Search

This site requires that JavaScript be enabled and the Flash plug-in be installed. If you already have Macromedia Flash Player 8 installed, then you may continue browsing the site.

TheFeed

'Mass Effect' PC Copy Protection is Overkill

Posted by Brian Leahy - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:12 AM

Looking forward to Mass Effect on the PC? You better be looking forward to re-validating your CD-Key every 10 days or you won't be able to play it anymore.

Here is BioWare's plan for copy protection:

"Mass Effect PC uses SecuROM which requires an online activation for the first time you play Mass Effect PC after installation. After the first activation, SecuROM requires that it re-check with the server within ten days in order to revalidate the CD key. If it can't contact the server before the 10 days are up, the game still runs and it will re-check until it is successful. If the check is not successfully performed within the 10 day period, Mass Effect will not run until an online check is successful."

Basically, this will punish paying customers while pirates merely circumvent the authentification process altogether (probably). The plan will also allow the game to be activated on 3 PCs at one time.

This almost seems like a Microsoft Windows level of copy protection and we all know how well that works... hint, it doesn't.

Mass Effect on the PC releases on May 27, 2008 and features an updated UI. Check out a Q&A on the copy protection at the BioWare Forums.


Comment(s)


Posted by BobBobson108 - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:33 AM
That's a way to combat piracy that might actually work. Touche.

Posted by ThataUFO - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:33 AM
Damn, thats bullsiht. Are they going to need a blood sample as well?

Posted by Bookshelf - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:36 AM
theres gotta be a better way to fight piracy.

Posted by Bookshelf - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:40 AM
what happens when these servers go offline 20 years from now? can we just never play mass effect again? i say thats some BS.

Posted by Asrugan - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:48 AM
Pity the person who can't connect online on day 10.

Posted by vismortis - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:50 AM
2 issues with this
a what if your pc aint hooked up to the net yes i know its 2008 but still you could be playing on a pc not connected to the net then what!

b) the to crack windows is set it makes it get a false signal back from nowhare so it thinkgs it has been activated when its not so the hackers will break this in oh 2 weeks tops. though they get a 4 out of 100 for thought but being Nazis just put bioware below EA on my list.

Posted by zerg539 - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:59 AM
they just need to use the steam plan for protection and make you create an account and require activation only once and a login still allowing for offline play
Advertisement

Posted by mikefryloc - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:06 AM
that's kinda studpid because you may have interent one day and not the next specially college students. Oh well glad i got it for 360

Posted by Able - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:08 AM
@ Vismortis

All Bioware is doing is trying out a new anti-piracy deal with there game, that is all, it might work, or it wont. Bioware is not any form of a Nazi. They are just trying something to protect their product and trying to make sure they get the mony for said product.

Piracy is bad for any software company. Its like you goto a really good resturant, the food is great and the prices are cheap, then pirates come and steal food from the resturant day after day. the resturant ends up raising the price of the food for the paying customers, but pirates keep taking the food. Then eventuly the resturant closes down because the cost of the food replacement was getting to the point where ppl could not afford. So eventuly the good place with the good food is no more.

So dont dis Bioware for trying out a new anti-piracy deal. They are only trying to make a profit to make more games.

Posted by LJbloaded - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:25 AM
You could just go get it for 360? Just an idea. No fanboying at all.

Posted by DamienHell - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:31 AM
This is going on spore too, wasn't this the security system that all the normal people bitched about, and the pirates (which the system was suppose to protect against) were laughing cause they broke it in a couple days

Posted by cogadh - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:40 AM
Sure piracy is bad, but this is definitely a case of the solution being worse than the problem. A bad idea is still a bad idea and BioWare and SecuROM deserve the blame for this incredibly bad idea (SecuROM for coming up with it, BioWare for using it). I think this one is actually worse than the copy protection they put on BioShock and look how successful that was. zerg539 is right, they need to just give up on this whole idea and switch to a system similar to Valve's Steam platform. At least that is incredibly unobtrusive and still allows you to play your games without an internet connection. The worst part is, there is no way this will even work, the pirate crackers will always be less than a few days behind any new copy protection technology.

