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Army Criticized For Recruiting Kids

Posted by Mike D'Alonzo - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:07 PM

The ACLU has taken exception with the recruiting tactics of the United States Army, especially the use of the game America's Army, saying that the game encourages kids below the age of 18 to want to join the military before they reach an age of reasonable consent.

The game, they feel, violates the U.N. protocol which requires countries to shield those under 18 from military recruitment, encouraging young kids to want to go to war, the way they play it in the game. Now, we think that, just as always, any kid who has a difficult time discerning what they see on a game from reality deserves what they can get, even if that means a trip to Iraq.

GamePolitics.com: ACLU Criticizes Military Recruitment, including America's Army Game


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Posted by bullet53 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:25 PM
kids dont even play america's army....i mean that game sucks, the military game kids play is cod4 but as you guys said "any kid who has a difficult time discerning what they see on a game from reality deserves what they can get, even if that means a trip to Iraq"

Posted by wag317 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:25 PM
Uh. we need more troops if we're going to invade Iran. It's nice to see the Army using the same tactics as the tobacco companies; hook them while their young.

But in all seriousness. Either you're gonna join when you hit 18 or your not. And the chances are greater if you have family who served in the first place. No game is gonna influence that. Shame on the ACLU to think that children are so impressionable.

Posted by andrew5329 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:39 PM
Really, last time i checked there was a recruitment poster in the freshman dean's office and only 14yrold students end up in there, thats hardly sheilding them.

Posted by sdc10 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:49 PM
Oh please i hope at 14 kid know that america has some sort of armed forces. Im also pretty sure most people make the decision of whether or not their gonna join before they even reach 18. Its not like a kid hits their birthday, turns 18 and wakes up going "you know, ive never thought about it before but i think im gonna sign up for the army today". No, they probably made that decision a long time ago.

Posted by AgentDrickel - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:33 PM
yeah..being in the Army and being in a military family....most people know a long time before they hit 18 that they will join some sort of armed forces...now there are a few who when they are older join up becuase they cant make it with out some stable financial backing and why the hell not...

and don't think if you join the military..especially the Army of Marines when your country is at war that you will not think you have a chance of going to combat and dying...

if you don't know that then DON'T JOIN and screw the chances of someone else coming back home alive up

Posted by kiohto - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:48 PM
the aclu just needs to shut up, theyve done nothing but limit ppls freedoms

Posted by vismortis - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:58 PM
sad part is i work with someone who is just about to turn 18 and some army guy at his school talked to him and now he is not only set on joining but trying to recrut others. before this he never mentioned this at all on the other side i live in a family that is all gun hoe for the armed forces my uncil ( who never was in the armed forces unlike my dad who did navy army marines ) tricked my cusin into enlisting in the marines( who hates it ) and my grandmother hates me cause i choese to go to college
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Posted by SourProphit - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:00 PM
I'm pissed off with all these BS college recruitment commercials on TV. I don't wanna hear about how I can PAY someone $50,000 so I can spend the next 60 years of my life rotting in a cubicle while paying off student loans, why don't they cry about that instead?

Really I agree with you guys so far, I decided I wanted to join back when I was 16.

Posted by Oinkness - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:02 PM
Do you really want a kid who regularly plays the terrorist side in counter-strike to join the military? Can you trust 'em?

Posted by cortomaltesse - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:37 PM
The army recruitment tactics are deplorable and have been for a while.

Is good that someone is complaining about it.

Kids are too expose to the war and are being brainwashed by the Bush regime, they are too young to really understand what is going on and they develop a false sense of patriotism that make them do things that they later regret.

If they want to join the Army, the Marines, etc fine, but they have to do it with a complete understanding of what they are doing if not then we ended up with Marines raping a teenager overseas, or killing one of they own comrades, or throwing puppies off a cliff, etc. You get the idea.

There has to be some decency in the recruitment tactics, some basic ethic. It can’t be recruitment for just sake of recruitment.

Posted by WhereAmI1980 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:01 PM
@vismortis

What you trying to say, everyone in the Army is dumb.
Oh I'm going to college and consisdering joining but only after I finished my degree.

My dad served 22 years(enlisted) and he got his degree, masters, and just finished his Phd.

he couldn't afford school when he was young and now he's about to become a college professor. thanks to the Army.

@cortomaltesse

you need to stfu. its crap like that wants me to find you.

you only hear about the bad things soldiers do. that doesn't mean all of them are like that!!!
the majority are the best people i have ever met.

the army only lowered its standards of recruitment because fewer people are joining.

we inherited our way of life because of willing volunteers to put their lives on the lines.

And then have some dumb@ss like you and insult them because you think you're better then them.
Why don't you join... and bring your class to the military.

Posted by WhereAmI1980 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:06 PM
Oh I Hate what Bush is doing to the military. we can't afford the military fighting all these wars, especially Iraq. we're a military at war, not a nation.

And the ACLU, having been trying to limit people's rights for a long time and they need to stfu as well.

