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Take-Two Offers 12-Step 'GTA IV' PS3 Fix

Posted by Brian Leahy - Friday, May 02, 2008 2:32 PM

Having trouble with GTA IV on the PS3? Take-Two has proposed a 12-step process to help you out. Here it is:

Please run through the following, go through in order.

1) Delete the game's install data. This is done via the PS3 options. Scroll along the cross media bar until you reach the 'Game' tab, now scroll up / down the list until you reach the 'Game Data Utility' Enter this and locate the GTA IV option. Highlight this and press triangle once, from the menu select Delete. This will delete the game's install information.

2) Delete the game's save files. To delete any save files you will need to do the following. Scroll along the cross media bar until you reach the 'Game' tab, now scroll up / down the list until you reach the 'Save Data Utility' Enter this and locate the GTA IV option. Highlight this and press triangle once, and from the context menu select Delete.

3) Disable your Internet connectivity for the PS3. To do this scroll along the cross media bar until you reach the 'Settings' tab, now scroll up / down the list until you reach the 'Network Settings'. Now scroll down to the Internet connection option and press x, now select the disable option. Once this has been done unplug the ethernet cable if you are connecting to the Internet if using this.

4) Disable the console's information board. To do this scroll along the cross media bar until you reach the 'Network' tab, now scroll up / down the list until you reach the 'Information Board', highlight this and press triangle. From the menu select 'Do not display' Press X to confirm this.

5) Disable Media Server functionality. Scroll to Settings, now scroll up / down to 'Network Settings' select Media Server connection. Once this has been done press triangle and change the option Disabled.

6) Delete all of the system's Internet cache. To do this scroll along the cross media bar until you reach the 'Network' tab, now scroll up / down the list until you reach the 'Internet Browser', highlight this and press X. Once you browser opens press the triangle button once, from the new menu highlight the 'Tools' option and press X. Scroll down the menu until you reach 'Delete Cookies' and press X. Confirm the files deletion. Repeat this for 'Delete Cache'.

7 ) Turn off the PS3 screen saver. Use the cross media bar to scroll to 'Settings', select 'Display Settings'. Now highlight 'Screensaver' and set this to 'Do not use'.

8 ) Once this has been done, manually restart you PS3 by holding down the power button for 5 seconds it will beep once and then shut down. Release the power button and re-press it and hold for about 5 seconds. The system will then boot and reset all display settings. You will be prompted to reset your display settings to how you require them.

9) Once restarted please try the game again, you will be prompted to reinstall.

Once the game has started please turn off the following features:

1) The game's auto-save. Press Start, Game, and locate the Auto-save option. Turn this off.

2) Turn off the game's flicker filter. Press Start, Display and locate the Flicker Filter option. Turn this off.

3) Turn off the controller vibration feature. Press Start, Controls and locate the vibration option. Turn this off.

GameSpot: Take-Two suggests PS3 GTAIV fix




Comment(s)

Posted by ichaboddanger - Friday, May 2, 2008 2:56 PM

seriously? glad i bought a 360 instead of a PC. oh wait this is for PS3? lol can't tell.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 2:56 PM

Hi Mr Leahy

Ok here we go, (F)or yo(U) to (C)ontinue to post just (K)ills me inside. Hopefull(Y) y(O)u will apologize for yo(U)r grievance against our community.

U c wut I did thar Mr. Leahy?

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Friday, May 2, 2008 2:57 PM

Easiest fix:

Throw PS3 out the window and
buy a 360.

Posted by hetman - Friday, May 2, 2008 2:57 PM

I have a 3 part fix that is way easier and quiker than that.
1)Sell ps3 on ebay, or pawn shop
2)buy a 360 and GTAIV
3) Play GTAIV

Posted by bleahy - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:01 PM

@gahaz,

I'm posting an official statement from Take-Two on the matter.

It is a neutral article and doesn't bad mouth the PS3 at all.

Grow up.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:02 PM

Perhaps instead of ragging on the PS3 you could rag on R* for releasing a game bugged. You didn't see Wii people bashing 360 people when they got the copy of Bully that worked better than the 360 version? Perhaps we should be up in arms against a publisher that has now put out 2 games bugged right outta the box.

I could be wrong, but I can't get too wrapped up, lovin GTA on my PS3, just unlocked the 3rd island. So great.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:05 PM

@Bleahy,
Aye, that you are, but you have drawn the line in the sand, as it were. If you ucan come on a website and bash something openly, then be prepared to have it handed back. How would it look if Kotaku came out and trashed one system over the other? They would get burnt. Just tossin a little bit back to you.

Whats the matter, is a no face on the internet bothering you?

Posted by P_Reston - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:05 PM

Well Said Bleahy. Well Said.

Posted by xjohn - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:09 PM

I buy all game for my xbox 360 anyway. My ps3 dont get much use.

Posted by Redd75 - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:11 PM

@gahaz
You do know that Leahy owns a ps3 right? He was just expressing his feelings toward it's slow start, methinks. Chill out.

My copy of GTA froze on me Tue. night, and I haven't had a problem since. I don't know about this whole multi-step process thing...

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:13 PM

I know, but he went out of his way to stir up shiz, and so I'll help him feel it. When we get a "sorry man, I went out of line for no reason" I'll give it up.

Posted by bleahy - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:36 PM

It was a joke in our Epic Fail feature.
Those joke features are the only time that I express any fanboyism because they are a joke.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:39 PM

All right all right. I'll see it. But you have to admit, everyone else that answered the epic fail feature went for an actual crappy movie, and you flayed the fanboy corpse.

All right. Ill take it and go, please disregard my other posts, delete them if you can. Just tell me one thing and things can be forgiven.

San Andreas or GTA4, which is the better game?
(I was at the bar last night arguing this question with my friends.)

Posted by KnuxSonic - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:40 PM

What a hassle, why not just patch it?

Posted by Letters2Kay - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:42 PM

It was not funny. "Grow up." Your quote.

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:43 PM

12 steps... too funny.. Here are my 12 steps...

1. Take the PS3
2. Clear an area in the middle of your living room or where ever you can find to clear up..
3. take a hammer.
4. and hit it.
5. again
6. again
7. again
8. again
9. again
10. again
11. again
12. Then throw that damn system away and buy your self a 360, stop the madness and get your self a real gaming system. Stop trying to ticker around with your bluray player that just happens to play game.

Posted by jnights - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:46 PM

How did he "stir up shiz"? I dont see it.

Posted by random_luigi07 - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:48 PM

hey bleahy is that cartoon show in GTA4 a HALO parody...The Republican Space Rangers...lmao theres some pretty funny stuff on TV.

Posted by Letters2Kay - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:50 PM

RE: The "fix"

Sounds like they can't figure out the problem so they're just telling you to do everything that could possibly make a difference. Try this before you delete all your data:

#4 Disable Info Board (who uses this regularly?)
#5 Disable Media Servers
#6 Delete Internet Cahce (why not? couldn't hurt)
#7 Turn off the Screen Saver

I've had no problems with the game whatsoever on my 60 gig and these are things I'd already done with my console before playing GTA4 on it. Hope that helps someone.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:50 PM

santjnthn,

But what the 360 I already own and had to send back 4 times and now am frightened to even power it on and is sitting unused till GoW2 comes out?

Real gaming system? What makes it a real gaming system? The fact that it has a failure rate that is ridiculous? Perhaps is the fact that its kinda like a PC because they come out with a new one every 7 months that you need for the "ultimate" experience? Perhaps its for Halo? Oh wait, people are already rather done with it and more people play CoD4, a multiplatform game, on Live?

Posted by Redd75 - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:52 PM

Not sure why there's any 360 owners in this thread...wait, yeah I do, but I'll be nice.
Didn't G4 report that GTA was freezing some 360's as well?

