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Analyst: Xbox 360 in Trouble in Europe

Posted by Brian Leahy - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:09 AM

David Cole, an analyst from DFC Intelligence, believes that the Xbox 360 will "struggle" in Europe during 2008

He claims that it is because the Xbox 360 has an "urban, irreverent adult male feel; so it hasn't gained traction in the more casual gaming markets of mainland Europe such as France, Spain and Italy, where it's stalled."

He added, "that there are already rumours of Xbox 360 being delisted from certain retailers."

He contends that FPS games will continue to find a loving home on the Xbox 360, but the casual market is where he see's failure.

He also drops some hard logic on the Wii, saying that the casual console is very popular, but not have a "steady stream of games that please" the casual crowd.

Clearly, he is on Sony's payroll, am I right?

Eurogamer: Year ahead a "struggle" for Xbox




Comment(s)


Posted by TheRufio - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:15 AM
Oh well.

Posted by MooNdoGG420 - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:19 AM
Clearly.
Any1 who speaks ill of the xbox360 must be on Sony's payroll

Posted by cmdluke - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:25 AM
FAIL!

Posted by LoveLifeMusic - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 AM
Where would be the sony turn around? So the console in last place will come in first, based on nothing.

Posted by ImpurestCrowd - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:43 AM
Maybe Europeans are smarter than Americans when it comes to picking the best gaming system.That would explain why the PS3 is selling like 2-1 in Europe against the 360 compared to the US.

Posted by Slaytanic40oz - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:46 AM
I'd like to know what he means by "urban, irreverent adult male feel"

so jerks in the cities play it? doesn't, say, MOST OF EUROPE live in cities?

Posted by dj8002 - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:46 AM
Lmao, I don't own a 360, I own a PS3 and I don't see the 360 no longer being a contender in Europe. Sure, PS3 has seen more popularity in Europe than in other countries, but the 360 I'm pretty sure still has at least a pretty good hold over there. They do have a better line up of games (See, some of us can be a playstation owner and not be a fanboy jack a** at the same time!)
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Posted by philhuddy - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:54 AM
ummmm...who cares? I got mine.

them blokes across the long pond are retarded anyways. anyone taste the crap they call "food".

Posted by LJbloaded - Friday, June 06, 2008 10:55 AM
Sony makes casual games????????? WTF?

Posted by VergilSnake - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:00 AM
Why not ever have a day with any posts that'll attract fanboys?

Oh wait, that's all you guys are really about.

Posted by Tasomo - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:24 AM
Now now Vergil, if it was strictly a topic designed to bring in higher traffic by pissing off fanboys and starting flamewars it would have been posted by S(teve)Johnson

Posted by face0324 - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:28 AM
hahahahahahaha!

Posted by zortman66 - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:30 AM
After reading this article, the song "The End" by The Doors started to play in my head...
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Posted by tlevel5 - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:34 AM
I wonder if this is the same analyst that said the PS3 would be in the number 1 postion by summer of 07.....ooops, lol

Posted by sinister6972 - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:42 AM
We know Microsoft got crazy ideas up in their sleeves......I mean, look at what they almost did to Yahoo!! They were gonna have the big boys(regulators or "a hit job", which I like to call it) to make it through. Hey, who knows, people will probably still like it...

Posted by UnJaked - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:45 AM
What ever man 360 all the way as a hardcore gamer thats where it's at. Who cares if ps3 and wii are just casual. I like the the 360 best because gammers on X-Box live bring the most competition.

Posted by Bookshelf - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:48 AM
@UnJaked
i was in gamestop and i saw a Dad helping his 10 and 12 year old kids to pick out a 360 game.. oh yeah real hardcore gammer competition there.

Posted by FLS_Carnage - Friday, June 06, 2008 11:55 AM
The ps3 doesn't have any games except for mgs4. It's jst a cheap way to get a bluray player seeing as they cost more than a ps3

Posted by WhereAmI1980 - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:14 PM
^Again PS3 has great games like resistance, Warhawk, and soon MGS4.

360 just has halo, gears of war, and mass effect.

Not counting the multiplatforms.

