Hey, buddy, do you own a 360? Have you exprienced the dreaded Red Ring of Death? Want to know what causes it? Well, it turns out it could be one of about 40 million different things.
8bitjoystick.com seems to have interviewed an ex-insider from Microsoft who claims the Red Ring of Death could be caused by any number of reasons, most of which would have been caught and corrected if not for the rush to production the system went through when it initially launched. He goes on to say that the failure rate of 360's from launch is somewhere around 30%.
Of course, Microsoft has not released any such numbers on failure rate or on the exact cause of the RROD. What do you guys think? You think this is true or do you think the guy is bunk?
8BitJoystick.com: Inside Source Reveal The Truth About Xbox 360 Red Ring of Death Failures
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Truth Behind RROD?Posted by Jonathan Hunt - Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:34 PM
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i love my ps3. 360 does have more games, but the ones I'm interested in are on ps3 or pc also.
i did have a 360, but it ate it in less than a year so I traded up and never looked back.
Well duh, that's the only reason they're still in the console race atm.
The haters and Sony lovers don't understand that even with those failures the systems has some great exclusives. The games are so much fun it's no surprise that people love the system.
A person buying a PS3 for the first time has some games to play, but a person just now buying a 360 has way more games to play and experiense. Add Xbox Live and there is even more fun to be had. You don't care as much about failures when you have great games.
Tell your friend the PS3 comes with a warranty that is still valid after six weeks.
The 360 crashes or tells me a disc isn't inserted pretty regularly. I've grown used to it, but why should I be happy about it? I accept what I paid money for, but that does not mean I'm satisfied. And for Microsoft, that means one less customer in the future. I can't see myself ever buying a future MS console. I'd be willing to budge on this issue if they had admitted it from the beginning instead of snaking around and hiding from the issue for a year.
I think Microsoft should get some respect considering they lost millions because they repaired the RROD for free, something Sony would never do. They'd just release a new version of the system.
hey no joke HEATH LEDGER died... G4 WTF your supposed to be on top of this... NOT A SLOW NEWS DAY JUST SLOW GETTING THE NEWS...
Well put.
When Microsoft comes out with their next console I WILL NOT buy at launch. I will wait at least 6 to 9 months to make sure the thing is reliable. I might even buy a PS4 instead but it will depend on the number of games.
:D
Ok I was being bad. But there is some truth there.
And for the people that are pointing out that the PS1 and PS2 had disc read errors, at least they gave a new model that was CHEAPER and better, not more expensive or the same price for a product that shouldn't have such problems. And the original Xbox had problems too, some similar to this actually...
And not to mention the fact that the Xbox 360 had WAY more problems than PS1/PS2/PS3 ever had...
I mean there's disc read errors, then scratching of the discs, and The RROD, and the 40 million(+) reasons for it...
I love my 360, but I went out and bought a PS3 while it was off getting repaired.
And for the people that are pointing out that the PS1 and PS2 had disc read errors, at least they gave a new model that was CHEAPER and better, not more expensive or the same price for a product that shouldn't have such problems. And the original Xbox had problems too, some similar to this actually...
And not to mention the fact that the Xbox 360 had WAY more problems than PS1/PS2/PS3 ever had...
I mean there's disc read errors, then scratching of the discs, and The RROD, and the 40 million(+) reasons for it...
FLAME ON!!!
My elite just died yesterday. Bought it for Halo 3, three months ago. Manufactured June 2007. I'm currently waiting for my return box in the mail.
360's hold CD's in place by trapping them between a metal disk and a magnet. Apparently the little disk holding the CD's isn't glued well. When exposed to heat, they detach from the base and stick to the magnet on the ceiling of the Xbox. Any disk you feed into the tray will result in an "Unplayable Disk".
Apparently it happens A LOT. It shows up in the repair FAQ at xbox.com and the customer service rep I spoke to immediatly recognized the problem telling me I wouldn't pay a dime for the repair.
I bought the 360 thinking all the people with malfunctions were idiots, that they probably ran the console encased in glass entertainment centers. I ensured my 360 was properly ventilated so I wouldn't have any problems. Now I'm waiting for my a box.
haha, that sucks man... never had a problem with my PS3 or my PSN
rushed thier system gave you a brick some more than once? ever hear the saying fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me?
my cousin is on his 4th 360 had to pay extra for wifi and pays a monthly fee for live
while my PS3 is still running like a champ
wake up MS is "violating" you lol
For what it's worth, my ps1 had to be played upside down, my ps2's had disc read error, and my original xbox had the old school RROD.
That being said, I treated my 360 like a queen and the btich divorced me. That, my friends, is bullpiss...
So you're saying that 5% of 100 million PS2s is "quite comparable" to 30% of 360s sold.
Let me check my math real quick (30% - 5% = 25%) O.K. done
So a 25% higher failure rate is identical.
Ummm... I'm thinking: Nope
Stay in school, do your homework, listen to your teachers and your parents, and for God sakes pay attention in math class. Your future is in your hands (especially when you're on the internet).
my 360 broke 3x and I dont care as long as I dont have to pay for the repair its all good
The MS fans should quit complaining abut the ps3 fans complaining about the 360. Your system SUX!!! Also the 360 fans need to quit tryin to brag about the 360s line up cuz a lot of their games are on the ps3 as well. Also...
@TheKei
lmao
That's some good advice
MS, Zune=ipod ripoff and MS does not support it 100%. Windows=you get what you paid for because of its glitchy OS. Xbox 360=breaking down left and right, everyone I know has had theirs breakdown. HDDVD add on=regarded as one of the worst HDDVD players by all Electronic Mags.
Microsoft is not a brand name that can equate to quality products. I feel that MS knows thier products are sub-par so they only support their products in a half ass manner.
Sure Sony has its problems but the PS2 are still selling strong with new games comming out for it unlike its competitors that no longer manufacture there consoles (GC,Xbox) nor release any new software for it.
For my money if Sony is so dedicated to their older console and software support (PS1 & 2) I feel that Sony will not back down and will support the PS3 threw thick and thin. Just my Opinion.
It's pretty obvious they rushed the product to market, and I think the defect rate is probably higher than 30%.
Common people, would you go back to any other company if they had a 30% fail rate?
One thing some people seem to be missing is that the new processors do NOT solve the problem. Buying a 360 with a new processor (which is what I did) minimizes the RROD risks, but the fundamental design problems are still there.
But, the 360 has a lot of great games, so what can you do?
One thing some people seem to be missing is that the new processors do NOT solve the problem. Buying a 360 with a new processor (which is what I did) minimizes the RROD risks, but the fundamental design problems are still there.
But, the 360 has a lot of great games, so what can you do?
GO NEXT GEN!!!
UNLESS you've been leaving under rock for a whole year, then you know that YES it is true that the 360 fails 30-33%.
360's happen to be made cheaply, that's why they're not very reliable.
PS3's cost more to make, and are sold for less, that's why they don't fail more than 0.1%.
Fact,
Period.
@ TheKei
actually smartguy81 is correct
30% of 100 = 30, 100*.30= 30
5% of 600= 30 , 600 * .05= 30
30=30
So yes a smaller percentage of a higher number can be comparable to a higher percentage of a smaller number
Perhaps you should study math, or better yet, perhaps take a statistics class. What is 5% of 110 million(didn't they sell more than this)??? How about 5 million. What is 30% of 20 million(rough estimate of installed 360s)??? How about close to 6 million. I know the difference between 30 and 5, however comparing failure rate of installed units must be realized in proportion.