Posted by daxterdanny123 - Friday, May 2, 2008 3:58 PM

its not the ps3 its the game they didnt edited the game good on the ps3 but mine works so good..

Posted by the_sparrow666 - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:10 PM

1.stand on left foot
2. take off underwear and place on outside of pants
3. take right hand and punch self in the face

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:14 PM

@ gahaz

The new 360's that are out on the market does not suffer from the RRoD.. The new systems all have the HDMI. You will be fine if you can get your hands on the 360 with the cooler running board. Here is a step for all you fools who own a 360. Stop cramping your system with other equipment the puts out heat... That goes for any system, PC's too. If your system and other equipment makes the temperature of your home go up, then that means you need better ventilation. BTW... 360 RuleZ... GTA4 RuleZ

Posted by bleahy - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:14 PM

GTA 4 is better than San Andreas.

Republican Space Rangers is a joke about Halo.

Do you guys want me to make fun of the 360? I will if you really really want me to.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:20 PM

So Santjnthn, I am supposed to buy a new 360 for HDMI and not to have to worry about RRoD?

And bleahy, all will be forgiven, hugs all around, if you make fun of the intellivision.

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:26 PM

@ Redd75

Let me answer your question... NO... G4 did not report any freezing problems with the Xbox 360 version of GTA4. Here is why. PS3 has to load some of the game on the Hard drive to reduce the loading time because the bluray player only runs at 2x's. The Xbox 360 version can play right off the disc and does not need to load anything onto the hard drive to reduce loading time, only the file needed to save the game or to let you play online.

Posted by gahaz - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:27 PM

Santjnthn,

There are 360 versions freezing in the exact same spot. Thanks for your rampant misinformation.

Posted by mercisan - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:30 PM

@bleahy
No. Don't do it man. I beg you. Resist the temptation. Sony fanboys are trying to puppet with you.

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:35 PM

@ gahaz

Dude, the problem with PS3 in my opinion is that it focused on Bluray first. Not the gaming and so far even with the 360 problems, Xbox still leads and Sony still follows behind. The next big problem is development. Been said many, many times, yet all fanboys can say is that developers are being lazy, no it’s not about being lazy, it’s about the problems trying to developed for the PS3 and the cell to work perfectly for games. There have been instances where games would glitch out. Big games like Lair, Assassins Creed and so on. I like the PS3, but Sony did not focus on games the first time around. It was all about the bluray player and then all sorts of hype. Even Drakes Uncharted was nothing to write home about. So yea, Microsoft is about gaming. 360 is a gaming system. It’s all about the games and only games. The movie parts are just the extras.

Posted by Needles_kane - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:38 PM

dude why's everyone gettin so worked up over this BS. it's a friggin game grow up! I love my ps3, haven't had one bloody problem with it and I got it right after Christmas. so everyone who's sayin "oh sony sux and their system locks up and has no good games" needs to pull their head outta Microsux ass and see the light

Posted by mercisan - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:45 PM

Man. That's a lot of work to reinstall a single game. It sounds as bad as removing a virus from a computer. And you loose all your progress. That sucks.

Posted by cryfordawn - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:48 PM

HAHAHHAAH you mean people bought this for PS3? Funny how 360 sold double the amount of doesnt have this issue.. LOL

Stop 13. Drop kick your POS PS3 and buy a real system like the 360

Posted by sinister6972 - Friday, May 2, 2008 4:53 PM

So, wait a minute. The PS3 one doesn't work??? Well, mines works pretty good and as a matter of fact, I got both of them in the 360 and PS3! LOL!!! By the way, is that a waste of money???? Well, in the words of "Mr. Dakota" in CodeMonkeys, this is what I'll say.....


"This ain't a vote of confidence, this is my money!!!" LOL!!!

Posted by demby123 - Friday, May 2, 2008 5:04 PM

lets make a deal with bleahy...
if he can make an entire article flaming the 360,
sony fanboys here MUST forgive EVERY anti-sony article or comment for the month of may

Posted by jahlov420 - Friday, May 2, 2008 5:05 PM

really retarted...i'm glad my 60gb ps3 only froze once for the 20+ hours i've played gta4

Posted by santjnthn - Friday, May 2, 2008 5:06 PM

Funny how PS3 fans get so sensitive when it’s all about the PS3 messing up, yet they have no problem saying...OOOOO RRoD... OOOOOO Halo sux.. OOOOO you have to pay for your online gaming. Those are the people who have no idea how much fun, no matter the problems. How much fun the Xbox 360 experience is, Even the online game play, the achievement, the gamer score, the DLC since the beginning, The library of games. Once you get passed the entire BS and realize that the Xbox 360 is more than just a gaming system, it a community, it’s a connection with friends. It's the system with the highest number of #1 games in history the year of 2007. The Xbox 360 is the better system and it can only get better and better. 2008 is looking bright.

Posted by mrgrim357 - Friday, May 2, 2008 5:24 PM

its a problem on both systems rockstar even said
it so stop the flaming

Posted by MrBig200 - Friday, May 2, 2008 6:37 PM

ahh yes here comes the X-bots here to rag on the PS3 even tho this isn't even a wide spread problem since my PS3 and my friend's PS3 plays GTA4 like a dream.

Posted by malaaw - Friday, May 2, 2008 6:48 PM

13 millions sold and counting (next dreamcast my ass ), let the haters hate

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, May 2, 2008 6:51 PM

@bleahy

Man, just keep doin what you are doing. I have read posts of yours that make me think that you are a fanboy of either console. To me, that sounds like you are a GameWhore!!!! which is a good thing:)

Also, did I miss your second part of MGS4 or have you not wrote it yet?

Posted by smh_theory - Friday, May 2, 2008 7:24 PM

just had a freezing issue pop up after several days of trouble free carjacking on my 60 gig ps3. I followed all of the steps, except for deleting my game saves :), and it worked fine.

also, relevant only to the 360 owners who popped in to comment, "Microsoft has not yet responded to GameSpot's inquiries on problems with the Xbox 360 edition of the game. GameSpot editors have yet to receive a response to a Take-Two tech support ticket filed for that version of the game."
if you are having trouble its better to have a ps3 and get an answer rather than get silence from the microsoft end of things.

Posted by 1mikeg - Friday, May 2, 2008 7:25 PM

Heh, looks like GTA4 on PS3 has defeated the only reason for choosing console over PC games. Hooray, we're trouble shooting hardware to play console games now!!! Everything has suddenly become ubiquitous. Prepare to be assimilated.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Friday, May 2, 2008 7:36 PM

i'm sorry fanboys, but this is really serious news for ps3 gta fans. no one is just blatantly making this up as much as your far warped minds want you to think. this is real and i suggest you either sell your system or boycott rockstar games in the future. the choice is yours.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Friday, May 2, 2008 7:39 PM

and to make it even worse, they don't even get the TROPHIES they were promised!

keep your heads up

Posted by Carpeljet - Friday, May 2, 2008 8:22 PM

so...they're having you turn off background applications? the ps3 isn't powerful enough to run both the background applications and the game? wtf?

Posted by JACKMEOFF - Friday, May 2, 2008 8:23 PM

i cant wait for developers to focus on the ps3 mainly so these type of mishaps wont happen until then the ps3 true greatness will not be seen i mean think about it resistance FOM ratchet and clank uncharted basicly all of the ps3 exclusivs came out trouble free this muti platform crap is just dumbing the ps3s ability to match the xbox360 its a real shame

Posted by Bookshelf - Friday, May 2, 2008 8:25 PM

@1mikeg
dude... we've been doing this forever. from clean discs to cleaning laser lenses to blowing into cartrages to getting cleaning kits for them to unplugging and plugging back in to resetting.... trouble shooting exists for EVERYTHING. dumbass...