I think its safe to say that both consoles have great games.

Honestly, the 360 will only do good in the US...

Europeans hate Microsoft, they always try to sue them for everything...

Posted by ImpurestCrowd - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:32 PM
If the PS3 is a cheap Blu Ray player, Does that make the 360 an expensive DVD player?

Posted by TheRufio - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:44 PM
I absolutely hate Microsoft, but I like my xbox 360. Quite the conundrum.

Posted by c1001z - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:46 PM
europe...pfft...who cares!?!?

USAUSAUSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Ssliasil - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:47 PM
@ AHMEN

Posted by c1001z - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:50 PM
europe...pfft...who cares!?!?

USAUSAUSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by enzospartan - Friday, June 06, 2008 12:59 PM
@Tasomo
agreed.

@ImpurestCrowd
agreed.

Posted by DPsx7 - Friday, June 06, 2008 1:25 PM
Big surprise. The 360 never had anything good to play. Wii has a good assortment and PS3 has several now with more coming. It's just a matter of time before the children realized that FPS's are much better on PC rather than that failing 'box' without a mouse/KB. I guess the US is just slower to recognize crap, thankfully I knew it from the start and never got one. Even though I got a PS3 I've been playing the Wii and PS2 far more. Sony and especially M$ need to learn that games count most, not BS side-features.

Posted by blakseed - Friday, June 06, 2008 1:46 PM
Man that sucks.

Posted by aztecyankee - Friday, June 06, 2008 2:08 PM
First off I don't live in europe and probably never will...Second everyone knows Europeans have never liked anything made in the states (cars,most music,sports...etc etc...Especially the "lets all be in the cool kids club and hate the U.S." sentiment we have had since 2003. What matters to me is U.S. sales. PERIOD. I'm almost certain euro and japanese gamers do not and will not care of U.S.sales. We all know what great jobs ANAList do anyways pppfff!! What no analyst can predict is how simple a redisign and a pricedrop can affect sales. Who new having old tech like DVD-9 can make you a profit per console and still allows you to have pricecut!!!

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, June 06, 2008 2:44 PM
Funny how every time Xbox 360 or Microsoft comes up as being beat or unable to sell enough units somewhere. This GARBAGE comes from some type of Analyst group who ends up being wrong about 100% of the time. Analyst seem to be the only ones always claiming that Xbox 360 is losing sales, yet its the only system with the largest attach rate and the only system with the most online members than any of the other two consoles. The only system making a profit and the only system that’s making third party companies money. The only system where GTA4 sold the most in Europe. The only system with the largest library of games. The only system with the most award winning games, The only system that has with stand Sony's dominance. The only system with the most exclusives this generation. Microsoft and Xbox 360 is doing just fine in 2008 and by the time Christmas comes along, if the Price drops to 199.99, they are going to be doing even better. Time can tell but no Analyst cannot predict.

Posted by pumpkinpunker - Friday, June 06, 2008 2:50 PM
Analysts have been saying a bunch of crap in Sony's favor since the release of the PS3. First, it was the PS3 will overtake the 360 in all markets within a year. now, they've surrendered the US market to the 360 and are claiming Sony will make a turnaround in Europe. I really think Sony is losing big time money so they're spinning heavily in hopes to recoup their loses.

Why would anyone buy the PS3 instead of the 360? The PS3 is more expensive and has mostly inferior looking multi-platformers and fewer exclusives? The only answer is because it's a cheap Blu-Ray player. That means people will buy fewer games for the PS3 and devs will start losing money on their 360 to PS3 ports and stop porting games to the PS3 altogether. Thusly, less games equals eventually PS3 fanboys will break down and buy a 360 anyway.

Posted by boofer - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:01 PM
yeah sony paid this guy $$$$ thats why their games development stalled.....david cole is a sonyfanboy... and o yeah..i live in the USA so that dosent even matter

Posted by LittleWeapon - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:03 PM
@ DPsx7
I was going to sit back and let the flames fly but now u made it to easy. Xbox never had anything good to play? Name PS3 tittles that came out so far that have been so great that you had to buy it."Even though I got a PS3 I've been playing the Wii and PS2 far more." If you rather play your old console more than your current gen console already a couple of years in to the it's life span something is wrong. I will agree though they need to realize game count more above all.

