted freedoms we have left. What happened was tragic, but I've seen and heard worse harassment On X-box live. Instead of changing the ENTIRE internet, you should look into your self and ask yourself am I a Bad Enough Dude to press enter. The internet is not for the fragile! If you cant stand the heat then GTFO.

Posted by Noc_Da_Sniper - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:37 AM
Its one thing to lie about your personal info to protect yourself... its another to make up a person to cause harm or disrespect to a child when your an adult.... but then again would you consider her an adult? not every woman who has a child is a parent and not every person over 21 is an adult... i have no pity for lori . her intentions were terrible. my heart goes out to the family of the suicide victim.. some things you just dont expect an adult to do. I hope she gets serious jail time. awesome article by the way.. Its nice to see g4 cares to inform us of more than just video games.

Posted by taitorin - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:37 AM
wow... thats crazy... (the no anonymity thing that is)... that person is an adult woman she should know better than to screw with a depressed kid like that...

Posted by souelater181 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:38 AM
Leave it to a bunch of Insecure "blank"(rhymes with Witches and itches) and Judicial Pin heads to ruin one of the few uncorrupted freedoms we have left. What happened was tragic, but I've seen and heard worse harassment On X-box live. Instead of changing the ENTIRE internet, you should look into your self and ask yourself am I a Bad Enough Dude to press enter. The internet is not for the fragile! If you cant stand the heat then GTFO.

Posted by Mynock - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:38 AM
I have been watching this article for a while now, and I think some people should be held accountable for their actions online. I can not count how many times I am trying to play a game, just to have some racist player saying stuff all over the place. I mean I have kids who want to play these games, and I do not want them to play with those kinds of people. Especialy when I am trying to raise them right, and teach them right, from wrong. And plus I have dealt with Cyberstalkers, and when try to get rid of them, they just delete their account just to make another one.

Posted by dudius - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:38 AM
I agree wholeheartedly with this article. It's so sick that someone could treat another person so terribly.

Posted by nyadt - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:39 AM
My heart goes to the family of Megan Meier. As for those pathetic excuses for "humans" that contributed to Megan's dead, I hope and pray that they BURN IN HELL!!!!

Posted by souelater181 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:40 AM
Leave it to a bunch of Insecure "blank"(rhymes with Witches and itches) and Judicial Pin heads to ruin one of the few uncorrupted freedoms we have left. What happened was tragic, but I've seen and heard worse harassment On X-box live. Instead of changing the ENTIRE internet, you should look into your self and ask yourself am I a Bad Enough Dude to press enter. The internet is not for the fragile! If you cant stand the heat then GTFO.

Posted by souelater181 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:42 AM
Repeating Comments = annoyance.
:(

Posted by nyadt - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:45 AM
What's bad about this whole tragic situation is that because of one people's sick attacks, all have to pay! I am sick and tired of paying for other people's mistakes! It makes me question why do we even have freedom if the powers-that-be don't like something just take it away from us lowly mortal without even working out a solution! I have had it! It makes me feel less like a human and more like a pawn in their sick, twisted game!

Posted by ggamer25 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:47 AM
never would have expected such thought and deepness from this site

impressive

this is a real dillema

Posted by dudius - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:48 AM
Just a couple of things....

It doesnt take much to steal an identity. If you know how to interpret a driver's license number, thats all you need to get a birthday, mother's maiden name and social security number. I really hope that sites don't resort to making you verify your age with a birth certificate or driver's license or anything.

Courts have the power of precedent, but they can also elect to make a case exclusive. The Supreme court has done it at least once before.

I hate how it only takes one bonehead to ruin it for everyone. Today I got some motor oil and the lady checked my ID because kids are huffing.

Posted by Gogaku - Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:59 AM
Very sad story and well written article.

All I can say regarding the whole internet privacy matter is that it's not going to change. People are so used to be able to be anonymous on the internet that it would be an uproar if you all of a sudden had to put your real name out there. For one thing with a real name circulating the internet, one can easily found out where you live and do whatever they want to you. Imagen the flamewars being taken to the streets, it wouldn't be pretty, for one thing spectators would be blinded by the paleness of the fighters.
It won't change, and if it does, are they gonna prosecute the millions of people that still would be anonymous on the internet? It's just not realistic.