Posted by travelmaps - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:16 PM
hey FEED! heres a new article headline:

PC Gaming the New Music Industry?

yay for *TRYING* to stop so much pirating but its not going to work. these stupid systems where you have to be online to play your single player game is crap. i shouldnt have to connect to someones website to play their game.

this is a very scary direction to be taking that is going to lead down a road of more and more restrictions on the BUYER and more rights being sucked away.

PS systems like steam and the ea downloader are BS annoying piles of useless that do nothing but suck up space on your task bar and waste your time. Really so now to play my games i need the ea downloader, steam and at least 2 other taskbar programs for other publishers and probably that stupid gamespy comrade, god forbid you have an antivirus and firewall, your sound controls, internet connectivity icon, your hopefully only 1 messenger and video card drivers. thats more than 10 right there.

Woot.
Advertisement

Posted by hardwirecars - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:19 PM
yep pirate will have this beat hell they got past ms guinuen check np this will be a cake walk

till we are allowed to rent a game for the pc i will be ok with piracy becuse what the game companys do to us is just as bad

Posted by Fx_Avatar - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:56 PM
You know, This is just going to hurt, and limit there customer base. I have family that live out where internet is not only hard to get, but just this side of imposable. They get cell service, but to have to run a land line out to there house is to costly (and really, who wants dial up anyways). For them, they just play single player games. This game, the idea that you must check with there server every 10 days is BS. The posters here have it right, the pirates that they want to stop will bypass this, and those like me and ones like my family will have to deal with there over zealous bs.

Really, what this is going to do, is to force those that would normally not think about cracking there game.. to become pirates.. just to get what they PAID for..
And as for the steam system.. you have steam.. EA.. how many other random apps do I need running all the time, just to play games..

Posted by everlastinggaze - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:17 PM
@hardwirecars

What are the game companies "Doing to you"? If you don't like it, don't play it. They are games, not food. Not a necessity, so if it's too expensive for you, just don't play it. You don't have the right to steal it.
Go for a walk. Read a book from the library. Those are free. But don't steal. If you steal, then you suck.

Posted by bleahy - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:23 PM
@travelmaps,

Game piracy has been around for a long, long time. It's not new.

Posted by altizar - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:28 PM
this is actually going to increase piracy.

Honestly You take and install the game, then go to a hack site to download the 10K crack that bypasses the check and boom your good to go.

Previously maybe 1 out of 10 people went to the hack site to pirate the game. Due to constant harrasment, 7 out of 10 will go so they can actually play the game when they want with out hassle.

Problem #2 It's 6 months later and BioWare has been bought by another company and changed thier name. So your copy goes to the intranet looking for bioware.com and won't play because it can't find that name anymore, you now have a Coaster.

Problem #3 It's 5 years later and BioWare decides they don't want to pay for the re-curring cost of operating the server to authenticate your game anymore, you now have a Coaster.

Posted by pittruler - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:28 PM
i know guys who work on offshore boats for 3 weeks at a time they bring thier laptops with them so they have something to do in thier down time they cant access internet so thier games will not work this is a bad idea

Posted by vismortis - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:47 PM
@Able you dont tell me you never downloaded a game even a old one lets add to altizar number 4 its 6 years latter your disk is smashed you cant find one to buy yet you still want to play the game now what.
im sure there are people that still play Goldeneye JKA TES III but good luck finding one for a un inflated price online and stores wont have them. yet in this case your number wont activate a new disk.
i dont download new games but after i bought it if something breaks yeah expecialy if its older i wont pay $60 for KOTOR aganin!