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:08 PM
Funny how every time Xbox 360 or Microsoft comes up as being beat or unable to sell enough units somewhere. This GARBAGE comes from some type of Analyst group who ends up being wrong about 100% of the time. Analyst seem to be the only ones always claiming that Xbox 360 is losing sales, yet its the only system with the largest attach rate and the only system with the most online members than any of the other two consoles. The only system making a profit and the only system that’s making third party companies money. The only system where GTA4 sold the most in Europe. The only system with the largest library of games. The only system with the most award winning games, The only system that has with stand Sony's dominance. The only system with the most exclusives this generation. Microsoft and Xbox 360 is doing just fine in 2008 and by the time Christmas comes along, if the Price drops to 199.99, they are going to be doing even better. Time can tell but no Analyst cannot predict.

Posted by boofer - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:11 PM
when has the ps3 not been in trouble....when it came out with a $600 price tag...or when its exclusives where moved to 360...or when stand alone blu ray players became cheaper

Posted by ironcock - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:25 PM
@pumpkinpenis
the ps3 has fewer exclusives???? okay, we have better ones though. Why would anyone buy an xbox??? i mean at launch i completely understand. but now?? be honest with yourself at least. the xbox is dead tech with ONE truly great exclusive set fo release this year . back to the point, the europeans prefer one console....who cares??? not starting a flamewar over this.

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:34 PM
@ LittleWeapon
Thank you for not being bias like some PS3 fan boys, I don't try to go out of my way to bust on Sony and PS3, I only defend the truth about Xbox 360. Microsoft is doing what Sony did with the PS1 and PS2, what happened to Sony is they took their eye off the ball with PS3. 1.Pricing, 2. The problem with development kits, 3. Securing exclusives, 4. They Marketed bluray instead first instead of marketing PS3 as a gaming system. Games make a system. Nintendo is all about games. Microsoft made a promise and they kept to that promise to deliver games first, movies are just extra. Sony focused on Bluray first and lacked on the gaming side. I want a PS3, but with no real exclusives that I like, I don't need a PS3. When God of War 3 comes out, then I might think about it. I own a PS2 and I love it, but I play my Xbox 360 more. As the years go by the games are getting better. Sony has some real catching up to do in the gaming department. "Analyst" Stop the propaganda!

Posted by I_RRODed_AGAIN - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:36 PM
@santjnthn

All systems are making a profit now and Microsoft was the only company who had to take a billion (or more) dollars to fix broken consoles. The RROD is still around, check the xbox.com hardware forums.
Yes PS3's break too but no where near this many.

http://www.vgchartz.com/ewee kly.php
GTAIV PS3 sold more in Europe.

Posted by Platformermaniac - Friday, June 06, 2008 3:38 PM
@santjnthn
I have to disagree with you on a couple of points. The Wii also sells for a profit and fairly large one at that considering Nintendo is rolling in cash. The Wii has also withstood Sony's dominance and even taken it from them. It took the 360's dominance as well. Also the Wii has more exclusive games than the 360 and PS3 combined as almost every game for the Wii is exclusive due to its unique hardware. I'm not going to debate the quality of the systems or their games. I just wanted to state some simple facts. Also, for all of those people who have been going on about a G4 bias and how they only post negative stories about the PS3, well this a negative article about the 360 so go ahead and put this one on the scorecard.

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, June 06, 2008 4:00 PM
@ ironcock
Dude, to you its dead technology, but to millions of Xbox 360 owners so far don't see it that way. PS3 is a great system, be happy you own it. The reality is, Xbox 360 has many #1 games (Award winning games). A much larger library. There are millions of Xbox 360 owners happy with the system. Dead technology? That's so funny, what do you call Wii's technology? Wii is last generation technology, but they out sell the Xbox 360 and PS3 worldwide. There's more to a great system than technology. Sony messed up. They hire analyst to defend the PS3. Sony has real completion now, that’s reality. It’s n