Posted by SkeeteRX8 - Friday, May 2, 2008 8:29 PM

Honestly....quit flaming, half of us are over 17 yet we sound like immature middle-schoolers...If you don't have anything constructive to say, just keep your mouth shut. Also, since when does having a small minority of system freezes on both systems constitute a HUGE failure. Don't you flamers have anything better to do?

Posted by typical_sony_fanboy - Friday, May 2, 2008 8:48 PM

gahaz

there was no arguing until you got here im serious

Posted by prunty3 - Friday, May 2, 2008 8:53 PM

I don't understand why anyone would buy this game for their Blue Ray player anyway given the superiority of XBox Live and the upcoming down loadable content. And by the way is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about how powerful the almighty gaystation is, if only the developers could just utilize the power. Every single multi-platform game looks just as good on XBox and usually with less bugs. None of the playsation exclusives live up to the hype yet I keep hearing about how much better the games are going to be. At this rate they wont have a superior game for the playstation until the time the next generation of consoles come out.

Posted by Druthekilla - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:03 PM

Although I freely bash Sony fanboys, I am not an Xbot. By which I mean I don't even own an X360, and I *still* find the PoS3 repulsive, repugnant, re..um..-trash, and reaally...uh.. ghey. :D

Posted by ABYSSAL - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:05 PM

Heres my 3 step program,

1) grab your ps3

2) sell it to a pawnshop

3) sell all your ps3 and try to get enough for a 360 and buy the 360 version of GTA4 and wallah! you can play GTA4 with no problems

Posted by DPsx7 - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:06 PM

Please. The world knows the 360 is only for the poor and stupid. That's why we see so many kids trying to claim it doesn't suck. PS3 has better games and better hardware. Just learn the facts and stop the fanboy crap.

Even if you don't learn, the Wii has run over both consoles. So if you're making fun of a console for doing better perhaps you'd like to change your tune.

Posted by Bookshelf - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:16 PM

yeahhh, i tried playing gta4 just a few minutes ago and at first it failed to load my saved game. so after restarting it, it froze half way through a mission. but is this really a suprise for GTA games? they have always been glitchy and froze often. so not really a big deal.

Posted by Bookshelf - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:29 PM

omg!!! the game will not start!! guess ill have to reinstall!! WTF R*?!?!

Posted by Bookshelf - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:46 PM

"I got GTA on Sunday and it freezes and I have to restart the console it happens every hour or so, I thought it may be a dodgy disc, so I took the disc back to the shop and got a new one and almost 40 mins into the game and it froze on me again.

This is really annoying especially when playing online, my console is fine (360) all my other games work perfectly well it only happens on GTA is anyone else getting this ?"

yeah so ps3 users are not the only ones having problems.

Posted by misanthrope09 - Friday, May 2, 2008 9:49 PM

I've only played this on the Lamestation3 and haven't seen any glithes/freezes to be honest. If 360 is having the same problems then why has youtube experienced few 360 freeze uploads? ----just offer a patch for both instead of following that essay posted

Posted by ajdbomb - Friday, May 2, 2008 10:14 PM

@santjnthn

I know that this is more of an aint it cool thing but man if I had to place my money on it I would say that you are a plant.

Who honestly, besides the wonderful people at microsoft, say lines such as

"the Xbox 360 is more than just a gaming system, it a community"

or

"The Xbox 360 is the better system and it can only get better and better. 2008 is looking bright."

Xbox-360 does indeed rule, but no person in their right minds actually talk like that. Here is a tip before you cash your paycheck, talk more casually next time.

Posted by djHaQ - Friday, May 2, 2008 11:19 PM

Yeah I'm totally going to delete all my data. Right.

Posted by dillybar - Friday, May 2, 2008 11:43 PM

@staychisel
"i'm sorry fanboys, but this is really serious news for ps3 gta fans. no one is just blatantly making this up as much as your far warped minds want you to think. this is real and i suggest you either sell your system or boycott rockstar games in the future. the choice is yours."


Ohhhh noes, my game froze!1!!111!! Everyone should boycott Rockstar now. I mean, come on...they have had like 3 whole days to fix this, lets boycott them because they must be being lazy!

Yeah that about seems like your reasoning, you fncking moron

Posted by fujikoto - Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:47 AM

I did all that myself when gta4 would lock up when loading and I couldn't even play the game. Worked I guess. I'm a mind reader.

Posted by cndgamer - Saturday, May 3, 2008 2:47 AM

Hey all these pS3 Copies are having trouble, just wait til all the xbox gets rrod then who's laughing now? nice

Posted by cndgamer - Saturday, May 3, 2008 2:50 AM

Hey all these pS3 Copies are having trouble, just wait til all the xbox gets rrod then who's laughing now? nice

Posted by cndgamer - Saturday, May 3, 2008 2:51 AM

ha 33% failure rate on x360, after gt4, failure rate = 100% of all the new gt4 x360 owners. nice

Posted by cndgamer - Saturday, May 3, 2008 2:55 AM

all the people who bash "sony" on this forum either works for ms or just bunch of idiots living at home who have no clue what a home media center is and how having one system that serves it all is really important. so grow up, go buy a house and come back and see how x360 is a piece of garbage that are as reliable as a pintos.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:33 AM

it's a shame ps3 can't run the game w/out having to disable all of those features. it really makes you wonder how "powerful" it really is.

Posted by KDollaz - Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:43 AM

Oh well I'm having a lovely time getting s@&ked off in my car lol P.S. Sony,if not Sony! Rockstar get your s%&t together but I'm enjoying my 360 copy so its all the way together on this end.

Posted by santjnthn - Saturday, May 3, 2008 8:02 AM

@ cndgamer

100% crappy system = PS3 w/GTA4
100% Sucky games = PS3 and its exclusives

Posted by santjnthn - Saturday, May 3, 2008 8:13 AM

@ cndgamer

Everyone Bashing Sony are bad, bad boys and girls.. You all have to calm down... Sony fanboys can't take this abuse any longer. They all know that they purchased an over hyped system that does nothing better than Xbox 360, they all know that they purchased a bluray player that just happpens to play games. Look, GTA4 is great on Xbox 360, there are really no big reports about freezing as their are for the PS3, but oh well, we have our up and down and they will too. Xbox 360 still rulez.

Posted by bam4577 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 8:49 AM

ok my ps3 wouldnt load the game after i saved tunnle of death. however instead of following the 12 steps i deleted the game utility, disabled media bar, turned of screen saver, and reset ps3 and it loaded fine after, right were i left off.

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 8:50 AM

@staychisel
why do you always make fanboy statements like that?

I played gta4 for FLAWLESSLY for hours straight with everything enabled ZERO PROBLEMS. the second i hit mission 18 the game continually freezes. ITS THE GAME! there needs to be a patch or something to fix this.

Posted by deleted_C500C119-53DD-4584-B8AF-983D528528D8 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 9:07 AM

hey i got 360 version of gta and it wont load any ideas on how to fix this problem help plz

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 9:10 AM

@emk2008
1.make sure your 360 didn't scratch the bottom of your disc.
2.try taking out your hard drive.
3.if those didn't help then i have no idea. i don't even own a 360.

Posted by Twitchin - Saturday, May 3, 2008 9:49 AM

I had read the problems were mostly with the 60GB. I have an 80GB, and I cannot load auto-saves. Yes, disabling auto-saves gets me around it. But does anyone really want to go back to the apartment every time they need to save?

Posted by Twitchin - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:20 AM

I had read the problems were mostly with the 60GB. I have an 80GB, and I cannot load auto-saves. Yes, disabling auto-saves gets me around it. But does anyone really want to go back to the apartment every time they need to save?

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:50 AM

my 60gb is so bad ass though. its over a year old!! im so proud of it!!!