Posted by Able - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:17 PM
@ Vismortis

Acctuly unlike many other ppl i still have all my games for my PC packed nice and fine in there original package. I might not play all of them now a days but i still have them. I also have lots of other programs i paid for and have patches i saved from each company that passed them out for said products. Any upgrade or patch I needed i was still able to get. I just know where to look.

I buy every game i want to play and buy every program i want to use for the conveniance of having customer support from the company i got the product from, and any other free bit they offer me without the fear of keylogging, spyware ridden, virus laden websites.

But as for downloading/pireting games, I have not. Most of the time the games out there that a can pirate are ether old and dont hold intrest for me, or are just not worth getting.

Posted by cryfordawn - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:23 PM
You should see the offical thread and its 45+ pages long on people saying they are NOT going to buy this game because of this crap. Once again EA shoots itself in the foot to bring them 1 step closer to going UNDER! Death to EA!

http://masseffect.bioware.co m/forums/viewtopic.html?topic= 628724&forum=125&sp=0

Posted by jahlov420 - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:06 PM
its so funny. Hack the Planet. piracy can't be stopped. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! i'm laughing my ass off right now. they really think they are gonna stop people from getting past pc games piracy. they MIGHT be able to stop some Uber-noobs they can't read the cracking directions. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Posted by Rooster7787 - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:49 PM
Well, that's a game I can cross off my "to-buy" list. Too much trouble.

Posted by icekingdom - Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:17 AM
if I buy it and I'm consider just pirateing the thing because of this, I will crack it and won't have to deal with this. they are forgeting why pirating is posible people change the code to get rid of the protection. no matter the number of time it has to be activated, this will just keep non piraters from buying there game. It took almost 2 weeks to get a good crack for Bioshock, yes I pirated it, I liked it, I baught it. I like the try before you buy mentality.

Posted by icekingdom - Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:19 AM
Also I baught the steam portal and have it on my laptop, can't play in I can't log into steam. Again something I paid for I'm cracking

Posted by icekingdom - Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:23 AM
ps the point about the 2 weeks to get a good bioshock crack was saying the copy protection was good enouph that it took that long.

Posted by lawnmower16 - Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:03 AM
That's bullcrap! I remember when I didn't even have an internet connection and this would've pissed me off terribly!

So what they are saying is, if you are not connected to the internet, you don't have the right to play this game.

FAIL.

Posted by Bellamorte - Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:40 AM
@Able

How many years will Steam keep its servers up & running?

I'd be extremely vexed if a game I'd bought & payed for stopped working for such reasons...

Posted by nomoss - Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:24 AM
I went through this with Bioshock too. I purchased 2 copies at Christmas, 1 for myself and 1 for my brother. However, before I opened my own copy, I found out about their draconian policy. So, I returned both copies and bought COD4 instead.

I was planning to purchase Mass Effect, but having learned my lesson, I waited for the review. EA keeps doing this, so they will soon be losing my gaming dollars.

Since I spend about $3000 a year on PC games for myself and family, that's a small dent, I'm sure.

Posted by RottenRonnie - Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:44 PM
I hate to say it, but I can now see PC games going away for sure. Might as well throw your gaming PC out the window and buy a PS3. I have feared that consoles would take over one day, this is just one more nail in the coffin IMO. With this new anti-piracy system no one is going to want to buy the games that use it. Why would they? What a hassle! Other people on here have made very good points. What if someone doesn't have internet? Are companies not gonna care that they lose customers or force them to pay for internet that they don't need? And what if you lose your internet? Are they saying that now we MUST pay for an internet connection to play their games? even if we don't use the internet? And I do agree that hackers will find a way around it. I think this new system is a load of crap and will only make things worse. I am against piracy and I do believe that you should pay and help support the software companies but this is just rediculous. It's a BAD move. VERY BAD move. BOOOOOO!

Posted by Carpeljet - Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:12 PM
yeah...at this point it will be more trouble to buy the game legaly then to download a cracked version. not to mention it's gonna cost you money. good plan.

that is all.

You must Login or Register to post.