Posted by Mr_Eko_73 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:30 PM
"Ariticle 77- Sec: 2" The Parties to the conflict shall take all feasible measures in order that children who have not attained the age of 15 years do not take a direct part in hostilities and, in particular, they shall refrain from recruiting them into their armed forces. In recruiting among those persons who have attained the age of 15 years but who have not attained the age of 18 years, the Parties to the conflict shall endeavour to give priority to those who are oldest.
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Posted by Mr_Eko_73 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:34 PM
The whole point of the Protocol is to protect children from being recruited into armed warfare. It was established after it was descovered that some of 3rd world countries had children as young as 10 in their armies. The ACLU is taking this totally out of context and when you look deeper into it its really insulting to those suffering under such horrible regimes.

Posted by DoomsdayDevice82 - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:44 PM
Does the ACLU have anything to say about the military recruitment crap on the 360? If they want to try and win some kind of fight at least go after something people actually play.

Posted by RyuSensei - Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:29 PM
I grew up in a military family and I can tell you that recruiters have always had an attitude of "let's see what we can get away with." For obvious reasons, this attitude magnifies during times of tension or war because that's when recruitment rates in all volenteer forces fall through the floor.

The ACLU may be trying to make a statement (they do that a lot)about recruitment practices in general. If so, I'm all for it. If they are strictly going after the AA game, they are wasting as much time as AA wasted taxpayer dollars.

Posted by vonOhzu - Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:29 AM
If you want to get more people for the armed force then get rid of the damn mercs, the tax cuts, and get the enlisted guys better pay and benefit.

Posted by PMantix84 - Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:41 AM
they should just make some new regulation that keeps children inside of a 5' cube until their 18th birthday.. there will be a food receptacle and an internal audio system that will keep their young minds "calm", "peaceful", and most importantly, completely unaware of the real world

Posted by SingleCrow - Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:04 AM
You know what made me want to join the Air Force? The movies "Top Gun" and (the poor man's Top Gun) "Iron Eagle".

My dad was in the army, and the only thing I remember him telling me was about a guy who wanted out so bad that he bit into one of his own turds to be declared insane so he could leave with a dishonerable discharge.

I never got to join the forces because of a heart murmer and my horrible horrible eye sight. But with my technical skills, I probably wouldn't have been allowed to fly anyway.

That's what I have my video games. I can do it all. :-)

Posted by neonchez - Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:14 AM
@kiohto

"the aclu just needs to shut up, theyve done nothing but limit ppls freedoms"

do you know what the ACLU does?
they fight for the rights of the individual.

Posted by WhereAmI1980 - Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:01 AM
^ no they don't, if they had it their way everybody's freedom of speech would be only political correctness.

And if they want to fight for the rights of individuals, ask them about the 2nd Amendment.

And they hate Ron Paul, who to me is the only good politician we have and wants to actually fight for our rights...

Posted by CDAT1AD - Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:19 AM
The American Communist Lifetime Union really needs to be hit with the rico laws and broken up. They do nothing but litigate theor way into getting what they want by picking and choosing their targets based on their ability to pay for a defence. Never mind those leftis bastar ds tried to limit free speech about their own orginization a few years back.

Traitors one and all who should be recruited as mine finders at best.

Posted by learnedfist - Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:50 AM
The UN has no right to infringe on the freedom of speech of Americans. Period.

Moreover, the ACLU's anti-military bias is really shining through here. When scumbag Neo-Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, IL, a city with a large Jewish population still reeling from the horrors of the Holocaust, the ACLU assisted the Neo-Nazis under the banner of the First Amendment. Now, by contrast, US citizens want to enjoy their free speech rights to voluntarily play a military game (which is, constitutionally, akin to reading a book, going to a speech or going to see a movie), but the ACLU wants the game to be banned? How can the ACLU support Neo-Nazi hate speech, but attack this game? Pathetic.

Posted by hetman - Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:22 AM
The ACLU blows. If they believe that american army is an actual affective recruiting tool then maybe they should look at hip hop as being an effective recruiting tool for young kids joining a gang. The ACLU at one time had its priorities right, now they just ramble on because people keep funding them. It is so stupid.

Posted by MutantEnemyMTL - Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:38 AM
Good job ACLU. The military does try to convince people under 18 that they should joint the military. Then at 18 they can join the army but they're not old enough to drink? That's ridiculous.

Personally I think the kids should wait until they have a little more life experience. They need to realize that its the government that decides when they go to war. Given the governments record with lying to the public they can't be trusted.

Posted by jodalmighty - Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:02 AM
Well the feds need to know that they can't have it both ways. They say videogames can influence kids to commit acts of violence and that violent videogames should be kept away from minors and yet they use the americas army games to try and recruit kids under the age of 18. I don't know of anyone personally who after playing a videogame grabbed a gun and shot someone but they'll give you a gun and tell you who to shoot in the military. Seems a little conflicted to me.

Posted by panzerfist - Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:40 AM
I've always kept the idea of going into the service in mind, but as of right now i don't want to join when the military is being so screwed over by the current gov't. That's not to say i'd only join in times of peace, but i have no interest in fighting for these beurocrats. They want to fight so dam bad they should excercise their 2nd Amendment rights themselves, the cowards

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