Posted by hartattack - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:02 AM

so im pretty amused with this whole argument about which system is better. i'm still rocking my 6 year old ps2, and you know what? i've never once had a problem with it, has never froze on me, not once. and how about everyone saying that ps3 won't have any good games? wait till FFXIII comes out, then you'll be creaming yourself with how f'n incredible it will be. and it won't even be for 360. sure 360 owners brag about what it can do and the same goes for the ps3 people, but if they both had the same features there wouldn't be a point to having both out in the market. so they're different, just F'N deal with alright because i'm getting sick of hearing about all this BS. different systems, different features.

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:08 AM

@hartattack
for real. different. Sony hardware has always been rock solid reliable.

Posted by joekickass555 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:29 AM

all i did was take out the disc of the main power and ond it again an put the disc bac in. that worked fine. so idk wtf these crazy people are doing making a 12 step program which basically deletes everything on ur ps3. tard monkeys.

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:32 AM

yeah i finally got my game working again. it wasn't my ps3 at all. it was just that mission "Logging on" that kept freezing the game. i went to a different mission and ive been playing for 3 hours today without a hitch.

Posted by hartattack - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:40 AM

so im pretty amused with this whole argument about which system is better. i'm still rocking my 6 year old ps2, and you know what? i've never once had a problem with it, has never froze on me, not once. and how about everyone saying that ps3 won't have any good games? wait till FFXIII comes out, then you'll be creaming yourself with how f'n incredible it will be. and it won't even be for 360. sure 360 owners brag about what it can do and the same goes for the ps3 people, but if they both had the same features there wouldn't be a point to having both out in the market. so they're different, just F'N deal with alright because i'm getting sick of hearing about all this BS. different systems, different features.

Posted by kellyjinva - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:50 AM

It doesnt work...many of us cant even get to the games settings before the freezing occurs either

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:55 AM

@kellyjinva
reinstall the game, as soon as it loads up, save your game in a new slot. quit the game and delete the old save data along with the "profile" save data

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:26 PM

just seems like a lot of work to play one game..even then you can't get online so what's the point? if you were to get DLC you wouldn't even be able to use it.

Posted by Twitchin - Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:36 PM

LOG OUT OF PSN !!!!!!

Fixes loading problems + Freezing issues.

The loading problems have nothing to do with the save files, DO NOT DELETE them.

Unfortunately, you cannot play online without logging in. Surely there will be a patch coming soon.

Posted by Twitchin - Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:50 PM

LOG OUT OF PSN !!!!!!

Fixes loading problems + Freezing issues.

The loading problems have nothing to do with the save files, DO NOT DELETE them.

Unfortunately, you cannot play online without logging in. Surely there will be a patch coming soon.

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:51 PM

@staychisel

there are plenty of 360 users having problems too. its the game so quit being a dick. seriously no one wants to hear what you have to say.

by the time we all get DLC these issues will be fixed so don't even bring DLC into the situation. seeing thats the only thing 360 users can use and you don't even have it yet! honestly...

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:52 PM

@staychisel

there are plenty of 360 users having problems too. its the game so quit being a dick. seriously no one wants to hear what you have to say.

by the time we all get DLC these issues will be fixed so don't even bring DLC into the situation. seeing thats the only thing 360 users can use and you don't even have it yet! honestly...

Posted by shock3755 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 1:01 PM

My friends Xbox bricked 2 minutes into putting the game in. The 360 is dumb. The game is glichy get over it.

Posted by J_BIZ - Saturday, May 3, 2008 1:56 PM

Look, I'm a 360 owner, I've tried this game on both consoles and I've found it can indeed get glitchy on both. Now how bad it may get will vary from console but the point is this game isn't perfect on either console, SORRY ! When you guys talk about the PS3 and 360 its like you were the ones who invinted them or something. In the end it really doesn't matter at all which is better, SO FOR THE LOVE OF ALMIGHTY GOD GET OVER IT ! ! !

Posted by GoldenArms951 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 2:10 PM

Like Twitchin said,

DON'T DELETE. JUST LOG OUT OF THE PSN.
:(



R.I.P. Vlad

Posted by Valentinog - Saturday, May 3, 2008 2:21 PM

Yup, just like Twitchin mention...Dont delete anything! Just disable the online for ur PS3 an GTA IV should be working fine. No multiplayer but just wait for the Patch

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Saturday, May 3, 2008 3:15 PM

i just feel sorry for you guys, that's all.

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 3:26 PM

@staychisel
feel sorry? xbox 360 has just as many problems, i feel sorry for the people who cant play gta yet because their 360 is in the shop. now that really has to suck balls. but yeah, thats too bad for you guys.

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:09 PM

I feel bad for the ps3 players because gta4 isnt high def for ps3. but it is for the 360..oops..my bad. but thats too bad for you guys

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:36 PM

@LM1213
halo3 aint either, and its an exclusive. thats even more sad.

Posted by hartattack - Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:55 PM

so im pretty amused with this whole argument about which system is better. i'm still rocking my 6 year old ps2, and you know what? i've never once had a problem with it, has never froze on me, not once. and how about everyone saying that ps3 won't have any good games? wait till FFXIII comes out, then you'll be creaming yourself with how f'n incredible it will be. and it won't even be for 360. sure 360 owners brag about what it can do and the same goes for the ps3 people, but if they both had the same features there wouldn't be a point to having both out in the market. so they're different, just F'N deal with alright because i'm getting sick of hearing about all this BS. different systems, different features.

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:06 PM

@bookshelf
its sad that its freezing for the ps3 and its suppose to be sooooo powerful and its not even running it in high def. and your right..halo wasnt in high def. (not that I care I dont play halo) so a non high def game outsold any and every ps3 exclusive..you right that is sad wow not even high def and it rocked it. I can see how sad that is..lol

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:18 PM

your right about the sub high def thing though bookshelf. but i'll make a deal with you. you tell me one ps3 exclusive high def, or sub high def that outsold halo 3 and I'll stop saying the ps3 sucks. deal? okay.

Posted by bam4577 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:44 PM

you guys get all worked up over wich system is better. i just like reading those posts cause guess what there pointless.

Posted by bam4577 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:46 PM

oh yeah thanks Twitchin

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:48 PM

@LM1213
ya ya sad, GTA4 outselling xbox exclusives like halo, gears, mass effect. i multi platform selling so much better than any of your exclusives wow.

the gta series has always has a reputation to have many glitches and freezes. so honestly its no surprise. its happening on both systems as well so its the game itself.

sooo having that said. gta4 is outselling every game of this generation. i really don't see what you have to brag about there.

and for the ps3 being sooo powerful, gta4 is using about 50% of its power while the 360 version is making the xbox 360 cry to its knees in pain.

Posted by Bookshelf - Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:14 PM

i cant believe it though, the first non-exclusive GTA and its all f%cked up. great job Take Two. and Thank You Microsoft.