Posted by Gogaku - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:04 PM
And as nyadt said, the government should stop punishing everyone for something a few people are committing. It's like the whole business with Muslims for instance, they all are painted as evil terrorists while there's only a lonely few that actually are. It does not only creates more prejudice towards people, but also more hatred from the singled out group. If everyone thats anonymous on the internet gets associated with for instance this woman or say a sexual predator, no one will feel safe, not on the internet and not in the real world either. Fear is not the way to go, and it's sad that this government hasn't realized that yet...

Posted by bipolar93 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:07 PM
I'm just curious, but can someone please explain why that's not harrassment? I don't know what the legal definition for it is.
And 'Josh' is positively disgusting. Something should be done to her, but not if it comes at the cost of millions of innocent, unrelated people. Karma will get her if nothing else does.

Posted by sinister6972 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:13 PM
Hey G4, thanks...

I actually wrote something like this in another website but I can interpret it here....(see if you get it but you do gotta be smart)


"The Divine Internet"


Inferno: Money, business, games, porno, communication, advice, kids, parents, education, video, privacy, race, media, adultery, relationships, friends, emotion, music, programs, drugs , illegal, etc...

Purgatory: Corporations

Paradise: $$$$$$$

PS: Not bad, huh? Yep, I'm that good, LOL! Take care guys!

Posted by changbang - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:16 PM
either way, lori drew needs to be punished.

Posted by etniesrunner - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:20 PM
Wow. This is a great article.

I completely that people need to be responsible for what they say. As the article says we need to ease into it though, because otherwise we may end up with a system where too much information is needed and the system is too restricted.

Posted by shock3755 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:30 PM
I think everyone should be held accountable for what they say or do. I would have no problem with this, or any law passed for this. Reporters are held liable for anything they say, most of the stuff online that I read could be considered slander, or libal. It just brings it into that context. The writen word is the writen word. Hell it would stop those damn porn bots on Myspace that would be nice. It will also cut down on spam email. I see nothing but positives here. Why do people feel the need to lie about who they are just to say what they want? Oh and my name is Anthony DeGennaro.

Thank you.

Posted by pablobaby92 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:32 PM
Sad, this may change the whole internet, i don't know what to think, it will be safer to know, who is who in the internet, but at the same time it may affect all the people who use fake names!!!

Posted by feifei - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:47 PM
Just earlier this week, I was agreeing with Sessler for his outrage against bigots online, which stems from the anonymous nature of "online play."

It seems that when no one knows your face, since no one will be there to effect consequence, responsibility, tact, courteousness, and civility just go out the window.

While I wholeheartedly support our human right to free speech, I firmly believe that people shouldn't hide behind this to defend their being jerks.

Thus, I do believe that there needs to be consequences for what is done on the internet. This is the tragic and shameful truth to human existence: everyone, even adults, need discipline in order to function as civil human beings.

That being said, I also believe that strangling restrictions will not answer the problem, but create more. Like parenting, there's a delicate balance between freedom and discipline; too much of either usually never amounts to anything good.

Posted by pakodoom - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:58 PM
i think it's less illegal for Lori to have lied to myspace, than how she misrepresented herself to a 13 year old unstable girl. that sort of conspiracy to effect mental state is sickening. that a 'mature' mother, wife, and human, would stoop so low as to start insulting a child on the internet, and to spread that hate convincing other children (beleiving she was "Josh", i'm sure) into joining in the verbal bashing of Megan is gross parental neglegence. superkudos to Meg's 'rentsfor heavily restricting their daughter's internet use. as soon as Lori saw that up the street Megan was still "online now" and her mother was finally leaving her unnattended...i smell MASSIVE conspiracy attempts by Lori Drew a Heinous B Witch. any adult who would go to such lengths to hurt a child, with the excuse of investigating gossip...forget it. i'm FAR to outraged to be writting right now.

Posted by pakodoom - Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:59 PM
i had to edit my original post a lot for length i hope it still makes sense.

Posted by phoenixfire360 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:11 PM
f##K that woman to h3ll.there is no excuse for doing something that damn mean.Lori drew u need to go f##k urself

Posted by gamerfool16 - Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:12 PM
What? your crazy article writer.. if anything myspace should be sued and/or disbanded. Its just like video games 17+, its up to the parents to make sure their kids dont play them or understand when they do play them. Its all on