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:04 PM

bookshelf, I've learned with you, I just gotta let you believe what you want. you wanna think the ps3 is better you go ahead and keep lying to yourself. I mean it's an okay system but it's no 360. you can lie to yourself and bring up all your little points you can think of it doesnt matter. the 360 is just better. it has more system sales better exclusives a way better online system and more peeople who have a 360 know they have the better system but you say all you want buddy. I'll let you believe what you want. I think you need to believe it to sleep better at night anyways

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:06 PM

just one last thing..you said
"and for the ps3 being sooo powerful, gta4 is using about 50% of its power" so the ps3 locks up on 50% of power usage? wow you just helped my point. 50% and its locking up, yeah. you got the better system by far. lol

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:09 PM

to all other ps3 users, dont worry I dont take this idiots as your leader. but yall should tell him to shut up. saying the ps3 runs gta@ 50% power. No I know the ps3 doesnt use that much power and resources to run ONE game. yall should kick his butt he's making up dumb stats all the time that's making the ps3 worse than what it is. it actually not that bad. its not 360 but I know its not as bad as tard there is making it sound

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:12 PM

lol bookshelf is the worse ps3 promoter ever, even sony doesnt acknowledge him.
"ummm..that guy? umm, yeah he's not with us"

Posted by meljr97 - Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:21 PM

for $#@% sakes its a $%&#ing game you got a 360 get it on 360 you got a ps3 get it on ps3 *&$#

Posted by cndgamer - Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:04 PM

all the people who bash "sony" on this forum either works for ms or just bunch of idiots living at home who have no clue what a home media center is and how having one system that serves it all is really important. so grow up, go buy a house and come back and see how x360 is a piece of garbage that are as reliable as a pintos.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 12:16 AM

@LM1213
its not the ps3 locking up, its a flaw in the programming from rockstar. when that bad code is read, it hits an error and halts everything, thus the game locking up. trust me, its not the ps3.

so get your sh%t straight, cause owning 11 ps3 games, and non of them locking up except GTA4, its GTA4. i remember playing motorstorm 24/7 back when i first got my system. I played nothing but that game for 3 months straight and never had a lock up. so my system has no problems running games.

warhawk used to lock up here and there, but ever since the patch, it has never locked up. so yeah, its gta4. not the ps3.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 12:18 AM

@cndgamer
and yeah i agree, the ps3 does makes a great media center system. i use mine to stream music and movies from my pc to my TV. very nice. no more burning movies to DVD =D alot smaller than a media center pc would be.

Posted by xSniper209LHSx - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:23 AM

random thought but i wish gta4 was better than san andreas...if only...gta4 shouldve had a bigger map even if it means lowering the graphics, shouldve kept the swiming under water, keeps the stats like fat-muscly-fatigue and all that, jets, gangs, military bases...gta4 couldve been a lot better...i just wonder if the gta4 dlc for x360 will be a new huge map

Posted by jmecase - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:05 AM

Had the load screen freeze up on me yesterday. Yea, dont do some stupid 12 step program to play the game or even play the game in multiplayer.

1. Log out of PSN.
2. Start the game, if you want to play single player you are golden.
3. If you are looking to play multiplayer, log onto PSN from your in game cell phone.

Have had no loading issues or freezing doing this. Only thing I see that needs to be patched is initially loading up the game while already logged onto PSN.

Posted by Noc_Da_Sniper - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:23 AM

Its amazing how everyone tries to defend their system... I have a ps3 and I love it... my friend has a 360 and his game froze up.... he finally bought a ps3 and has had no problems.. can we stop bashing systems (xbox suxs) and start appreciating the games... (sony rules) I think all this system bashing (which is what you should do to your 360) is so immature.. all your 360 fanboys out their need a real system.. oops.. did I just say that... but seriously even the super n64 I mean the wii had problems at some point... what im trying to say here is sony rules .. microsoft sucks... and thats all I have to say about that...

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:24 AM

lol!!^^

Posted by demby123 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:25 AM

its amazing how much time people like staychisel,sjanthn, or eamadden spend making idiotic statements about a console they dont, and never will own, yet... while doing all this flaming... there 360 and all there "great" games are just sitting there all alone while they mindlessly post on g4. why is it odd to me that people spend more time making there console seem like its the best then actually playing it?

Posted by codemonkeypwnz - Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:27 AM

This has been a FLAME-WAR disaster zone. Please walk around and cover your mouth and nostrils from inhaling the gases. HOW MANY LIVES MUST BE TAKEN TO QUENCH THE FANBOY FURY!?!?!?!?! HAVE YOU NO GUILT??? NO SHAME!?!?!?!?!

Its a bad code in the game and even if it was because of the PS3, remember the 360 has at least a 15% failure rate(last I checked at least). Sony fanboys don't make up stats because it makes you look bad. Xbots stop trying to find a flaw in everything. PS3's one flaw is games, it has lacked games but it may start supplying some rly great games. No i do not own a ps3 or a 360.
So just shut the f@$% up.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Sunday, May 4, 2008 1:39 PM

"i remember playing motorstorm 24/7 back when i first got my system. I played nothing but that game for 3 months straight and never had a lock up."

that's because sony released ps3 w/ NO GAMES! and for $600 no less! (including a soon to be extinct six-axis controller)..

media center? yeah i stream movies and music on my 360 all the time, what's your point?

don't be mad because you don't have your trophy room yet, it'll come soon. then you can bring dudes back to "see your trophies"...yeah..

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:07 PM

@staychisel
um if the ps3 was released with no games then how was i playing Motorstorm... which is a game by the way... I love racing games. oh and there was a $500 ps3 called the 20gb so your "and for $600 no less!" statement is false. Nub!

the media center feature makes more sense on the ps3 because everything is right there on the xross media bar. (ps3 also streams movies and music to my psp as well, so if i have a movie on my pc, it streams from the pc to ps3 then to the psp. pretty cool feature) so yeahh if im at a friends hows, or anyplace with Wi-Fi, i can stream anything thats on my pc.

Posted by pumpkinpunker - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:19 PM

"Its amazing how everyone tries to defend their system... I have a ps3 and I love it... my friend has a 360 and his game froze up.... he finally bought a ps3 and has had no problems.. "

Do you expect us to believe that your friend went out and bought a whole new console and copy of GTA 4 because his GTA 4 froze on his 360?

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:21 PM

@pumpkinpunker
i believe it. the 360's life is pretty much over so might as well go ahead and get a ps3

Posted by pumpkinpunker - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:23 PM

Of course, Rockstar will say it's a problem for both systems. It's their way of covering their asses and not attracting the ire of Sony. Yet, again, Google "GTA 4 Freeze" and you will see almost all PS3 forums & message boards discussing this problem. Not much from the 360 camp. Sure, a few games might be freezing up on the 360 because they're bad discs and/or scratched.

Or maybe their users are just idiots! I knew a guy whose 360 tanked because, get this, he covered up all the vent holes on the console with tape because he didn't want dust getting in. I laughed my ass off when I heard this him tell me this story. Needless to say, his system over-heated. Never underestimate consumer stupidity.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:27 PM

@pumpkinpunker
i remember that story about the tape over the vents, and its kinda hard to believe that, i think you are making that up. about 8 months ago there as an article on someone doing that to their ps3. coincidence? or your a lier.

Posted by pumpkinpunker - Sunday, May 4, 2008 2:31 PM

"@pumpkinpunker
i remember that story about the tape over the vents, and its kinda hard to believe that, i think you are making that up. about 8 months ago there as an article on someone doing that to their ps3. coincidence? or your a lier."

Probably happened a couple times to different systems. People do stupid stuff all the time.

Posted by mcp3 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 4:12 PM

WOW glad I bought GTA IV for 360 and not PS3. What I dont understand is how Rockstargames had a extra 6 MONTHS to work on GTA IV yet it still FKS UP on the PS3.

Posted by CappinCurt - Sunday, May 4, 2008 4:31 PM

Fanboyism is akin to douchebaggery. Most of you are morons of epic proportions.

Posted by demby123 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 4:32 PM

now if only sony would buy out take 2 instead of EA...

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 4:58 PM

@demby123
that would be badass

Posted by blakezilla - Sunday, May 4, 2008 5:08 PM

I guess that is what 50 million $ will buy you. Some bad press for the competition for a week or so.

I am pretty sure that it is both systems getting screwed up by this. But yea my friends 60GB is toasted from a game. My 20GB loaded the second copy of his game and played. I didnt play much because we just wanted to see if it was the game or what.

I think BOO to Rockstar, like someone else said bad Bully, bad bad other GTA's and now bad GTA4...anyone see a trend?

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Sunday, May 4, 2008 5:08 PM

motorstorm was the only game ps3 had for a long time, that's why you had to play it for 3 months straight.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Sunday, May 4, 2008 5:38 PM

50 million buying bad press? you conspiracy nuts make me laugh. compare the official GTA boards on both sony and xbox's website. i just did, major difference in topics, especially technical issues.

denial may be helping some of you, but it's not fooling anyone else, especially the people who are stuck with a ps3 and not being able to play the game.

Posted by blakezilla - Sunday, May 4, 2008 6:31 PM

50 million $ = funny funny, haha not a reason. jack A__

I didnt want to be mean but you xbox folks may be the ones with a real denial issue. at least (not that one time or game is even acceptable for ANY system) it is only 1,,,,ONE,,,UNO,,,,,EIN game that screws the ps3 up. It (the freezing etc) isnt potentially a permanent problem with EVERY other game. You guys keep trying to deny that the RROD is still an issue. Well how new of XBOX do you need? My brothers HALO version already died. All you D BAgs that say it isnt an issue for the new ones with the small chip, if I recall "You are all proud owners since day 1" So I think that that still makes it a pretty relevant issue. You ALL don't have brand new XBoxes!
Yea it is a shame that it happened with one of the biggest games, but it's too late now. Reading all the retarded posts about the ps3 suckling or the xbox sucking is annoying.

I think that in this case it is the game sucking.

Posted by blakezilla - Sunday, May 4, 2008 6:39 PM

Aside from my friends issue w/ his ps3 this seems to be a workable issue, although probably annoying as hell, with most others. Maybe Rockstar shoulda put out a demo, this may have shown up then and could have been prevented.

Or for all the theorists maybe that is why they didnt have a demo!!! OOOHHH cause they knew it had problems and they didn't want to hurt sales. Or maybe MS paid for a patch!!! Is that what you wanted me to say STAYCHISEL? It is pretty far fetched that a company would do crap like that customers, but hey unfortunately money does strange things to people.

That kinda (not exact same thing) thing was already an issue with GH3 and Rockband.

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 7:28 PM

umm..rrod is not an issue anymore. that's so funny since the 360 game out that's all everyone goes back to. meanwhile the ps3 has had this issue, the six axis never worked well so they get rid of it to get rumble which they first lied about and said, we dont think people want it and it wont work with the controller. its old technology, but now the want it? surprise 360 been having it. they want to give you trophies when we had achievment from day one. the issues with the compromise cc info on the ps3, the crappy exclusives. one rrod issues from so long ago that's been handled to multiple ps3 issues and lies. yeah..I would keep spilling that rrod stuff too. my 360 has worked fine. sorry come up with some new stuff all i hear is blah blah blah keep talking about the rrod issue that happened a long time ago, cuz that's all we have

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 7:32 PM

and lets not forget this issue. which i will say okay okay its the game..but there are so many reports about ps3 locking up, but I really dont see xbox reports. but hey it may be the game. but all this rrod everyone brings up is that really ALL you have? cmon man the ps3 is crap. oh yeah all you ps3 people come up with stories saying my ps3 works fine but my brother/friends 360 just broke down. if the 36o is so crappy why do you ps3 owners talk about your friends 360. sounds like all your friends got the 360 and your the only idiot to buy the ps3 man get out denial already its been over just suck it up.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 7:46 PM

@staychisel
you honestly spent your day reading gta4 message boards and forums? do you even own a game console?

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 7:49 PM

@LM1213
RROD IS still a problem. there are 16,000+ 360s out there that do not have the new chipset so ALL of them are still prone to rrod.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 7:52 PM

@LM1213
so yeah what have you got to say now LM1213? the rrod is a system wide problem with 16,000+ systems still running the old chipset. this ps3 locking up problem is just the game. that can easily be patched. haha so get over it.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:05 PM

pwned.

Posted by blakezilla - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:17 PM

thank you bookshelf that was my point exactly.

@lm1213
not all the people out there got new 360s. that in turn means that the RROD is still a problem. Just because new ones dont do it DOES NOT mean that the old ones quit RRODing spontaneously. see there it is so frequent that it can used as a verb.

and my brother had an older 360 that worked just fine when he got the newer Halo version it quit. then he got a ps3 till he got the 360 back. just because you dont know about something doesnt mean that it didnt happen.

the six axis is lame....you may just be upset you dont have the feature...the not having six axis AND rumble was lame. but that was because of a lawsuit.

What about the new wiimote for the XBOX, yea I bet that will be cool though.

just because a gmae crashes doesnt mean a system sucks otherwise the xbox would be totally horrible.

also are you EAMADDEN1244t

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:49 PM

16000 out there that are prone? that's funny mine seems to be one..and it works fine. and you dont have to have a new 360 just not to have it rrod. Mine doesnt have the new chipset and it works fine (pwnd!! lol) okay so the rrod is still a problem? so if there are so many out there and you dont hear about failure rates anymore it must mean that the old ones without the chipset seem to be working okay wouldnt you think..DUH!

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 8:50 PM

cont..
sure make up stuff about your brother and his 360. I think if someone in your family had a 360 you would have a nervous breakdown. you dont ever pwn anyone. your an idiot and your points are stupid and if I was sony I would not let you ever be able to speak on my product cuz you just make it look worse. so that's what I have to say bookshelf. and you say they didnt have rumble cuz of the lawsuit. funny at first they said they thought it was outdated then they want it. you just got lied to was all. and the game crashing isnt even the worse thing. the ps3 sucked without the game crashing

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:00 PM

@LM1213
just because your 360 hasn't rrod'd yet doesn't mean it never will. all systems have the design flaw of having too small of heatsinks. so what if we got lied to about the rumble, we all knew it was a lawsuit but we eventually got it. sixaxis+rumble=pwnage controller. Microsoft at first denied having a RROD problem for the longest time before they finally fessed up to it and started doing something about it (making a new chipset) so yeah i think Microsoft pwned you harder than sony did us. at least we got a rock solid playstation 3 that doesn't melt its own motherboard. (lmao)

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:04 PM

okay..whatever just let all the numbers speak for themselves. more sales for 360. more gta sold on the 360. better exclusive sales ( yeah halo single handedly outsold any ps3 exclusive) thats why more people play cod4 on the 360 or most any other game. sorry more 360 units are out there more gta4 sold on 360 when it has more units sold..then come back. argue with the numbers buddy. come up with all the little arguement you want. but the ps3 is behind the 360 so cry about it all you want. it wont change the fact. and the only reason the ps3 is even selling as much as it did is the blu ray, not cuz the games. man what if the 360 get a blu ray drive? man no one would ever buy a ps3. you better hope rumors are wrong.lol

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:08 PM

yeah my motherboard doesnt melt either. the ps3 is stable but I wouldnt call it rock solid I mean look at the online functionality. oh yeah and my 360 is plenty stable..again never had a problem. you also said just cuz it hasnt rrod doesnt mean it never will? doesnt mean it will either. good point though. wow and all those rrod and it still keeps selling...must be one hell of a system that everyone wants

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:10 PM

and dude get real that sony controller does not pwn. not even close. that controller doesnt pwn it doesnt even r3nt

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:17 PM

@LM1213
dude the online has NOTHING to do with the ps3's hardware being stable. where did that come from? and yeah 360's keep selling because the new systems DONT HAVE THAT PROBLEM jesus christ we just went over that!

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:18 PM

yall knows what really funny? me being a gamer..not a fanboy I dont even really have a big thing about the ps3. I just like stirring you up..lol. i mentioned a long time ago that I would get one eventually. prolly for hotsholf golf and mgs4. but yall are just so easy to stir up I just cant help it. all in all both system are okay. I like all systems, but yall gotta let people stirring you up so easy.

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:20 PM

so if they dont have a rrod than i guess the 360 is perfect now.. thank you, I knew you would come to see that eventually. whew. i thought you would never come around. yall kept saying the rrod issue but now that thats gone I guess there's nothing more to say..whew.! lol..dude you make it toooo easy. cmnon lighten up

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:27 PM

@LM1213
about the bluray 360, would someone really pay $500 for a bluray 360 that only played bluray movies when you could get the $400 ps3 that plays bluray movies better AND plays bluray games?

"me being a gamer..not a fanboy I dont even really have a big thing about the ps3."

are you kidding? anytime i see your name you always flame the ps3. you just dissed on everything ps3 from the system to games to online and the controller.

and for the 360 being perfect... we just talked about this dude... 16,000+ people out there with ... nvm lol aparently you cant remember what you type.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:29 PM

if you we're a real gamer, you would be playing every FPS a pc. first person shooters on consoles are just so... kiddie? i mean aiming with a stick? with built in aim assist? ya thats real hardcore right there.

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:39 PM

umm your choice of systems does not determine you being a gamer or not. the reason I play on a console is the accesability and the fact I dont have to load everything to play. when gaming first took it steps on atari (well first real steps) it had a joystick. wow guess that wasnt real gaming it was on a system. on man and the arcades yeah they had sticks too on a system (although it was an arcade system) so you should get your fact straight. I was prolly playing games before you had your first wet dream. and you have no Idea what games I play. if you were a real gamer maybe you wouldnt be so ignorant to gaming. and speaking of kiddie systems....dont you own a ps3? and the majority of gamers have ps3 or 36o or ps2. so i guess there not real gamers either? Man you say stupid things. of course I always say things about the ps3 cuz it gets your thongs in a bunch..I'm like a puppeteer and your my little marianette

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:42 PM

Part 1

PEOPLE, PEOPLE!!
To anyone who is experiencing freezing issues with either version of GTA: DISCONNECTING FROM THE INTERNET DOES NOT FIX THE ISSUE.

Here's the REAL fix (and yes, I DID try to disconnect the internet which didn't work):

The freezing seems to be coming from the fact that the game is unable to load the game from a quicksave (i.e. an autosave after a completed mission). I had three saves on my harddrive; the most recent was a quicksave, the next oldest was a "proper" save done at the safehouse, and my oldest save file was also a quicksave.

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:43 PM

dance little puppet dance. lol

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:43 PM

Part 2

I deleted the most recent quicksave and then tried having the game load off the most recent "proper" save. Still no luck. HOWEVER: I then restarted the PS3 because Windows logic tells me that you always have to restart your system for major changes to take place.

I restarted the system, restarted GTA IV and boom! It started. Unfortunately, as of yet GTA IV does not seem to work on the Half-Life 2 logic whereby you can load the game from either a quicksave OR a normal, "proper" save.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:45 PM

@LM1213
that was gaming because that was the only thing available back then. but today with modern pc's i mean come on. i use my ps3 for all non fps games. such as motorstorm, GT5p, GTA4 etc... then i use my pc for my fps games cause you have way more precise control of the gun. its nice cause i get all the ps3 excusives plus all the xbox 360 excusives that are on the pc as well, and i'd have to say, Gears plays and looks very nice on my pc. i've been a pc gamer since the dawn of wolf3D and always will be a pc gamer till i die.

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:45 PM

Part 3

You know what else lends credence to my theory? Remember how I mentioned that my first of three saves was a quicksave, and the second was a proper save? When I executed that first "proper" save, I noticed that all the save blocks were empty even though I had already autosaved. I actually had to manually create a save file for the game to register something to load at a future date.
When my PS3 froze up, I assumed that my most recent save file, the quicksave, was simply an empty link that was denying the PS3 access to the previous "proper" save. Deleting the most recent quicksave, restarting the PS3, and then loading a proper save, as long as that proper save is your most recent file SHOULD work, and this way you don't have to cut off your online play options which is half the reason why most of us bought this game to begin with.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:48 PM

@DuffelBagBoy
i actually bypassed deleting my autosaves by reinstalling the game and then manually saving right after the game loaded the autosave. worked for me atleast. ever since then no problems. and before LM1213 says anything, THIS CAN BE PATCHED UNLIKE YOUR RROD XBOX 360!

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:48 PM

bad things for ps3 :-( hope everyone finds a proper fix. I would hate to buy a game I have been waiting for to have such a hard time. check some forums I am sure some other people have come up with some other things

Posted by Aztec23 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:51 PM

Wow I have been playing GTA4 all this week and have not gone to g4tv.Don't know what they are talking about. Works great on me and every friend I know.I got the 60gig ps3 by the way.

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:53 PM

Part 4

Just found out some news from HBKHHH45 at a Gamespot.com forum that sheds some more light on the issue:

The issue that is causing the freezing is actually two separate issues. One is the network problem that the newer PS3's are encountering however the older model, launche units are experiencing an entirely different problem. The launch version of PS3's used a different chip that could run PS2 and PS1 games without emulation. This chip is conflicting with the game code and cause GTA4 to freeze. The T2 representative told me that the fix will indeed not be exclusively in the form of a patch.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:53 PM

@Aztec23
were you able to compplete the "Loggin On" mission?

Posted by LM1213 - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:54 PM

you gotta pay respect to the things have paved the way. if it wasnt for arcade gaming and ataris pc gaming or gaming in general would have never grown..respect. respect. shooters are fine on whatever systems you play them on as long as they are fun to the person playing them. gamers play games. the system doesnt matter. a writer is a writer regardless of wich pen, paper, or format you use. writing a story on a computer is still waiting. a gamer on pc or console is still a gamer...man...dropping some bible on yall.

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:56 PM

@Bookshelf

That's a great idea, I should have thought about simply deleting the game file and then reinstalling. Haha, oh well, I only had to go back a few missions to the point where I choose between Dwayne and Playboy X

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:58 PM

@Bookshelf

That's a great idea, I should have thought about simply deleting the game file and then reinstalling. Haha, oh well, I only had to go back a few missions to the point where I choose between Dwayne and Playboy X

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:00 PM

@LM1213
if it wasn't for PC's, shooters today would not be what they are. pc's paved the way for todays fps's. if not, we would still be playing arcade shooters were you stand in front of the tv and shoot with a plastic gun while the game moves for you.

respect. dreamcast ftw.

Posted by Bookshelf - Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:01 PM

@DuffelBagBoy
lol no prob, if it happends again you know what to do, =D add me up bro. my PSN is Book-shelf

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:21 PM

@Bookshelf

That's a great idea, I should have thought about simply deleting the game file and then reinstalling. Haha, oh well, I only had to go back a few missions to the point where I choose between Dwayne and Playboy X

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:30 PM

@Bookshelf

That's a great idea, I should have thought about simply deleting the game file and then reinstalling. Haha, oh well, I only had to go back a few missions to the point where I choose between Dwayne and Playboy X

Posted by DuffelBagBoy - Sunday, May 4, 2008 11:20 PM

@Bookshelf

That's a great idea, I should have thought about simply deleting the game file and then reinstalling. Haha, oh well, I only had to go back a few missions to the point where I choose between Dwayne and Playboy X

Posted by _tinkertrain_ - Monday, May 5, 2008 12:28 AM

PS3 owners, hope you enjoy your slightly better graphics now

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Monday, May 5, 2008 5:03 AM

i feel sorry for you having to delete your files, i haven't had to delete sh#t!!! you get online yet?

Posted by RgvXavi - Monday, May 5, 2008 7:03 AM

First off whoever said the Wii is KILLING the 360 and PS3 is only HALF right. Yeah, Wii is killing in hardware sales but is dead last in attach rate. What does this mean? It means people are buying the Wii and realizing there aren't that many great games to buy. Of all the consoles the 360 has the highest attach rate because of all the great games already out in store shelves. The ps3 is second only because their library is small (thats putting it nicely) and there are only about 3-4 games that are considered "must haves" by ps3 owners. However, some of those games are multi-platform and, although I am a somewhat satisfied ps3 owner, I still buy any multi-plat game for my 360 (as do many others who own both the ps3 and 360).

Posted by PhreeStylee - Monday, May 5, 2008 7:03 AM

Yo, I smell BS. I think I was the first one to post having issues with GTAIV on the 60gig PS3 on this site. FYI...I have been doing that fix all week long. It does not work. The game freezes even if you make through the cut scene. It will freeze from leaving online or go to set your waypoint. I even traded my PS3 in for another one. Brand New out the box. The game still froze. They dont Care about the quality of the game, just our money.

Posted by RgvXavi - Monday, May 5, 2008 7:05 AM

Back to this GTA IV problem: My cousin and I both bought our copies during launch night: he for the ps3 and I got mine for the 360. next day he calls saying he's having problems with freezing but just keeps restarting his ps3. Well, later on that night he calls back saying not only is his ps3 copy of GTA IV bunk but now the damn disc tray on the ps3 has swallowed his GTA disc. So now he's stuck with a buggy GTA IV and a broken down ps3. My question is: has any other ps3 owner had an issue with the disc tray jamming? I know I have not experienced that but then again I mainly use my ps3 as a second blu-ray player.

Posted by insight2881 - Monday, May 5, 2008 7:36 AM

FLAME EVERYONE FLAME!!!
I'm so glad I didn't get this on PS3!

Posted by PhreeStylee - Monday, May 5, 2008 8:19 AM

Yo, I smell BS. I think I was the first one to post having issues with GTAIV on the 60gig PS3 on this site. FYI...I have been doing that fix all week long. It does not work. The game freezes even if you make through the cut scene. It will freeze from leaving online or go to set your waypoint. I even traded my PS3 in for another one. Brand New out the box. The game still froze. They dont Care about the quality of the game, just our money.

Posted by PhreeStylee - Monday, May 5, 2008 8:32 AM

Yo, I smell BS. I think I was the first one to post having issues with GTAIV on the 60gig PS3 on this site. FYI...I have been doing that fix all week long. It does not work. The game freezes even if you make through the cut scene. It will freeze from leaving online or go to set your waypoint. I even traded my PS3 in for another one. Brand New out the box. The game still froze. They dont Care about the quality of the game, just our money.

Posted by PhreeStylee - Monday, May 5, 2008 8:34 AM

This is what Sony wrote me bac. TAKE2. If you guys dont write me back. I am coming to your Baltimore location with this game and will crazy glue it to your office door.

Rockstar, GTA4's publisher, and SCEA are both aware of a possible issue with the title, and are
currently researching a fix. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. We do not
have any more information about this issue at the present time. We suggest that you check frequently
on the PlayStation Knowledge Center at http://www.us.playstation.com/ support for additional
information as it becomes available.

More BS

Posted by bleahy - Monday, May 5, 2008 9:09 AM

Well this kind of got out of control over the weekend.

Posted by Bookshelf - Monday, May 5, 2008 9:12 AM

@bleahy
lol yeah it did.

Posted by travelmaps - Monday, May 5, 2008 9:48 AM

i would just like to point out that the first response to a legitement PS3 technical support article is a PS3 fanboy screaming at the only guy trying to help PS3 owners.

seriously.

oh and bleahy, that epic fail was hilarious(and yes...i too have a ps3)

Posted by c1001z - Monday, May 5, 2008 10:09 AM

Sony really put too many eggs in their basket when developing this console. Glitch after glich, game delay after game delay....and fanboys still find a way to support/defend it!? I commend their dedication but their intelligance is in doubt. Submit already guys, we wont hold it against you...well a little.

USA USA USA!!!!!

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Monday, May 5, 2008 10:25 AM

@c1001z, yeah they keep getting pwned but come back with more and more excuses.

Posted by Bookshelf - Monday, May 5, 2008 10:38 AM

Its new architecture. give em' a break!

Posted by Ulrichgaming - Monday, May 5, 2008 11:16 AM

R*/take two sucks plain and simple... when's the last time they didn't put out a game with major glitches.... Bully for the PS2 is the only one I can think of.. and it possibly could have had some random glitches... mine didn't.

To those who feel sorry for us PS3 owners:

The way I look at it... all 3 consoles have had problems with software... as for hardware problems...

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Monday, May 5, 2008 11:32 AM

like i said, more and more excuses :D

Posted by B00MR1D3 - Monday, May 5, 2008 12:47 PM

k, after i've read half way through this thread my only conclusion is that staychisel must still be waiting for his 360 down at the shop. heres an easy step.
1. delete the game from your HHD ( not your saved files)
2. turn it back on and enjoy your game.

simple right now lets move to the 360
1. open it and look for a blue chip ( that causes the RROD)
2. buy a new one unless you know how to fix infected chips(like me).
3. put it back on and enjoy your bank account being drained while you play it's awsome games.

Posted by B00MR1D3 - Monday, May 5, 2008 12:52 PM

so why do ppl always fight on who has a better system? does your system give you a life? a girl? a job? or even money? no,sometimes you got to put the controller down and go out and buy a car, unless you already got one. find a stranger with an ugly car and do the same fanboy crap you do only for cars, it's much well rewarding then console wars. the reason is you fight each other while in here u hide like a coward just doing the talk but never the walk.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Monday, May 5, 2008 1:19 PM

hey i can't apologize for the fact that some can't play gta iv. i'd suggest sending any hate-mail directly to rockstar games.

Posted by SilentSniper - Monday, May 5, 2008 1:46 PM

woww that suks, ps3 ppl hav to delete their game saves! My frends havin problems with his game and hes almost 50% done, HAAAAA!!!

Posted by dojita16 - Monday, May 5, 2008 2:33 PM

damn. that was great. between staychisel bookshelf and that other guy i wasn't paying attention to. that was good. the game isn't better on any console. the ps3 guys just got the fix first, and the 360 guys havent gotten it yet. big deal. but whoever that was that was saying that it was an only ps3 problem.. well.. i guess i need a new word besides ignorant because the articles are everywhere about them BOTH having problems, even though on my 60gig ps3 im having a blast, and my 360... well, ill probably have more of a blast from it when it can turn on again. wasnt someone complaining about trophies? really? its gotten to that? the trophies? damn. i mean its kinda nice when i get one playing the 360, but its not a console breaker. stop your bickerng already.

Posted by LM1213 - Tuesday, May 6, 2008 8:52 PM

http://theexplodingbarrel.com/ ?p=183
another review as far as graphics. one thing I dont understand. i mean both versions on ps3 and 360 are comprable. but when all this first started. there were reviews saying the ps3 had better colors and stuff. then they found out its not high def and also the 360 has better colors and what not. but why was that started in the first place? why didnt they just say both system look ABOUT the same. Why did somone come out the gates lying. which kinda made it look worse on ps3. i mean nothing against the ps3 they didnt write the review but people should think about these things before starting fan boy wars

Posted by _metalgearsolid4_ - Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:37 PM

360 sucks, actually i take that back anything by microsoft sucks, I don't see why anybody can dream to put down sony...if they've been in gaming sence the beginning...the playstation=first console to have the concept of disks...Playing live on any console is just a stold idea from Sega Dreamcast being Microsoft is such a corporate pig of a company they can have the best arrangement of it, SO WHAT! Get a Mac if you want to follow any computer company atleast there solid unlike the viruses on windows you love and personal info thats stold by spyware if your not waisting your money on some lame program to deal with it. Blueray has won over Hddvd that Microsoft endorsed and lost on. Majority can say what they want being that of 360 owners and its cool. Those other gamers are put down which isn't really being a community of friends is it...

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